White House, GOP Push Against Amendment Limiting NSA Powers - LATimes

[WillyT]

White House, GOP push against amendment limiting NSA powers
By Ken Dilanian
July 24, 2013, 9:18 a.m.

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WASHINGTON -- The Obama Administration has joined with GOP leaders in a furious lobbying effort against a measure up for a vote late Wednesday in the House of Representatives that would curtail the National Security Agency’s bulk collection of U.S. calling records revealed last month by Edward Snowden.

The House is expected to vote this evening on an amendment by Rep. Justin Amash, (R-Michigan), a libertarian Republican who has enlisted some liberal Democrats to his cause—that would require the government to identify a person under investigation before it is able to collect records of calls made to and from that person and his associates. Currently, the government obtains orders from a secret intelligence court requiring telecommunications providers to turn over to the NSA calling records on nearly every American.

Officials say they need all the records to be able to identify U.S. residents unknown to the intelligence community who may be working with foreign terrorists.

The Amash bill would also apply to other bulk collection of U.S. business records under the Patriot Act, though it’s not clear what other records, if any, are being collected in bulk. Amash and his allies argue bulk collection violates the U.S. Constitution, with little evidence it has made Americans safer.

“When's the last time a president put out an emergency statement against an amendment?” he tweeted early Wednesday morning. “The Washington elites fear liberty. They fear you.”

Amash was referring to a statement issued Wednesday night by White House spokesman Jay Carney, who said: “This blunt approach is not the product of an informed, open, or deliberative process. We urge the House to reject the Amash Amendment, and instead move forward with an approach that appropriately takes into account the need for a reasoned review of what tools can best secure the nation.”

James Clapper, the director of national intelligence, and Gen. Keith Alexander, who heads the NSA, met with lawmakers Tuesday to argue against the Amash proposal. House speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)and Mike Rogers (R-Michigan), who chairs the intelligence committee, also oppose the amendment...

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More: http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-white-house-gop-nsa-amendment-20130724,0,5991381.story

[MotherPetrie]

1. Like attracts like

[WillyT]

3. Yeah... Funny Time To Find Bi-Partisanship...

No?

[MotherPetrie]

7. Yeah, it's not the first time the Obama administration has tried to give the GOP what it wants (at

the expense of the rest of us), but usually it's a vain effort on Obama's part. For this Obama administration effort to "take" with the GOP, it has to suck elephant balls.

[CincyDem]

2. Does it bother anyone else that...

...in 5.5 years, this is the issue that the White House and Rethugs decide to collaborate on.

[WillyT]

4. Why Yes... Yes It Does...

[MineralMan]

5. I imagine this amendment will get few votes from either side.

I'll be interested to see who votes for the amendment. We can all discuss the list tomorrow.

I certainly don't expect it to pass, though.

[zipplewrath]

8. It will be interesting who Obama's friends are

I certainly don't expect it to pass either. But it will be interesting to see who votes how.

But what I really find interesting is that it doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell in the Senate, and yet Obama's goin' nuts. I really do wonder what's up with that?

[Mojorabbit]

13. It was a very close vote. nt

[bunnies]

9. Gross. nt

[ohheckyeah]

10. K&R

I wonder if the vote will be televised on CSPAN.

[WillyT]

11. Kick !!!

[Savannahmann]

12. Sickening

If we ever needed more proof that Washington Democrats are no different than the Rethugs we hear them railing against, then I can't imagine what proof would satisfy those deniers.

[bigwillq]

14. Like two peas in a pod

that GOP and White House.