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In a letter released this afternoon, Weiner apologized but also seemed to shift blame for his pervy behavior to his marriage to former State Department aide Human Abedin.
Sending these embarrassing messages to women online, whom I never met, was a personal failing that was hurtful to my wife and a part of my life that Huma and I have put behind us, he wrote.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/better_start_shaking_hands_weiner_dR1040FqZByiYROuMuGrwM
Blaming your wife for your creepy ass compulsion is just despicable, disgusting behavior.
Beat it Anthony.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)Give the guy a break...hes got a problem but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be a great mayor.
Vitter had sex with a hooker
Spitzer had sex with a hooker
Sanford had sex with someone not his wife.
Weiner sent pictures.
A little balance??
yardwork
(69,360 posts)He certainly seems to have some anger against his wife. That isn't doing his recovery from his apparent sex addiction any good at all. Based on his comment, I'd guess that he is still sexting and will get caught again.
He should drop out and let another Democrat win.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)His wife stands with him.... if she can, I can.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)And this type of behavior is not conducive to public office.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)from both of them for their child. yeesh!
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)look at your fucking avatar.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Kali
(56,829 posts)I am not commenting on this issue, but that was a hell of a ZING!
opiate69
(10,129 posts)RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)oh the irony.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)personally, I don't think new york needs this to continue through his mayoralty if he's elected. I am tired of men being pricks to women. This man is a prick. He needs help.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)meet or know. I'm also sick and tired of throwing liberal public servants on the trash heap in order to fulfill the revenge fantasies of a bunch of self-righteous kooks and busybodies.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)Or is that different?
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Anthony Weiner never campaigned on a platform of "family values". As long as you're not a hypocrite, and the actions are consensual and legal, then I don't give a fuck what you do.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)population which he sees as worthy of getting pictures of his dick and bullshit comparisons of his wife's genitalia etc don't bother you.
My problem isn't the moral stuff SO MUCH. I still think he's a shit for doing this and it draws a line about a fundamental contempt not just for himself but for 51 percent of the population .. .female... who haven't exactly been having a good time with men in power lately. I think he's nuts and his judgment can't be trusted. He's either a colossal dick for doing this AGAIN after the last time or a sick man. Neither version needs to be mayor of our largest city.
I personally think he is like them. I think you can't be pissed at one group on technicalities and let another sexual douche bag get off. He continued and mocked his wife. That is sick, completely disgusting about women and as a woman who has had a couple of years of men telling us we are shit, I'm not willing to give him a pass. He's either the stupidest meanest fucker alive or a sick man.
It appears that we shall disagree on this point which is fine. I don't intend to make a point of making my point 'win'. I am of the generation that saw better men in office. I am unwilling to swing this low and give him a pass when he didn't take the last one. Dumb ass guy.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)The guy's a hypocrite just in light of his prior apology for his past behavior. Why should his wife forgiving him result in his potential ultimate employers (the public) not having a right to punish him for his creepy ass behavior.
Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Being the wife of the mayor of NYC has to be a more prominent career stepping stone than being an aide to Hillary pending any definitive POTUS announcement by Ms Clinton.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)jessie04
(1,528 posts)nt
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Plus the fact Clinton creds for outweigh any of the bad things he did. Weiner has no such creds in my opinion.
Clinton ( my fav president with BO btw) got a bj.
Weiner just sent some pictures.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)A young attractive intern flirting with "the boss"... who can resist? Weiner on the other hand was actively sending lewd photos and texts to random strange women... its too weird and perverted for most people to accept.
jessie04
(1,528 posts)nt
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)these were SEXTS....on cellphones!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)duh.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)these adult women accepted his advances.....duh is right! He didn't have sex with random women....he just sexted them pictures of his junk. Good grief.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)unless you consider this kind of behavior normal.
I done with this thread. Ciao.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)its not unique at all.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Heaven's to Betsy I know!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)what do you think all that mail in your email from strange young women is all about? Think they only talk to unmarried men?
