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[hrmjustin]

1. How do you feel about President Obama?

And Congress?

[Frustratedlady]

4. I approve of Obama's job, but just imagine how high his % would be...

if Congress was doing its job. Congress is worse than pathetic, they are beyond tragic for the country and need to be called out every day on what they DIDN'T accomplish the day before and the day before that.

It doesn't matter what Obama does, it's wrong with the Republicans and some of the DUrs. I'd like to see how the naysayers could do any better with the Wall of Shame standing in the way every morning, not to mention the threats to your life hanging over your head. Obama and Michelle are standing proud against those who criticize.

Give them some credit and get out of their way. It has to be like wading thru a swamp, but they are making progress. If you don't think that's true, remember the Bush Years.

[LWolf]

86. Answers for you:

I obviously can't speak for the OP, but for myself...

I am not a fan of Barack Obama and I never have been. My take from the first time I heard him speak, at the '04 Democratic Convention, was that he was a master speaker whose content was, while guaranteed to inspire the masses, vague enough to be open to interpretation, and therefore not trustworthy.

Paying closer attention during the '08 primaries, he and HRC were both at the bottom of my ranked list of candidates. Of course, they were the only candidates left on my ballot when my late primary finally rolled around; they had been for about 5 months.

Why? He was clearly a neo-liberal, which I judge to be unhealthy for the party and the nation. His appointments and policies have borne out that evaluation.

Congress? There are a handful in both branches I can get behind. For the most part, though, they are as bad.

[JaneyVee]

2. Oh no, he may not get re-elected in 2016!

Who cares, he's dealing with the worst most anti American racist anti intellectual obstructionist congress in US history.

[flamingdem]

8. +1

[Scurrilous]

12. Hey Joe...

...where you goin' with that crappy poll in your hand?

[hrmjustin]

22. How do you feel about the president?

[JoePhilly]

27. We laughed like hell when his approval dropped below 30%.

Because he was ensuring that the next President would not be from the GOP.

[karynnj]

33. Good point, but we are nowhere near where Bush was after Katrina

We are now a month and a half before the anniversary of Katrina. By that point, the Bush numbers that had been around 50 percent most of 2004 - down from 60 percent in December 2003, were in the low 40s -- near where Obama is in this one poll. (MAJOR CAVEAT - This could be an outlier.) Even at that point, the one poll that asked the question showed in Spring 2005, that Bush would have lost to Kerry. Now, this was pretty silly - as national numbers can't really show that, but was more telling was that they had to reweight their sample because far too many people said they voted for Kerry than should have happened in a random sample. I take this to be more similar to McGovern's comment on his own race that if everyone who said they voted for him did -- he would have won rather than just a very atypical sample or evidence of massive election fraud.

Most people on DU were not all that interested with the pre-Katrina polling numbers - however after Katrina, the bottom fell out on his numbers. That is when DU did note the polling numbers as often as they came out -- with glee. They went to the low 30s and then below. That DID have consequences. He was no use at all in the 2006 midterms where we took back both Houses of Congress. This was astonishingly good, because NO ONE - even a week before the election predicted we would get 51 in the Senate.

It also had an impact on 2008. Remember the Republican convention - Bush was not really welcome and did not come. From the speeches, you could have thought that McCain was not from the same party. Everyone ran against Bush.

Back to Obama. He is not in that second phase - where the bottom fell out. In spite of everything. I don't think that wil happen. In fact, he should continue to recover as people recognize that most of the faux scandals are just that. I also suspect that one thing pulling down the numbers is that the poll was influenced by the Snowden mess. I think - for all but the left libertarians and the libertarians, this will be corrected by getting out more truth and correcting the exaggerations and making the access require stricter definitions of need.

In addition, there are other potential victories. The economy really seems to continue to recover - in spite of the Republicans' best efforts. ACA costs are below where the Republicans said they would be. Immigration is very likely to pass - giving Obama a victory. Even moderately successful Israel/Palestine negotiations will add to Obama's accomplishments.

