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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCorrect me if I've missed something about Anthony Wiener...
1) he did something inappropriate
2) he lied about it
3) he was found to be lying about it
4) he Sid he was sorry and that it wouldn't happen again
5) it happened again
Does that pretty much cover it?
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)6) ultimately it was never anyone's business anyway.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)or maybe you forgot that part.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Fail to see the long range precedent.
What if someday some random senator had an open marriage with his wife? Open in the sense that, just between them, there was an understanding that this kind of behavior was permissible? It was something personal they wanted to keep just between themselves and whatever third party that was recruited to engage in the behavior?
Now do you see the silliness in making someone's personal life a political issue? Huma has said she forgives him. That should be enough. Unless we the public want to play the role of his wife in his private life?
Little Star
(17,055 posts)nasty ass sexting pictures of his junk. What about their rights?
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)8.) He let the left stake their credibility on defending him
9.) He helped Breitbart score a victory and a comeback after the Sherrod fiasco
Little Star
(17,055 posts)Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)you know, a crime, and if he filed a report with police or capitol police is you know, a crime
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Anthony Weiner has shown incredibly poor judgment not only by sexting with numerous individuals (something sure to come out--not a private affair), many of whom were not consenting, but by doing so even after he was caught and forced to resign.
And he has been untruthful on numerous occasions with respect to said activities.
It's not about the sex: it's about how voters need to judge the wisdom and rectitude of the people they are asked to vote for. He flunks the judgment and honesty tests, which should make anyone who would vote for him to lead one of the world's premiere cities ... well ... nuts.
Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)and what kind of precedent does condemning Anthony Weiner set?
What if a random senator had an open marriage with his wife? Open in the sense that, just between them, there was an understanding that this kind of behavior was permissible? It was something personal they wanted to keep just between themselves and whatever third party that was recruited to engage in the behavior? And then some third party leaked it without their permission?
Now do you see the silliness in making someone's personal life a political issue? When is someone's personal life their own that they don't have to answer questions about it? I don't challenge the accusations of lying. I challenge the presumption of even asking and calling forth someone to answer and attest for their personal, non-criminal activity. This is setting a very bad precedent. You have no clue why someone would want to keep something private by lying about. I'm so tired of people using sex to corner people in lies and then saying "It's not about sex, it's about lying!" Nonsense! I challenge the entire premise of making it an issue at all! These are Ken Starr tactics.
It's nobody's business. If you don't want to vote for someone based purely on their non-criminal personal life, I would say that's ridiculous because where does it end? But it's your vote.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Furthermore, when you are a public figure entrusted with the public's interest, the personal rules that pertain to individuals are no longer relevant. If this were merely a consensual "affair" it would be one thing, and not particularly of interest to anyone. But it was not; it was worse ... because it involved an abuse of power. Some of the women who received pictures and texts did not consent to it. Many were young and looked up to this person of power. This is not a victimless act.
I frankly don't care WHAT his wife permitted him to do or accepted. That is of no interest to me as a voter. As a voter I want to know that the person I elect as mayor has common sense (sending pictures of your penis to strangers in no way constitutes common sense), self-control (sending penis pictures even after you have been caught and publicly humiliated shows crazy lack of self-control), and integrity (out and out lying to the public, repeatedly, displays a lack of integrity).
This has nothing to do with Anthony Weiner's marriage. His wife is welcome to forgive him as much as she wants, and let him continue to sext with strangers. But the voters have a different set of issues to consider. As a voter, I wouldn't trust him to make good decisions or be honest with the citizens.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)My hesitation I think stemmed from a concern of witch hunts. If you ask someone something private enough, you probably can get anyone to lie.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I s'pose a lot of people believe that a person's character and integrity may be compartmentalized.
Orrex
(67,080 posts)jollyreaper2112
(1,941 posts)I have no problem if he and the wife swing and if she finds it hot for him to chat up other women. If they are game, if he's not abusing his position, if it's consensual, so what?
But he got caught and lied repeatedly and is still lying. Sex isn't his problem, I think it's a symptom.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Aren't teenagers constantly being warned about the hazards of sexting and such, especially to strangers?
The guy's begging to be hit with a blackmail threat the way he's going at this point esp. if he does get elected into office.
SharonAnn
(14,171 posts)BootinUp
(51,272 posts)He has the audacity to run for office
His wife supports him
He made sure there were more pictures out there after he said there probably were. lol.
WovenGems
(776 posts)How on Earth could you have missed something about Wiener when he has Twittered every part of himself.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Funny story all around. One of those point at and giggle at the stupidity.
vaberella
(24,634 posts)So many turn public office into a joke---because they're personal life is a hot mess. I want more from my politicians. He's not worth while.
Orrex
(67,080 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)HipChick
(25,612 posts)The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)Easy way to keep folks in line and keep the cash coming.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Interesting.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)saying that with the power they have I could, at some point, see them doing something like that.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Orrex
(67,080 posts)The NSA has nothing to do with it, for once.
Boom Sound 416
(4,185 posts)markpkessinger
(8,908 posts)That tends to explain a lot.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)... had a good conversation with Jesus about it, cried publicly, and told us that his wife and Jesus forgave him.
See how that works? IOKIYAR
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)people do something of a sexual nature and lie about it. I don't care what they do with their private parts or that they lie about what they do with their private parts. People keep saying you can't trust someone who does that and then lies about it. You can't trust someone who doesn't do those kinds of things either. Since when did lying about your sex life become the disqualifier of trustworthiness. I don't trust Obama anymore and from what I can tell he has a pretty clean record as far as his sex life and whether or not he has told the truth about his sex life.
cali
(114,904 posts)he has neither. A chief executive needs both.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Can't believe I ever fell for the "My Twitter was hacked" bullshit.
At least Andrew Breitbart is dead. That's a positive.
MFM008
(20,042 posts)and bad judgement, compulsiveness, not sex. I however am not a NYC voter. Hes a sad little man.
kentuck
(115,393 posts)I did not vote for him. He was a loud voice for the left when he was in Congress. He screwed up. We owe him nothing. The least we could expect from him is honesty. We didn't get it.
Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)who puts up with his anti-Palestenian tirades (she is an Arab American) and him sending dick pics to college women.
Iggo
(49,912 posts)(Adds "Wiener" to trash list)
FSogol
(47,609 posts)"I've been bad and I am sooooooo sorry."