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)there is lots and lots and lots of sex on the Internet.....plenty of sites to facilitate such business.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)Are you married and if so are you engaging in sexting with strangers on the net? Sending pics of your erect penis...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you might be surprised what you will find!
anneboleyn
(5,626 posts)You don't know about anyone else's marriage on DU or the behavior of their male partners -- gay or straight -- on DU -- or what we are into sexually. We all, including women, may be up to things far, far "kinkier" than anything Mr. Vanilla Weiner was up to so to speak. I can guarantee that my husband is not sending pics of his junk to anonymous Internet accounts. I will not even begin to go into it. But not all men are "just like that" (in fact for many men, or women, this behavior might actually be a huge turnoff).
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)and you cannot guarantee anything.....unless of course you have a key logger installed and are spying on his every move. Sorry its just the truth. Nor does he know everything you do either unless you tell him everything. No one knows anyone 100%. Sorry
And I didn't say ALL men....never claimed there weren't exceptions....did I?
Whisp
(24,096 posts)the president should have some god damned self control and not a helpless little fuckwad when it comes to them womenz and their voodoo ways that make men lose their minds.
gawd.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)flaws and all!
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Judge not lest ye be judged!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)I think most of the public expects a married POTUS to not open themselves up to blackmail due to a failure to keep their junk in their pants.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Mike Daniels
(5,842 posts)Clinton may have very well lost the election just due to his already been given one chance re the Flowers affair. By the time Lewinsky became an issue Clinton was no longer at the mercy of the voters.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)They always forget about the cigar thingy.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)ohz noes!!11111
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Response to jessie04 (Reply #30)
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VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Now that is almost racist....
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)IMO there's something wrong with this man. When is it going to be exposure in public, or affair. He is a lewd man who doesn't deserve a second chance.
I look at this as a sickness, not just a picture of his dick.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Uh yeah....Bill woulda sent a picture...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)thats sending private messages..it wasnt on Facebook!
Llewlladdwr
(2,175 posts)If you'll cheat on your spouse you'll betray anyone or anything. I don't find that a plus in an elected official.
ZRT2209
(1,357 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)This fellas is a major major creep .... his behavior, while not murderous, is still despicable ...
I, as a lifetime Liberal and Democrat, do NOT want to be associated with such a lame ass putz, ever ...
Is this the best that NYC can produce? ... SURELY, in that big, beautiful, intelligent city, another smart and dynamic Democrat can be found to represent Democrats in that wonderful metropolis ... right?
I swear ... stuff like this brings out the creeps ... DUers who reveal a little took much of themselves ... but I thank you for your honesty, no matter how repugnant the cause ...
jessie04
(1,528 posts)I will try not to have an opinion different than yours in the future.
My apology.
Trajan
(19,089 posts)Then yeah .. proudly wear that creep badge ... you will have earned it ...
jessie04
(1,528 posts)Who the hell uses that word after 1950 or so ?
enjoy.
Bake
(21,977 posts)Frankly, I think it is the poor judgment that disqualifies them from office. Sanford not only had an affair but spent state funds to finance his trysts. He should be in jail, not in Congress.
Weiner continued his peccadillo AFTER HE WAS CAUGHT the first time! Good judgment? Not just no but HELL NO! Did he think it wouldn't come out that he was still doing it? If so, he's an IDIOT who is unfit for office. If not, why didn't he think of that???
Just sayin'.
Bake
yardwork
(69,360 posts)I was prepared to give Weiner the benefit of the doubt. It sounds like he has some kind of sex addiction problem, and his earlier statements seemed to indicate that he was in a program of recovery. If he is, he just screwed up the first step. Blaming other people for our addictions is part of the disease.
An alcoholic who blames his drinking on "a rough time" in his marriage is not taking responsibility for his addiction.
Weiner blames his obsessive sexting on problems in his marriage. He's still sexting. He hasn't put this behind and won't be able to do so until he honestly admits his problem to himself and takes responsibility for himself.
He should drop out of the race and focus on recovery.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)He really does need some help.