There are three points where Obama's approval numbers would matter. 1) Leading into 2014 - which is important as losing the Senate would be devastating - reducing him to stopping bad things with his veto power, but completely limited on anything that needs legislation - meaning his only strengths would be on foreign policy and whatever he can do with executive power. 2) When the Democratic pre primaries start, anyone too linked to him could be hurt if he is polling very badly. Hilary is the rare exception - she can distance herself with Obama and run with what Bill Clinton did. 3) In the 2016 election. This could be tough only if Obama continues to weaken and it is the Democratic version of 2008 - and remember McCain was not a close ally of Bush.

[hrmjustin]

39. If his number was that low it would effect the democrats chances on re-election.

His numbers will not go there.

[karynnj]

63. I think it could

At the very least, it would mean that he would not be much help - which is a loss. It also means that the convention would possibly not have him as speaker - like 2008 did not have Bush.

It also would likely mean that many people would be voting for change - and it hard to see how a Democrat manages to be change. (here, I can't say Clinton would be different.)

However, I really do not think Obama will be at 30.

[OilemFirchen]

74. It's safe to say

that if this or any other poll shows Obama at 100% approval, he still will fail to be re-elected.

How does that make you feel?

[hrmjustin]

75. Be careful you might be called McCarthy for asking like I was.

[OilemFirchen]

79. Worse, I think.

It's bad enough asking questions around this joint. I made a proclamation. Pretty sure that elevates me to Stalinesque.

[hrmjustin]

80. LOL you evildoer!

[JaneyVee]

44. Bush had a 28% approval rating after having a 91% approval rating.

And deserved every bit of his terrible poll numbers.

[AgingAmerican]

20. Agree

He no longer has any reason/excuse to make crappy deals with the right.

[ProSense]

24. The trendline is not even that impressive

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/07/22/197361/poll-obamas-job-approval-plunges.html

[BlueStreak]

3. It has very little to do with the economy

It has to do with being firmly on the wrong side of a great many issues important to the people who used to support him.

Torturing prisoners at Gitmo
Instantly capitulating to the GOP on the IRS thing.
The whole NSA affair
and so on.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. The average American

doesn't even know what the fuck "Gitmo" means, let alone the fact that it is in Cuba.

They are tired of the bullshit coming out of Washington in general and the whole kitinkaboodle gets slimed by it.

[BlueStreak]

6. The 8 percent who have moved away from Obama do understand Gitmo.

And nearly 100% of Americans know backbone when they see it (or when they don't). They may not keep up on the issues, but Americans (and humans in general, I assume) have a very good sense of when a person is acting on principle and conviction. People did not mostly agree with Reagan's policies, but "dammit, he was so confident that we really should support him. He must know what he is doing."

Obama's numbers are over 50% when he is seen as going toe to toe with Republicans on issues he cares deeply about. He hasn't done a bit of that recently, arguably for a couple of years. (Maybe a little of that showed at Sequester time, but mostly that was the usual capitulation.)

Now he won't even fight to get department heads confirmed, let alone key Judicial appointments.

[BumRushDaShow]

19. Single issues

don't make the world go around.... and day after day battling unprecedented obstruction, disrespect, and media hysteria, with keyboard warriors doing little or nothing to make change happen in their own communities, means an extrememly high noise level that blocks out the signal of where we were versus where we are now.

When the dust settles, history will eventually show the signal.

[AgingAmerican]

21. Death by 1000 cuts does, however

nt

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Hyperbole much? nt

[AgingAmerican]

32. No

nt

[BumRushDaShow]

48. Indeed yes. nt

[AgingAmerican]

52. It's the pattern of

'center right'. No exaggerations necessary.

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Yourself? nt

[AgingAmerican]

64. I know you are....

[BumRushDaShow]

94. Sorry wrong answer. nt

[BlueStreak]

42. Exactly -- well many issues, anyway.

I listed 3 issues, not a "single issue". And I think we could identify a dozen more that are all part of a very disturbing pattern. The upshot is that I can barely recognize the guy that was giving all hose progressive-sounding speeches during his two campaigns.

Maybe I am naive, but like millions of others, I held back criticism during his first term because we all know the lesser of evils argument. We all knew that it was very important to not have the GOP back in the White House in 2013. I was moderate in my criticism when he seemed to miss opportunity after opportunity to be a strong progressive leader. His strongest supporters said, "He's playing 9-dimensional chess. He is practicing jiu jitsu on the Republicans. He can't take them on directly because he'll come across as 'angry black man'. Just wait and see. He's got this thing."

