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derby378

(30,252 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:44 PM Aug 2013

Has Discovery Channel "jumped the shark?"

Dear Discovery Communications,

I have to say, I had high hopes for this year’s Shark Week. But we’re only one special in and already, shark week has seriously jumped the shark.

I get why you had a special about
C. megalodon. What shark inspires more fear and fascination than Megalodon, the Chondrichthyean monster that once dominated our planet’s oceans? The shark’s name, which translates to “giant tooth”, says it all. Their hand-sized dental records are some of the only fossilized evidence we have of these gigantic predators, which lived from ~50 million years ago to around 2 million years ago. Based on their size, scientists have estimated these sharks grew to upwards of 60 feet long with a bite force anywhere between 10 and 18 tons, and from scarred fossils we know they likely dined on the giant whales of their time. This year’s Shark Week kick-off special, Megalodon: The Monster Shark That Lives, claimed to provide evidence that these massive beasts are still out there, using scattered anecdotes and scientific testimony to support the assertion. There’s only one problem: the entire “documentary” wasn’t real.

No whale with a giant bite taken out of it has ever washed up here in Hawaii. No fishing vessel went mysteriously missing off of South Africa in April. No one has ever found unfossilized Megalodon teeth. Collin Drake?
Doesn’t exist. The evidence was faked, the stories fabricated, and the scientists portrayed on it were actors. The idea that Megalodon could still be roaming the ocean is a complete and total myth.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/science-sushi/2013/08/05/shark-week-jumps-the-shark-an-open-letter-to-discovery-communications/#.UgAp6JKsiSo
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Has Discovery Channel "jumped the shark?" (Original Post) derby378 Aug 2013 OP
Jumped the Plesiosaur. Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #1
It seems to have gotten into a rut and nothing interesting quinnox Aug 2013 #2
Thank you for posting this! zappaman Aug 2013 #3
You're most certainly welcome derby378 Aug 2013 #8
They should have run sharknado elehhhhna Aug 2013 #41
Might as well have! n/t zappaman Aug 2013 #42
anything to get ratings. Media sucks these days. Period. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #4
I'm glad it was fake. Now I can get back into the water egold2604 Aug 2013 #5
Discover/Nat' Geog / A & E/ History/ & TLC SoCalDem Aug 2013 #6
These days the History Channel is to history as Dr Pepper is to doctors. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #14
I went online & purchased 4 complete sets of "Connections" SoCalDem Aug 2013 #15
I remember Connections. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #17
Good One! adirondacker Aug 2013 #19
History's lineup particularly depresses me there Posteritatis Aug 2013 #33
So sad indeed Politicalboi Aug 2013 #56
It's gone Sharknado Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #7
You had to go there, didn't you? derby378 Aug 2013 #9
... Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #25
I haven't seen that one yet Marrah_G Aug 2013 #12
I could see a SHARKNADO/PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE double feature derby378 Aug 2013 #22
Hmmm.... I was thinking Sharknado and Giant Pirahna Marrah_G Aug 2013 #27
Why not a quadruple feature? jmowreader Aug 2013 #44
Triple feature with Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #29
Sharknado and A Finny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum pinboy3niner Aug 2013 #37
Its on Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #26
It's entertaining for alot of people Marrah_G Aug 2013 #10
When you create a fictional story and fake "found footage".... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #46
Between them, History Channel and TLC, yes, the shark's been jumped. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #11
I rather like PAWN STARS derby378 Aug 2013 #24
Gotta love Mythbusters sakabatou Aug 2013 #38
Pfft. I don't care Texasgal Aug 2013 #13
but if they all become like that in order to get ratings where are we going to get real programming liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #16
Reality shows are cheap, & it's easy to goad people to act like drama queens in front of the camera. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #28
It's cable. Texasgal Aug 2013 #34
Yeah, but this guy .... Scuba Aug 2013 #18
Jesus, maybe a graphic warning, "ultimate nightmare if in water" quinnox Aug 2013 #21
He's just smiling for the picture Tree-Hugger Aug 2013 #47
I don't know but "Naked and Afraid" is my favorite show! zonkers Aug 2013 #20
The fake documentaries are kind of entertaining, i guess RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #23
We went out on a cage diving boat when we were in Gansbaai. Puglover Aug 2013 #30
Did the show have this guy? backscatter712 Aug 2013 #31
They did to megalodon what they did to mermaids csziggy Aug 2013 #32
Spot on! zappaman Aug 2013 #35
Didn't someone sue over the mermaid mocumentary? sakabatou Aug 2013 #39
I don't follow much entertainment news csziggy Aug 2013 #48
oh crud MFM008 Aug 2013 #36
Or maybe AMISH SHARK MAFIA derby378 Aug 2013 #40
+1,000 Tree-Hugger Aug 2013 #50
I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2013 #43
You are not alone! zappaman Aug 2013 #45
Long ago. tabasco Aug 2013 #49
BBC documentaries make the Discovery Channel look like long-term glue huffers by comparison. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #51
I vote for "Megalodonado vs. Honey Boo Boo" Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #52
FTW! derby378 Aug 2013 #55
That this passes itself off as "learning" has the effect of making people stupid Scootaloo Aug 2013 #53
What was the one a couple years ago about some possibly Mayan monument on brewens Aug 2013 #54
The Bible miniseries from a few months back is another epic fail. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #57
I rather enjoy Deadliest Catch. Needs more Mermaids though. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #58
 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
2. It seems to have gotten into a rut and nothing interesting
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:55 PM
Aug 2013