And I don't know how his wife can remain with him, I can't help but be a bit judgmental, although I try to understand how the dynamics play out. You know alanon. She need some help like that, possibly.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)He should concentrate on his recovery. We can find someone else.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)I couldn't quite get how he was blaming his wife, but yeh, he went there - the pukemaster little boney shit.
Weiner blames latest XXX online scandal on stress with Huma caused by pre-resignation sexting, begs voters for support in open letter
boston bean
(36,930 posts)I wasn't able to fit the whole thing in the subject line.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)heh.
I won't be having wieners and beans for a while, let me tell ya. And I love wieners and beans.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)Don't ask what I was thinking.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)As long as he is able to perform his job, his personal life shouldn't matter at all. Maybe people like you should focus on leading your own pathetic lives and stop worrying about what other consenting adults do with theirs.
So fucking sick and tired of people using this incident to go on a morality crusade.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)You seem to care quite a bit.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Here's a free tip. The things you post on a PUBLIC message board are viewable to the PUBLIC. If you don't want anonymous people to comment on threads you start, then I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself. Furthermore, the legal activities consenting adults take part in with other consenting adults are NONE of your damn business. Society would improve a great deal if you (and people like you) would just learn to mind your own fucking business, and accept the fact that 1) people enjoy sex, and 2) the habits and kinks of elected officials have no correlation with their job performance.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Followers.
Breitbart, Fox News or any other Rupert Murdoch operations do not count. Nor does "The Dirty" website.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)I understand your drive to make it more juicy, as you love the New York Post so.
Response to Moses2SandyKoufax (Reply #25)
VanillaRhapsody This message was self-deleted by its author.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)they will all feel better!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)get your facts straight....
boston bean
(36,930 posts)And his wife doesn't like what he's done.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)His wife has forgiven him AND it is none of our business...
boston bean
(36,930 posts)He doesn't get to decide whether it's relevant or not, neither does his wife and neither do you.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)he said there would be more coming out....and that some is true and some isn't. His wife has also since forgiving him. It is none of our business. Perhaps she allowed sexting....perhaps she does it herself? You don't know what their marriage is about.....
boston bean
(36,930 posts)Almost a full year after his wife accepted his apologies and believed him. After she had his baby. Face it the guy has real issues.. None that would make me think he was very trustworthy. Or suitable for public office.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)why can't you? She seems to trust him....I accept her assessment before yours.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)I have never heard him blame her.....quotes please!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)or drop it...
boston bean
(36,930 posts)"a rough time in his marriage" means he was on the outs with his wife and that is why he took a second helping. Poor Anthony! I feel so bad for him.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)guess what I am doing right now beanie?
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)LOL
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)thats hyperbolic to the nth degree!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)which is never a good idea
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)you cannot post it....because it is utter bullshit!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Oh and is THAT a threat?
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)What you are saying is bullshit....pure unadulterated bullshit...you cannot reproduce an exact quote.....PERIOD
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)its bullshit.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)reproduce it..or stop saying bullshit.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)someone that spreads bullshit!
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)All you provided as support was Murdoch Spin.
MURDOCH SPIN: In a letter released this afternoon, Weiner apologized but also seemed to shift blame for his pervy behavior to his marriage to former State Department aide Human Abedin.
Vs QUOTE
Sending these embarrassing messages to women online, whom I never met, was a personal failing that was hurtful to my wife and a part of my life that Huma and I have put behind us, he wrote.
Quote says he personally failed and hurt his wife. There is no " shifting blame to his marriage" in that quote other than in the minds of Murdoch's fact free minions.
Response to boston bean (Reply #122)
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kwassa
(23,340 posts)We need to have good responsible candidates running for office.
It is far more about his extremely poor judgment and inability to control his compulsions. Very poor qualities for someone aspiring to hold an important office.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)remember that is what we tell Republicans when they talk about how they hate Gay people!