So I reasonably expected that after we got him reelected, he would be free to show more leadership.

What we have seen instead is the incredible disappearing man, and worse than that, it seems he has disappeared into the right wing bubble.

Maybe this is who he was all the time and I just wanted to see something different. But I think I am a little more worldly than that. I think I was conned.

[AgingAmerican]

47. And...

The 'wait and see' that we got from the core supporters degenerated into attacks on the left after that progressive leadership did not materialize.

[matthews]

55. So the font of all wisdom lies here on DU? The rest of the country is

a bunch of morons without opinions on what is taking place in this country?

The biggest worry Democrats have right now is that people DO KNOW what's going on. Especially young people who are really really disgusted to wake up one day and find that the government that they trusted is scarfing up information on everything that they do.

I have a 20-year old son, so I hear it! And their disgust for the lack of support for the Occupy movement reminds me of what I felt about the older generation and the Republican party during Viet Nam war.

[BlueStreak]

73. This is the thing that bothers me the most. We could be losing the generation we must win

The hope for the future was the number of people in their 20s and early 30s that entered the process the last two election cycles. I had a feeling they were more politically aware -- not unlike the youth of the 60s and early 70s. IMHO, that is the only thing that can keep this country from sliding entirely into a fascist state where the aristocrats / corporations own nearly everything.

We were winning those generations -- and then this happens.

I fear many of those younger people are having a very difficult time seeing any real difference between where Obama is leading and where the Republicans would take us. And if we don't win those generations decisively, it really is all over for at least another 20 years.

[matthews]

92. Even a couple of the girls that I include in the ditz category

have joined in on conversations about this stuff.

Floored me that they actually knew what the hell was going on. I didn't think one of them ever had a thought deeper than what color of polish would best match her outfit. I know that's mean but if you met Lizzie...

[byeya]

28. + + + You could add his poor environmental record and failing to prosecute very public crimes.

[exboyfil]

34. The spying/NSA has really bothered me

The other thing was how the ACA was structured based on a minimum number of hours. It should have been recognized that such an approach would lead to what is happening now (forcing hours down to avoid paying for the benefit). It should had been structured as $s/hr.

Still no matter what President Obama is infinitely better than the alternative (who may have been the worst major party candidate of the second half of the 20th century).

[PennsylvaniaMatt]

7. Yet Gallup and Rasmussen...

Have his approval at 48%...and ABC/Washington Post has it at 49%.

I have no doubt that his approval has taken somewhat of a dip, but I have a feeling that this poll is an outlier.

I think if he gets out front in center more, speaking on the issues, and holding a press conference, that may help.

[leftynyc]

26. You seem very invested

in this poll....care to share with us why that would be?

[JoePhilly]

29. 49% is part of a bad trend ... bwahahahahahahaha.

[JoePhilly]

81. I'm laughing at the (ahem) "depth" of your statistical analysis.

The fact that one number is smaller than another does not necessarily make the smaller number ... a SMALL number.

Obama's approval went UP around the election when he kicked Romney's ass, and now, as usually happens after an election, its come down a couple points.

49% is a perfectly fine approval rating even if it is lower than some higher point over the last year. And approval rate of 49% is also HIGHER than the low point that was reached about 2 years ago.

Its like claiming that if the stock market hits a 52 week LOW, that the DOW is itself, low, or even crashing.

I'm guessing that the folks who are all excited about these numbers are the same folks who were sure the polls were wrong and Romney was way ahead in the 2012 election race.

They are also probably not wanting to think about the fact that the GOP's approval (and the party itself) are circling the bowl.

[YoungDemCA]

9. 30 + years of the delibarate destruction of the public sector has "worked" I see...

And both parties are complicit in that, I might add.

[uponit7771]

11. Why is the outlier highlighted in this post? RCP avg is higher without both outliers

[cthulu2016]

13. Because it is a McClatchy article about the McClatchy/Marist poll

[LordGlenconner]

14. I sure hope the numbers improve before his re-election campaign

[JoePhilly]

87. lol!

[RandiFan1290]

16. Welcome Back!

[JoePhilly]

30. +1

[GlashFordan]

17. Its pretty simple

The economy is a failure. The ONLY reason we're not in a depression is massive fed pumping. Your 401k is back up? Thank Fed pumping. Is the stock market up because business is booming at publicly held companies? No!! Because we're in a housing boom? No!!! Houses are selling now to investors to rent, not because Joe six pack can afford to buy their first home.

