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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy is the national media mostly doing a lousy job of the Filner story?
Last edited Thu Jul 25, 2013, 05:28 PM - Edit history (1)
I think it's intentional, and there is no way the National media has no clue who Bob Filner was while in Congress. This was a response to another thread, but I figured it deserved it's own.
First off, the story went international during the Gloria Alldred presser on Monday, when she announced the civil complaint against the city of San Diego, and Bob Filner. It's not just channel 12 Tijuana, televisa station, but also CBC Canada. They were both there. Televisa makes sense due to the years of work Filner had, decades, with Tijuana as part of the Border Region. Bob Filner even served during Clinton's years as some kind of presidential envoy, while in Congress, to help with NAFTA. Yup, he actually ran on that before the business community.
In the US the story is not fully registering nationally, and msnbc, the place for politics, is doing a lousy job on it's effects to the California party, but this is now international.
It's worst than that...Wiener really never had bills passed in Congress. Filner served in the Armed Services committee as chairman of Veterans Affairs,among other committees, and among other things he was the author of the GI bill for the 911 generation. In other words he was not a back bencher.
Anthony Weiner was loud while in Congress. Filner was part of the inside tract machine.
My opinion, it's not been reported that way by the NY-DC media because Filner could touch, and drag down, other powerful dems. Yup, he was a powerful So-Cal ally of among others Nancy Pelosi and even Stenny Hoyer. And while a progressive, a national defense hawk.
It speaks volumes as to how both stories are being covered, and it is not just the size of the markets. What Wiener has in common with Filner...both are considered progressives.
And if you are outraged over Wiener, you should be doubly so over Filner. The latter, just a matter of time for actual criminal charges.
(And I get not to chase this story today....Yee haw!!!! (He is supposed to show at a ground breaking ceremony...doubt it)
msongs
(73,724 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)That be Canadian news...then again they did not pretend not to know who Filner is.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)their politicians are too clean and boring to have sex scandals.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)One word. NAFTA
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Your claims that Filner was the consummate insider and close ally of Pelosi and Hoyer, don't hold up and you provide no evidence for those claims.
How is Filner impacting the CA Dem party? Please provide links to sources and stories. Otherwise it's just a claim with no evidence.
Filner may not have been a back bencher but he wasn't a consequential figure or in the House leadership at any time. He wasn't some powerful congressman. Hell, he had less power than my rep who wasn't even elected until 2006 and did make it into the House Leadership. And Welch is from Vermont not CA.
http://welch.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1316:welch-appointed-to-house-leadership-team&catid=39:2011-press-releases
I'm not sure what you think the inside track machine is, but Filner was not an important figure in Congress or in D.C.
It's not about outrage, it's about the obvious reasons why Weiner really is an international above the fold story and Filner isn't.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/13/bob-filner-scandal_n_3591054.html
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Don't expect HuffPo to cover it...all are trying to minimize it.
The party is getting torn apart between the progressives and the DLC types...and the elites are getting torn apart from the base.
Long term alliances are getting shattered.
That is what the media (I guess it is, I am) is truly not telling you.
I give the local republicans even odds of doing well in 2014, they should do well, but they are highly dysfunctional. So that is the bright side.
This Filner kerfunkle has risen to the regional central committee where divisions are spreading shard like.
cali
(114,904 posts)you never do and it's not a good trait for a reporter- though I think it's not accurate for you to make that claim. it's misleading. You write for an online outlet that isn't even close to being a news organization. It's my understanding that just about anyone can write for it. Do you have press credentials?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)SAN DIEGO (CNS) - A day after two more women accused him of sexual harassment, the San Diego County Democratic Party Thursday will meet for the second time to work out its stance on the political future of embattled San Diego Mayor Bob Filner.
Party committee members met last Thursday for more than three hours but failed to reach a consensus on whether to support the 70-year-old Filner, whose resignation is being clamored for by several local office holders and civic leaders, both Democrat and Republican.
In a statement released after last week's meeting, committee chairwoman Francine Busby said that, although committee members were divided, there would be grounds for Filner's resignation if the sexual harassment allegations turn out to be true.
http://www.cbs8.com/story/22930341/sd-democratic-party-to-meet-in-wake-of-third-filner-accuser
Link in a sec, the IPad is playing games..but serious this is my fracking beat...among others...city hall...as we say, both fires and city hall are full of hot air and just as destructive
cali
(114,904 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Serious.
Just my beat and you said it had no effect on the party. It has, it will...have a good day.
