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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:10 PM Aug 2013

It seems like people here find particular delight

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in us-them alignment re:the NSA controversy. I am a little repulsed when I come across the "the apologists will be here soon" posts. I really don't understand why disagreement on this issue can't be civil. I would hope it would not be fun to tear fellow Democrats down.

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It seems like people here find particular delight (Original Post) loyalsister Aug 2013 OP
... Fumesucker Aug 2013 #1
For way too many it has become important to quickly categorize others as friend or foe... Silent3 Aug 2013 #2
Yeah. I'm not much on black or white thinking loyalsister Aug 2013 #3
Yeah, name-calling and preemptively attacking those who you assume Just Saying Aug 2013 #4
You can't be civil towards fascism. AppleBottom Aug 2013 #5
There are no fascists here. But there are plenty of name-callers. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #15
This has been worse than the Occupy heyday. randome Aug 2013 #6
Oh, that's rich Fumesucker Aug 2013 #8
Happens to all of us. randome Aug 2013 #17
I know loyalsister Aug 2013 #9
It's like the old joke about the new prisoner Fumesucker Aug 2013 #7
Number four Lugal Zaggesi Aug 2013 #12
"Hater!" "Racist!" "Firebagger!" "You just want a pony that farts glitter!" tblue Aug 2013 #10
It was a general observation loyalsister Aug 2013 #11
Interesting. I'm here almost every night jazzimov Aug 2013 #13
Here's "Obama Hater" for you Fumesucker Aug 2013 #16
The worst of the name-callers are not Democrats pnwmom Aug 2013 #14
Locking, per consensus of GD hosts that it is Meta. pacalo Aug 2013 #18

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
1. ...
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:15 PM
Aug 2013
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3437109

I'm sorry, but you've been on his jock from day one.

But remember, it's never about Snowden if you are critical of him. But if you want to praise him and call him a hero, then it's about Snowden.
 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
2. For way too many it has become important to quickly categorize others as friend or foe...
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:17 PM
Aug 2013

...on the slightest pretext, and to show bitter contempt to those judged "foe". Any attempt at nuance or qualification on any point of disagreement must be quickly interpreted as "weasel words" instead.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
3. Yeah. I'm not much on black or white thinking
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:35 PM
Aug 2013

There is usually gray area that merits consideration.

Just Saying

(1,799 posts)
4. Yeah, name-calling and preemptively attacking those who you assume
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:37 PM
Aug 2013

Disagree with you gets old fast. Frankly, it's shut down any real debate on the issue. Who needs the drama?

 

AppleBottom

(201 posts)
5. You can't be civil towards fascism.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:38 PM
Aug 2013

Should we lay down to Republicans?
Why should you act civil when people spread lies and propaganda, it only encourages them.

pnwmom

(110,254 posts)
15. There are no fascists here. But there are plenty of name-callers. n/t
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:30 PM
Aug 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. This has been worse than the Occupy heyday.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:40 PM
Aug 2013

"You're either with us or against us!"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. Oh, that's rich
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:48 PM
Aug 2013


I'm really having a hard time telling snark from serious lately, I totally hacked someone off the other day because I thought they were joking and went along with the joke then they thought I was making fun of them.







 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. Happens to all of us.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:35 PM
Aug 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
[/center][/font][hr]

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. I know
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:02 PM
Aug 2013

It's been disappointing to find very few threads worth reading lately.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. It's like the old joke about the new prisoner
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:44 PM
Aug 2013

Anyone who's been here for a while has heard all the arguments and gone through the minutia of each of them, now we're just shouting argument numbers at each other.


A man is sent to prison for the first time. At night, the lights in the cell block are turned off, and his cellmate goes over to the bars and yells, "Number twelve!" The whole cell block breaks out laughing. A few minutes later, somebody else in the cell block yells, "Number four!" Again, the whole cell bloock breaks out laughing.

The new guy asks his cellmate what's going on. "Well," says the older prisoner, "we've all been in this here prison for so long, we all know the same jokes. So we just yell out the number instead of saying the whole joke."

So the new guy walks up to the bars and yells, "Number six!" There was dead silence in the cell block. He asks the older prisoner, "What's wrong? Why didn't I get any laughs?"

"Well," said the older man, "sometimes it's not the joke, but how you tell it."
 

Lugal Zaggesi

(366 posts)
12. Number four
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:14 PM
Aug 2013

always makes me chuckle.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
10. "Hater!" "Racist!" "Firebagger!" "You just want a pony that farts glitter!"
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:04 PM
Aug 2013

Tell the people who use those words, will ya?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
11. It was a general observation
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:08 PM
Aug 2013

The first time I noticed it was when the response to something I posted included "we" and "the rest of us." I find the creative naming to be a little immature.

jazzimov

(1,456 posts)
13. Interesting. I'm here almost every night
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:21 PM
Aug 2013

and I've NEVER seen those terms applied. Perhaps they are so rare that I have missed them.

I'm sure that you are willing to supply a link?

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. Here's "Obama Hater" for you
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:32 PM
Aug 2013

pnwmom

(110,254 posts)
14. The worst of the name-callers are not Democrats
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:28 PM
Aug 2013

but other progressives whose goal is to tear the Democratic party down and replace it with a third, purer, party.

Except for the ones who aren't progressives at all.

pacalo

(24,856 posts)
18. Locking, per consensus of GD hosts that it is Meta.
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 11:57 PM
Aug 2013
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