The damage done in the last 12-14 years will take decades to really fix. Clinton made a couple bad decisions in the late 90's, shrub wrecked the economy after 9-11 and Obama has doubled down on every bad Shrub mistake.

[Scurrilous]

23. Yes..

...the sky is falling.

[hrmjustin]

43. So your not an Obama fan?

[Andy823]

49. They won't answer

I think some people are way to obvious about how they feel, and post like this OP pretty much show that we do have a troll problem on DU!

[hrmjustin]

50. He talked to me last night for awhile so I have hope he will respond.

The Author of the post is a clear troll.

[LWolf]

83. I'll answer.

I'm not an Obama fan. I never have been. I listened carefully in '08; for substance, rather than "inspiration."

I knew he was a neo-liberal. As a matter of fact here on DU, during the horrifically ugly and embarrassing primary wars, one of HRC's supporters, a self-identified DLCer, was "laughing" at the idea that Obama was the "not dlc" candidate. While he was campaigning for HRC, he pointed out that Obama's positions were also well aligned, and that he'd be happy with him as well.

Nobody was listening.

I've been "out" with my take on Obama since the '08 primaries. It's never been a secret.

I'm a Democrat. A leftist Democrat who doesn't support "centrist"/dlc/"new" dem/3rd way politics or politicians, regardless of the party they claim. It made me "unpopular" at DU for a few years, when all that hope for positive change was in the air. Hope I didn't have.

Are you suggesting that I'm a troll?

Do tell.

Edited to add: with the exception of a small handful from both branches, I don't like Congress much better.

[GlashFordan]

51. I am a fan of PBO

When he makes good decisions like sound SCOTUS picks and bravely changing his mind on DOMA and gay marriage. But ACA is a Heritage Foundation hatched blowjob to insurance companies, the war budget is high, he's sticking his nose in countries where we don't belong, every speech is guaranteed to be filled with 2.3 Me's, I's and We's per minute, he's taken NSA spying and expanded it so that the author of the Patriot Act claims it's illegal and unprecedented and practices extrajudicial killings and isn't afraid to shed innocent brown skin blood to kill a bad guy or two.

So what can I say good about PBO?
His family is lovely. He's better than Shrub.

Oh and in about 1280 days Hillary and Bill will begin to FIX this country.

[hrmjustin]

53. Thank you for answering.

I am a Hillary fan myself. I love President Obama and most of his policies. There have been some disappointments but I still love the guy.

[tridim]

54. Cool story glash!!!1

[GlashFordan]

59. You're getting grass stains on your back

Trudim

[tridim]

61. That's fantastic glash!!!!1

[Scurrilous]

62. I picture you saying that in Stewie's voice.

[OilemFirchen]

76. "Every speech is guaranteed to be filled with 2.3 Me's, I's and We's per minute"

Now that doesn't sound like a wingnut comment at all.

[kelly1mm]

84. results of alert:

At Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:23 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I am a fan of PBO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3322067

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ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

"every speech is guaranteed to be filled with 2.3 Me's, I's and We's per minute" Yeah he really sounds like a supporter of the president. This poster has been posting negative posts about the president all day. Yes members do that all the time but when a new person does this it is a sign they do not belong here.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Jul 23, 2013, 04:30 PM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: No explanation given
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[OilemFirchen]

88. I've said it before.

I'm often amazed but, these days, seldom surprised.

[GlashFordan]

89. Me too

I'm often amazed by the understanding and tolerance of people just about the time I start to think humanity sucks.

[Zoeisright]

69. What a bunch of bullshit.

Are you really that ignorant, or just fond of posting right wing lies?

http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

Read that, if you can, and learn something sparky.

And take a look at this:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthepoliticalcarnival.net%2Ftag%2Fbikini-graph%2F&ei=3tzuUefUCuPHiwLXqoC4CQ&usg=AFQjCNGORnR4krNrYNjvO9I1LtZIh827dQ&sig2=AP8CfEirhTUH0AICKjLabA&bvm=bv.49641647,d.cGE

and then see if you can repeat the lie that "PRESIDENT Obama has doubled down on every bad Shrub mistake."