for a while. I don't watch it. I do like the Investigation Discovery sister channel though, for the crime stories. Those hook me.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
3. Thank you for posting this!
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 06:56 PM
Aug 2013

I was watching that last night and just thought WTF?
I love shark week for the science, not this bullshit.
Awful.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
8. You're most certainly welcome
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:09 PM
Aug 2013

I spent the bulk of Sunday night playing Fallout 3 instead.

Discovery Channel, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Either show me some actual physical evidence to support a modern Megalodon or I go back to hunting mutated ghouls and beasts on Xbox that we know aren't real.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
6. Discover/Nat' Geog / A & E/ History/ & TLC
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:07 PM
Aug 2013

they ALL jumped the shark/rhino/tiger/dinosaur a LONG time ago.

They are mostly crap tv these days:

Just look at the shit they show..It will break your heart, if you are old enough to remember when they showed quality stuff..

Discovery

A&E

The Learning Channel

History Channel

Nat'l Geographic

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
15. I went online & purchased 4 complete sets of "Connections"
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:17 PM
Aug 2013

and "The Day the World Changed" for my grown sons who loved those shows waaaay back when we first got TLC..

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
17. I remember Connections.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:18 PM
Aug 2013

Another one I remember was Worst Jobs in History with Tony Robinson.

I wish they still made shows like that.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
33. History's lineup particularly depresses me there
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:45 PM
Aug 2013

One show - one - that could theoretically be history-esque (Museum Secrets), with the rest being either reality TV or things like the Indiana Jones movies.

I gave up on most of the others awhile back - TLC in particular back when it decided its lineup would be nothing but marriage and childbirth shows for awhile - but as someone with a couple of history degrees the blighting that hit History Channel particularly upsets me.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
56. So sad indeed
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:54 PM
Aug 2013

I used to like to watch those shows. Seems about the time Court TV changed to reality TV, they all seemed to change. To me reality TV ISN'T real. Give me old Candid Camera, now that's "real" TV.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
12. I haven't seen that one yet
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:13 PM
Aug 2013

That's going be a special night of popcorn, maybe some drinks and my boys . While they were growing up we used have "Bad SciFi Saturdays". Good times!

derby378

(30,252 posts)
22. I could see a SHARKNADO/PLAN NINE FROM OUTER SPACE double feature
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:22 PM
Aug 2013

"You see? You see? Your stupid minds? Stupid! STUPID!"

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
27. Hmmm.... I was thinking Sharknado and Giant Pirahna
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:28 PM
Aug 2013

....so bad that in the speeding car seen the car actually changed colors. Maybe they crashed the first one ...lmao

jmowreader

(50,563 posts)
44. Why not a quadruple feature?
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:05 PM
Aug 2013

Sharknado, Plan 9 from Outer Space, Giant Piranha and Snakes on a Plane?

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
10. It's entertaining for alot of people
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:12 PM
Aug 2013

The though of undiscovered monsters out there in the deep. I don't think it does any harm, any more then a show on bigfoot or loch ness. It certainly won't stop me from enjoying shark week

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
46. When you create a fictional story and fake "found footage"....
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:14 PM
Aug 2013

....and pass it off as real, that's a huge problem.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
11. Between them, History Channel and TLC, yes, the shark's been jumped.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:13 PM
Aug 2013

The only good show on any of those networks anymore is Mythbusters.