Me, come 2014...I got no clue...I might just sit it out
cali
(114,904 posts)you've made breathless claims about how this could impact on members of Congress, how he some big inside "tract" player and how it could even effect the Clintons.
None of that is true. I provide links to sources. You don't. I care about facts and you play fast and loose with them. That's always been my problem with your posts and you do it with abandon.
I think you should put me back on "iggypoo" or whatever you call it, because I just can't take seeing made up stuff passed off as fact and I will call it out.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Sorry if you cannot accept this.
Have an excellent day
cali
(114,904 posts)like Filner who you know oh so well was chair of Armed Services. Yup, that's what YOU said. WRONG.
Like Filner is "the consummate insider" WRONG again. BACKBENCHER and I provided you with links and sources.
Like Filner was a close ally of Pelosi and Hoyer. WRONG.
Like how his scandal is important on international level WRONG.
Ever since I first encountered you here you've made crap up and I just can't sit back and not call you on it. Maybe that's a failing of mine, but now that you're running around claiming to be press, it's even more egregious.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Okie dokie.
What else did not happen on Saturday? I know, I did not meet Lewis either at Comicon, in fact Comicon never happened...the chariot fire, that never happened either...if you say it did not happen, it didn't.
My editor was there on Saturday on an unrelated matter. But I guess you know better from Vermont than editor physically on location.
You are getting played, congrats.
These editorial decisions are not accidental.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Buy bye, will not make that mistake again.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Normal scheduling will now resume.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)and it's really disgusting that anyone claiming to be be press, would post so much flat out misinformation and prevarication.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)thanks for that. I can't stop laughing.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)The MSM follows along like the lap dogs they've become and cover a non story wall to wall 24/7.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)the dem party supported him. He's never been a tenth as liberal as my rep who was made part of the House leadership or a tenth as effective. No one is trying to get him out. Hell, the dem party supports my socialist senator.
He lived as a showboater in the House and he's meeting a fitting end.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)He's way too liberal to run the city with Wall St in it.
He might get ideas like he's in charge or something.
Cant have that.
cali
(114,904 posts)kind of guy.
ack.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)At least a big enough deal to have done two segments on Filner so far this week.
And yes, this is significant; the initial request to step down came from within the party, solid supporters basically saying "do the right thing...please!"
But Filner said no, and now we are probably going to see some very public charges, and some serious damage to an already very tenuous blue majority. It is the kind of thing that just fulfills the stereotype for republicans, and makes Dems just say "screw it".
And it is also a political blacklight, starkly segregating the DLC party loyalists from the actual progressives.
Damn, I wish this train wreck wasn't happening!
Iggo
(49,920 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It's been a long time since the national media did a decent job of covering much of anything at all.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)between a lawsuit and criminal charges. Which is more than we can say about East County Magazine's reporters and editors.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023322854
It has been corrected on DU and at ECM. The note about the needed correction in the comments at the ECM has been deleted, so it never happened.
cali
(114,904 posts)crap and nothing but.
DevonRex
(22,541 posts)That's bad journalism.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But not the full explanation.
As I said in the OP...televisa made sense, border town, San Diego affects Tijuana. CBC did not by that logic
Regardless, my view is that the media is lazy, but also protective of the hands that feed it. We see that here locally where editors are afraid of speaking bad words of people in power...so to keep bridges....at times turn the other way.
In this case I think the national media is afraid of possible connections to the hill. So they control the story and do a lousy job.
I mean, Lawrence O'Donnel knows Filner from his years in the hill. I get it people here don't know. He is also a Cali resident. So there is far more to that decision. And Weiner is easy too...just drive down the office.
For the sake of argument, if this exploded under the previous mayor, you'd be very correct, as in the previous mayor being under that cloud. And for the record the media at national level covered the financial problems in 2002-3 far more closely and called San Diego, Enron by the Sea.
It actually reminds me of Occupy and how it was, or was not, covered.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Why do you assume they knew each other? Do you have a link showing that O'Donnell and Filmed knew each other?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)pervert's personal story drag down other politicos?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)As I told the person above. Jerry Sanders, you'd be very correct, and since he was a Republican, he would be crucified here.
I am sorry the media is doing a lousy job, they are also doing what they do. Editorial decision is not accidental.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)"powerful dems",his staffers (who probably covered for him) aren't powerful dems. Why bring Pelosi and Hoyer into this guys personal mess,it's got nothing to do with them?
cali
(114,904 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know it is not a coincidence what Pelosi released today on both men.
But if you think otherwise, it's ok too. I will stand by what I said, lack of coverage is an editorial decision going further than just small town. If this was. Jerry Sanders you'd be correct.