Christ on a crutch, the stupid.

[Motown_Johnny]

96. The economy is a failure?

Seriously?


And Obama has doubled down on Shrub's mistakes? Like deregulation and lower taxes for the wealthy? How about trying to privatize Social Security?

What exactly do you think Obama has doubled down on?






Keep in mind that I live in a major city that declared Bankruptcy less than a week ago and even I don't think the economy is a failure.

[dmosh42]

18. Obama has become a picture of a passive president to the public.....

Although he can't do much about legislation, he must realize how the Republicans treat him with little respect. I doubt a Harry Truman would stand still for the filibustering and blocking of House votes on job bills, etc. I think the Repukes would have gotten an earful and the public would be aware of what's happening. And I don't think the crew in the Senate is helping much because they don't want to break traditions and reform the filibuster rules while the public suffers.

[byeya]

31. Harry Truman would not abide the Repubs' obstructionism. He'd have reporters come into his office

every day and give them the specifics, in no uncertain terms, of the perfidy.

[leftstreet]

38. He took the helm at time the US needed a skilled, effective CEO

Obama can't generate investment, can't infuse confidence, etc

He really wasn't up to the job

[tridim]

56. And leftstreet calls for a "CEO Pretzeldent"!!!1

LMFAO!

[Bradical79]

40. Looks like oppourtunity for progressives

If people are unhappy with the right wing and the centrists...

[reformist2]

41. His approval numbers are reflecting Americans' disappointment that he's a do-nothing prez.

Rightly or wrongly, it's starting to look like he's giving up on the big issues. Claiming that everything will be blocked by Congress is no excuse - we elect politicians to go out there and fight!

[JaneyVee]

45. LOL. Rasmussen has him at 48% WaPo at 49%.

[hrmjustin]

65. You seem to be upset that his poll numbers are as high as they are. Are you?

[hrmjustin]

67. What is your opinion of Obama? Did you vote for him?

[hrmjustin]

70. Yes he is super awesome. I am not in favor of what the NSA is doing but I still love the man.

[woo me with science]

71. People's votes are none of your business.

You are all over this thread trying to play McCarthy. Why is that?

I will tell you my opinion of Obama. I think it is one of the greatest tragedies in recent history that he took a sweeping mandate to take this country back from the plutocrats who are raping it, and pissed it away to please his corporate masters.

The record does not show a President who has been working hard for the poor and middle class but was obstructed at every turn. The record shows aggressive, *proactive* advancement of a predatory corporate agenda, in every single policy area important to the one percent

That's called betrayal.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3152360

Corporate and bank-cozy appointments, over and over again, including major appointments like:

A serial defender of corrupt bankers for the SEC; the architect of "Kill Lists" and supporter of torture, drone wars, and telecom immunity for the CIA; and a Monsanto VP who has lied and been involved in extremely disturbing claims regarding food safety for the FDA. An Attorney General who has not prosecuted a single large bank but wages war against medical marijuana users and *for* strip searches and warrantless surveillance of Americans. Tim Geithner. And now Penny Pritzker.

Bailouts and settlements for corrupt banks (with personal pressure from Obama to attorneys general to approve them),
Refusal by Obama's DOJ to prosecute even huge, egregious examples of bank fraud (i.e, HSBC)
signing NDAA to allow indefinite detention,
"Kill lists" and claiming of the right to assassinate even American citizens without trial
Expansion of wars into several new countries
A renewed public advocacy for the concept of preemptive war
Drone campaigns in multiple countries with whom we are not at war
Proliferation of military drones in our skies
Federal targeting of Occupy for surveillance and militarized response to peaceful protesters
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for warrantless surveillance
Fighting all the way to the Supreme Court for strip searches for any arrestee
Supporting and signing Internet-censoring and privacy-violating measures like ACTA
Support for corporate groping and naked scanning of Americans seeking to travel
A new, massive spy center for warrantless access to Americans' phone calls, emails, and internet use
Support of legal immunity for telecoms/warrantless wiretapping
Support of legislation to legalize massive surveillance of Americans
Militarized police departments, through federal grants
Marijuana users and medical marijuana clinics under assault,
Skyrocketing of the budget for prisons.
Failing to veto a bipartisan vote in Congress to gut more financial regulations.
Passionate speeches and press conferences promoting austerity for Americans
Bush tax cuts extended for billionaires, them much of it made permanent
Support for the payroll tax holiday, tying SS to the general fund
Support for the vicious chained CPI cut in Social Security and benefits for the disabled
Social security, Medicare, and Medicaid offered up as bargaining chips in budget negotiations, with No mention of cutting corporate welfare or the military budget
Advocacy of multiple new free trade agreements, including The Trans-Pacific, otherwise known as "NAFTA on steroids."
Support of drilling, pipelines, and selling off portions of the Gulf of Mexico
Corporate education policy including high stakes corporate testing and closures of public schools
Entrenchment of exorbitant for-profit health insurance companies into healthcare, through mandate
Legal assault on union rights of hundreds of thousands of federal workers
New policies of targeting children and first responders in drone campaigns,
New policies of awarding medals for remote drone attacks,
Appointment of private prison executive to head the US Marshal's office
Massive escalation of federal contracts for private prisons under US Marshall's Office