Aside from that, you turn them on, and you get Pawn Stars, Swamp People and Honey Boo Boo. That entire block of channels has turned to trash.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
24. I rather like PAWN STARS
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:25 PM
Aug 2013

Not only does it expose me to restoration services that describe what it takes to refurbish neglected or distressed antiques, but I like the history connected with many of the items brought into the shop, especially those Spanish doubloons fused into a lump under the sea that Arthur C. Clarke found while diving off of Sri Lanka.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
16. but if they all become like that in order to get ratings where are we going to get real programming
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:18 PM
Aug 2013

from? It's one thing to have some entertainment programs, but because they are all greedy and all want those precious ratings they are all producing the same kind of entertaining docudramas. If they want to produce some shows like that that is fine with me, but produce some that are based on facts for those of us who are interested in fact based documentaries and label them so people know the difference before they waste an hour of their time trying to figure out which is which.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
28. Reality shows are cheap, & it's easy to goad people to act like drama queens in front of the camera.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:29 PM
Aug 2013

Besides, the executives want the ratings from the room-temperature-IQ demographic, so we get lowest-common-denominator TV.

Texasgal

(17,048 posts)
34. It's cable.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:57 PM
Aug 2013

People have choices.

I enjoyed the program although I was skeptical, still entertaining though.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
23. The fake documentaries are kind of entertaining, i guess
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:23 PM
Aug 2013

but when you take into account the sort of incredible phenomena that DO exist already without any exaggeration, why bother wasting time with fake nonsense?

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
30. We went out on a cage diving boat when we were in Gansbaai.
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:32 PM
Aug 2013

Just being in the boat and watching was more then enough for me. First of all it was cold and secondly I was

One of the things that I have never seen in any documentary is a perspective that shows just how big these beauties are.

They are magnificent creatures. I'd like to go back someday.

Note to anyone that goes. Take your Dramamine.

Oh and PS. This was a silly thing for them to open Shark Week with. Entertaining fun but bad timing IMHO.

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
32. They did to megalodon what they did to mermaids
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 07:44 PM
Aug 2013

I wouldn't have minded either if they had made it clear they were speculative fiction mockumentaries. But to present them as if they were fact without disclaimers is irresponsible.

This country has a big enough problem with lack of science education and disinformation. We don't need Discovery Channel piling on more than is already done with Bigfoot, paranormal, hauntings, and the other bullshit they waste time on.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
35. Spot on!
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:09 PM
Aug 2013

"This country has a big enough problem with lack of science education and disinformation. We don't need Discovery Channel piling on more than is already done with Bigfoot, paranormal, hauntings, and the other bullshit they waste time on."

csziggy

(34,138 posts)
48. I don't follow much entertainment news
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:33 PM
Aug 2013

I know I read that the second mermaid mocumentary pissed off viewers.

I hope that these things show people how easy it is to create a credible fake that can be used to "prove" anything. If all it does is to get people to check out a few facts, they may be worth something.

MFM008

(19,820 posts)
36. oh crud
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:14 PM
Aug 2013

Next it will be unicorns. I like facts with my shark attacks. They keep it up and National Geo channel will take over with "Shark Fest".

derby378

(30,252 posts)
40. Or maybe AMISH SHARK MAFIA
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:27 PM
Aug 2013

"We live a carnivorous Christian life without electricity, which we believe is divine providence because we live in the ocean. We're sharks! But sometimes we need a shark to step up and defend our feeding frenzies in a way that our bishop, Hammerhead, cannot. That's when we bring in Levi the Bull (Shark)."

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
43. I'm glad I'm not the only one who was annoyed
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 08:50 PM
Aug 2013

I'm perfectly fine with a Shark Week show debating the possibility of Megalodon still existing. Inventing a fictional tale to pad a two hour show and sell it as a "documentary" pissed me off.

zappaman

(20,606 posts)
45. You are not alone!
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:08 PM
Aug 2013

I kept watching it because I was mesmerized by the sheer bullshit of it!
And 70% of the people who saw it, believed it?
Unfuckingreal.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
53. That this passes itself off as "learning" has the effect of making people stupid
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:44 PM
Aug 2013

It's like finding a starving man and offering him a display of marshmallow peeps. Oh, he'll eat the fuckers, and he'll feel full, but they're not going to help him out any.

brewens

(13,622 posts)
54. What was the one a couple years ago about some possibly Mayan monument on
Mon Aug 5, 2013, 09:44 PM
Aug 2013

an Island off the coast of South America. Something special about it anyway that was "astounding". This pile of rocks, more like a natural outcropping they tried to pass off as a monument was idiotic. That was huge waste of time.

Okay. I just went and found it.

http://www.ask.com/wiki/Apocalypse_Island?o=2801&qsrc=999

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
57. The Bible miniseries from a few months back is another epic fail.
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 12:52 AM
Aug 2013

That's the History Channel spreading fairy tales...

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