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[TheMastersNemesis]

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[steve2470]

1. Not even close

I'm no fan of the R party, but they are not physically assaulting, with a private army (the SA) their political opponents in the streets.

You may wish to read some more.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Jews behind closed doors, maybe, but

Muslims openly.

[REP]

3. Everything? That's a bit of a stretch.

I have not been required to wear a yellow star or been relocated to a concentration or extermination camp.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

4. And let me guess --

you would like them rounded-up as enemies of the state.

[Nye Bevan]

5. You need to read a book about Nazi Germany. (nt)

[MrSlayer]

6. They are using some nefarious tactics but they aren't Nazis.

They aren't marching through the streets burning Jewish/Black/Gay stores and properties and killing people wantonly.

They are fascists but of a different sort.

[NewThinkingChance40]

7. Both sides in Washington

have members who are guilty of using hate to divide the populous. It is wrong no matter the context, but they haven't gathered people into camps or marked anyone...yet.

[JaneyVee]

10. Name them.

[The Straight Story]

15. One does not need to even look at DC to see something similar

Hatred of fellow citizens who own guns (nut jobs, humpers, etc), christians labeled as evil/haters/etc (and some sure are), smokers, people who drink big sodas or eat fast food, etc and so on.

Point here being is how a group is labeled and gone after because of what a few in that group do - all in an attempt to villify a group and make them more socially unacceptable (ie shaming people into changing who they are).

Our culture right now is one of fear of others - well, fear of other citizens. We are all potential terrorists right now - and both parties are implicated in that from the patriot act down to current NSA.

"See something, Say something" , arresting people for taking photos, bailing out the wealthy (hating on the poor), not even trying for single payer.

Point is here - Even on DU - we see that both parties are not doing what is in our best interest and are trying to pit us against each other and they always seem to favor the powerful and wealthy.

[JaneyVee]

22. I thought the point was politicians in DC, that's what I thought poster was referring to

Since they said DC.

[The Straight Story]

23. Politicians in DC

Signed the patriot act, etc

We do have DINO's out there ya know From the olden days of DU for example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3501396

We do need to clean house come election time, and to see the names, just keep reading DU, they pop up often enough.

[NewThinkingChance40]

31. The point I was trying to make

was that while it is more common on the right to try and hold down people, there are politicians on both sides of the isle that will do anything and say anything for votes. Behind closed doors, most politicians will do anything to stay in power and hold down we the people in the process. The right wing does it more often, and would be more likely to grow into a party like the nazis, but it is more of a political ideology than a party one.

[Niceguy1]

28. best post of the day

N/t

[Scootaloo]

8. Nazis were fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis

[JaneyVee]

9. Very Nazi-like though.

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. Everything...you serious on that post

Please point to the ghettoes, concentration and extermination camps.

I will wait over here.

[sarisataka]

12. A house cat and a tiger may have similarities

but you would not mistake one for the other...

[olddots]

13. I agree 100%

there can be no comparison because of the different circumstances but I do agree that they pose a very serious threat to humanity .

[Hekate]

14. Ridiculous. You need a picture book. nt

[charlyvi]

16. You are disrespecting the folks who suffered at the hands of Nazi Germany.

Please think before you post this type of thing. And please read "Bloodlands" by Timothy Snyder.

[TheMastersNemesis]

18. I Was Talking About The Early And MId 1930's Before The Takeover.

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. The Night of the Long Knives was in 1934.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

[Pab Sungenis]

30. Including homosexuals?

Please, don't let this fall into a "my people suffered more than yours" pissing contest.

The tactics are the same. Scapegoating, dividing, rampant militarism and nationalism.

We're only two elections away from the brink.

[Taitertots]

17. I think you need to expand your studies regarding the history of Nazi Germany

Widespread violence was a major factor in the rise of Nazism in Germany.

The policies in America that mirror the worst policies of the WWII era are:
Intrusive secret police system (DHS, FBI, NSA...)
Terry Stops
Secretly spying on peace groups, Occupy Wall street...
Arresting people for being unable to produce identification
Collusion between the military industrial complex and politicians
Road blocks
Criminalizing protests (free speech zones, declaring unlawful assemblies...)

[BainsBane]

19. You mean except for the 12 million people killed?

All assholes are not Nazis.

[NuclearDem]

20. Because the GOP isn't making claims of Aryan superiority

Throwing the Nazi card around is the reason we can't have serious discussions about the creeping fascism in American politics. The terms have been so long since reduced to general epithets that any attempt to legitimately call out the building blocks of fascism get met with eye rolls and mocking.

But since we brought up the Nazis, if there's no claim to Aryan superiority, it cannot be Nazism.

[Pab Sungenis]

32. No, they claim White Christian superiority.

Similar.

[cherokeeprogressive]

21. Hyperbole, even when well intentioned, does not always produce the expected result.

I offer the responses to your post as evidence.

[former9thward]

24. If they are using "the police and state police to stop dissent"...

why are they allowing you to post on DU?

[TheMastersNemesis]

25. The GOP Is Now A White Supremacist Christian Extremist Party.

They have not shown their true colors yet. Wisconsin And Michigan And North Carolina is only a glimpse of their extremist agenda.

[TheMastersNemesis]

26. The Real Agenda Of The GOP Will Come Out If They Ever Get Complete Control.

And no one will like it.

[TheMastersNemesis]

27. This Post Was A Test And I Learned What I Needed To Know

[steve2470]

35. you learned we are able to accurately discriminate between Nazis and Republicans

Even before 1933, there is no good comparison. Yes, the R's are assholes but they are NOT that bad. Yes, occasionally one of their supporters gets violent or says something stupid about Muslims in public, but they are many many years away from comparable.

You need to read extensively how much political violence went on in Germany pre-1933.

[sarisataka]

29. "We Demand" -Nazi propaganda, 1927

Background: The following essay was published in the fourth issue of Der Angriff, dated 25 July 1927. Goebbels makes a general attack on the government without being very clear as to just what policies should be followed. It is typical of his general style during the early years of his activity in Berlin.

The source: “Wir fordern,” Der Angriff, Aufsätze aus der Kampfzeit (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., 1935), pp. 18-19.

We Demand

by Joseph Goebbels
The German people is an enslaved people. Under international law, it is lower than the worst Negro colony in the Congo. One has taken all sovereign rights from us. We are just good enough that international capital allows us to fill its money sacks with interest payments. That and only that is the result of a centuries-long history of heroism. Have we deserved it? No, and no again!

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/angrif05.htm
The remainder of the pamphlet is in English at the link

[NightWatcher]

33. OP Fail for Hitler/Nazi reference

If you think they do the same thing...
Never mind. If you can't tell I'm not telling.