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x380450

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/101620852

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/101655620

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/101654919

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022355307

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x2185303

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http://www.democraticunderground.com/101748688

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Half a billion dollars for drones to spy on Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021876414

From Bradley Manning to Aaron Swartz -- The Government's Inhumane Persecution of Brave Truth Tellers
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276941

The sight of Army helicopters and the sound of gunfire...on Houston's south side
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022276742

Kiriakou and Stuxnet: the danger of the still-escalating Obama whistleblower war
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275570

Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Property?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022237059

Social Media and the Stasi
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021888029

Homeland Security Wants to More Than Double Its Predator Drone Fleet Inside the US, Despite Safety/Privacy Invasions
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014312823

CIA Behind Bizarre Censorship Incident At Alleged 9/11 Plotters’ Gitmo Trial
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022280285

“I Am Wearing My Conviction As A Badge Of Honor.”
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022275128

Meet the Contractors Turning America's Police Into a Paramilitary Force
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12525281

How Secrecy Corrodes Democracy
http://election.democraticunderground.com/101655009

Obama Quietly Issues Ruling Saying It's Legal For The FBI To Break The Law
http://election.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7545687

US Pulls Plug on Iran Cable News (Press TV)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014394770

DHS Watchdog OKs 'Suspicionless' Seizure of Electronic Devices Along Border
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022339091

[hrmjustin]

72. I was curious.

Thanks for the insult.

[JoePhilly]

82. Wow ... there are an awful lot of blue links in there.

I thought that was frowned upon.

[DemocratsForProgress]

90. Don't be silly.

If the links reflect badly on the President, then they're all the rage.

Careful. If you keep up that snark, he'll accuse you of spreading insidious authoritarian propaganda for the totalitarian corporate state. He'll then insinuate that someone in said state gives enough of a damn what gets said on a message board that they're actually paying you to catapult the propaganda. Then he'll disinter the remains of Eric Blair and make them dance a little jig, until he loses interest and declares himself chilled. And in the Obama economy, the poor guy can't even afford a sweater for all those chills.

[FSogol]

77. Were you here then?

[JoePhilly]

85. Rasmussen won't shift its model back to favoring the GOP

until about 9 months out from the election.

They'll be more accurate this far out because polls now are irrelevant and doing so will help improve their long term average.

But about 9 months out they'll skew the model and exaggerate positives for the GOP, and then they'll move back towards an honest model right before the election.

They know when to try and use their poll to try and influence opinion rather than measure it. And now isn't the right time for that.

[Dawson Leery]

97. Gallup has Obama +6 for approval.

[Safetykitten]

46. Oh, obviously this is an error or just a mistake...

Why would his numbers go down? I mean the economy is BOOMING!

[Cali_Democrat]

58. Welcome to the new DU

You're gonna fit right in.

[FSogol]

78. You forgot the word, "back" after welcome.

[Motown_Johnny]

91. McClatchy 11/29/2012 "Obama, Romney tied"

http://blogs.mcclatchydc.com/washington/2012/10/obama-romney-tied-in-new-national-poll.html

[Scurrilous]

93. Thanks.

"Just because they blew that one doesn't mean today's poll is wrong!!1!"

[Motown_Johnny]

95. It sure doesn't mean it is right either...