Unless he is a pedophile or having sex with animals....I don't care what he does.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)You missed that part of my previous post. This is a character issue, as is the compulsion he can't control. This makes him unsuitable for office.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Your analogy makes no sense.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)vote for them for those exact same reasons...I am saying we are not the "Family Values" party....we are not supposed to care what consenting adults do. We shouldnt care if they are monogamous or not...it is NOT our business. Or did we not learn anything from the Clinton years?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)This is a character flaw. A very big character flaw.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)even his wife is over it. Do you know how many men have such a character flaw? Bill Clinton? JFK come to mind....and many many many men have made similar "judgements" Even Jimmy Carter admitted lust in his heart for god sakes!
kwassa
(23,340 posts)He has a compulsion he can't control. He lies about it, and in fact may be lying now about it.
He knows how damaging this is to his reputation, and he couldn't stop doing it. Reputation is gone.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)So if a woman gets called a whore for having multiple partners....we abhor that! We think that is a disgrace to judge her by her sex life...BUT if a guy has sent some lude texts to women who were having online sexual chats with the him....he is unfit for office because he lies about it? I don't understand that...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)proclivities....
I have heard that word "reputation" bandied about when women's sex lives are discusssed...
Didn't any of you all live through the 70's around here?
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Which means he couldn't stop. He'd already been busted.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Damned if he did damned if he didnt,
I cannot figure out how WE became the party of prudes!
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)what some consider an "ick factor" should not come into the equation. Should everyone lose a job because some find their sex life "icky" is a doctor qualified if he cheats on his wife? Isn't his judgement questionable too? And a life may even depend on it! Do we really want to go down THAT road?
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)and are prone to mistakes and personal shortcomings. He's not running for the office of "Every woman's husband", he's running for mayor of NYC, and since "Boston Bean" isn't married to him, what the fuck does any of this matter?
Some people get pissed off when they learn that they can't control other adults.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)the guy sounds like a 13 year old moron, I bet he is a total dud in a real bed so he has to long distance it.
pressing your dick against a monitor = active sex life.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)have you seen the Internet lately?
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)but sexting is hardly unusual these days...
boston bean
(36,930 posts)Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)And guess what? It's none of your fucking business! Only an authoritarian of the highest order thinks what legal actions consenting adults take part in are any of their concern.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)The only people this affects is Weiner and his wife. That's it. The obsession over this is beyond ridiculous.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Judging by this post, and the other one directly above it, it's safe to conclude that you're really just a bitter divorcee. Well, I'm sorry your marriage didn't work out, I'm sorry your husband wasn't faithful. Despite the hardships you've endured, I'm not willing to throw another good politician overboard because you think he deserves to be punished for being human.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)besides yelling at the Pugs once in a while. Really, he's a nothing doer, he is a Nothing. If not for his small peckerhead he would disappear into the abyss of Nothing.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)Whisp
(24,096 posts)And it's a shame that that is somehow shameful - to be loyal and not be a stinkin' cheater.
Pathetic upside down world.
Moses2SandyKoufax
(1,290 posts)at his/her job, especially when that job consists of improving the lives of people they represent, then I don't care how great of a husband and father they are. Results matter, home life doesn't. I'll take a total prick who gets shit done over a spineless father of the year candidate every day of the fucking week.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)Too bad you don't know better, but that's not my problem. It's someone(s) elses.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Is that considered part of his job? Sexting? Or was he only doing it on his "break time"?
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)First or not, I don't think it's appropriate behavior and think it's cause for dismissal whether in the private sector or public office.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)kwassa
(23,340 posts)Trajan
(19,089 posts)Democrats don't need idiots like that schmuck to represent them in any form or fashion ...
It's not about morality .. it's about judgement, or the lack of it in the extreme ...
Weiner and his supporters can go to hell ... He is a proven piece of shit, and any supporters who remain need to get their heads examined ...
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)cause thats alot of people these days...
Wednesdays
(22,593 posts)
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)matthews
(497 posts)Anthony Weiner Prematurely Ejaculated During Phone Sex: Nik Richie (VIDEO)
Posted: 07/24/2013 5:53 pm EDT | Updated: 07/24/2013 6:32 pm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/24/anthony-weiner-premature-ejaculation_n_3646159.html
ICK ICK ICK.
Whisp
(24,096 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)matthews
(497 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)boston bean
(36,930 posts)That is the one thing you would find to be compassionate to his wife about. Speaks volumes.
anneboleyn
(5,626 posts)Weiner's tastes are so very juvenile (I am paraphrasing)...my husband thought the sad Weiner/Carlos Danger phone sex -- like a teenager dialing 900 numbers --was just very, well, limited. Especially for a man of his age.
matthews
(497 posts)never figured it out? She thought she was in love? After all that everybody knew about the guy the first time, and after six months of never meeting up in person, and after six month of premature ejaculations over the telephone, that woman thought there was a serious relationship there?
That's so crazy.
amuse bouche
(3,672 posts)to drugs, alcohol or actual sex, he would get a lot more support
This comes across as dumb High School stuff
To me it's just silly and annoying
boston bean
(36,930 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)But I am guessing you are pretty aware of that by now, lol. (Have seen some of the BS thrown your way recently.
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)of Democratic Underground!
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)that was written in invisible ink. Here it is:
VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)She really needs to be rid of that asshat -- just as the rest of us do.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)do you really mean that?
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)Zorra
(27,670 posts)puritanical sky daddy religions and their institutionalized horror of sex I'd pay for free health care for everyone in the world for the rest of their lives.
A lot of the people complaining about Weiner's weirdness are hypocrites who have far more bizarre fantasies that they would like to fulfill in real time.
I have been sexually uninhibited, open, and promiscuous my entire life. I was a member of a working rock band for a long time. I try not to be a hypocrite, I've made my share of mistakes in relationships like anyone else. And you know what? I know for absolute 100% sure, from long and frequent experience, that Weiner's weirdness is pretty tame compared to a lot of other people's "weirdness". Believe it.
It's the dishonesty that is troubling to me.
That prim little nurse next door? Nothing gets her off more than peeing on her boyfriend while riding him like a pony in the bathtub.
The ex-marine across the street? He fantasizes about your husband fucking him in the ass while his wife watches and masturbates
You, or your sister, or best friend, maybe really gets off on doing it while being tied up and blindfolded.
Or whatever color you like.
Tony the Congressman gets off on sending naughty pictures to nubile young women. The republican congressman or senator whatshisname gets off sucking strange through a glory hole in a bathroom stall in an airport. Bill the President likes to penetrate his young female aide with a fine havana before she blows him. Billy boy the gambling secretary of education religious hypocrite pays his dominatrix to whip his ass black and blue while making him grovel and telling him what a worthless piece of shit he is. etc. on and on and on'...
It's the secrecy, dishonesty, and guilt involved that is the real issue here. If a person is going to be in a committed relationship with someone,then they need to be honest with them about their sexuality and their fantasies and needs.
If Anthony felt he could not be honest with his wife about his needs and fantasies, then what's the fucking point of being with her? Isn't this the same way with everyone? What's the point of being in a relationship if you're going to live a lie and hurt yourself and others by it?
People really need to be honest with themselves and their significant others, or they are going to inevitably cause a painful nasty mess of misery for someone somewhere down the road, including themselves.
It's the secrecy, dishonesty, and hypocrisy that causes and makes sex and relationships to be so ugly and painful for so many people, and nothing is going to even begin to change unless/until society somehow miraculously gets real about sex.
Some phony hypocritical prude here may alert on this post and get it hidden, but it would be just trying to hide the truth, and pretty much everybody here damn well knows it.

VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)it's their marriage and we don't know what THEIR rules of engagement are? They could both be sexting for all we know....perhaps she knew and looked the other way. He didn't actually have sex with anyone....perhaps she didn't consider that cheating...We don't know what the situation is. All we know is the person that knows him best has said she forgives him......
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Why apologize, and why forgive, if there's nothing to apologize for, and nothing to forgive?
Whatever, I wish them much peace, love, and much happiness.
opiate69
(10,129 posts)
ELI BOY 1950
(173 posts)allin99
(894 posts)for information.
emulatorloo
(46,155 posts)"Don't rely on NYPost headlines for information." Words to the wise, but lost on original poster.