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Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
Tue Aug 13, 2013, 11:51 PM Aug 2013

Will someone PLEASE show me in "Obamacare" that it says..

People who go to file taxes and does not have health insurance MUST pay $3,000 to the IRS or will go directly to jail for 3 years??

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Will someone PLEASE show me in "Obamacare" that it says.. (Original Post) Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 OP
No Egnever Aug 2013 #1
This stuff is going around all over! Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 #4
No one can, because it's not in there. nt jazzimov Aug 2013 #2
I have no clue why people belive it is! Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 #6
I heard it was more like $700. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #3
Here's your answer. M0rpheus Aug 2013 #5
What is the FLP? Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 #7
It should be 'FPL' - Federal Poverty Level. PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #9
Thank you! Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 #12
federal poverty level (FPL). nt. M0rpheus Aug 2013 #11
It's entirely believable even though untrue Fumesucker Aug 2013 #8
And who said that was in there, exactly? /nt Marr Aug 2013 #10
There isn't much teeth in the enforcement indie9197 Aug 2013 #13
It is amazing how many people believe the $3000 or jail time story that is going around. Lady Freedom Returns Aug 2013 #14
because, like other untrue things they believe, it fits their world view eShirl Aug 2013 #16
It's not in there. Yet. And that last word is the key... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #15
If not for the republicans in congress, we B Calm Aug 2013 #17

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
4. This stuff is going around all over!
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:03 AM
Aug 2013

I have no clue who/where people are getting it! I have heard people say "My friend got hit by this and now they can't pay and will go to jail!" all over.

It is nerve racking and I have no way to get them to listen to me. They rather listen to FOX.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
6. I have no clue why people belive it is!
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:09 AM
Aug 2013

All I have heard is this bull everywhere since I got back to MO. I guess Fox is really spreading it thick!

M0rpheus

(885 posts)
5. Here's your answer.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:04 AM
Aug 2013
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-tax-penalty.php

How the ObamaCare Tax Penalty Works

Your tax penalty for not having insurance is paid on your taxes at the end of the year. If your taxable income is below 133% of the FLP you are exempt from this tax.

2014 = $95 per person per year or 1% of your Income
2015 = $325 per person per yearor 2% of your Income
2016 = $695 per person per yearor 2.5% of your Income
2017= Tax Penalty will increase by the rate of inflation going forward, or 2.5% of your Income

The total penalty for the taxable year cannot exceed the national average of the annual premiums of a bronze-level health insurance plan offered through the health insurance marketplaces.

Health insurance plans will provide proof of coverage for their customers.

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
12. Thank you!
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:26 AM
Aug 2013

Now I can inform my sister and get her to stop worrying! and I can also use this to try and correct some of the thinking around here!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. It's entirely believable even though untrue
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:15 AM
Aug 2013

That's the way American society works, far more stick than carrot, we are the world leaders in punitive imprisonment.

Lots of Americans are terrified of the IRS and getting audited.

The administration has depended on the fairness and accuracy of the M$M to get the word out on the details of PPACA, in retrospect that seems to have been a tactical error at best.



indie9197

(509 posts)
13. There isn't much teeth in the enforcement
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 12:58 AM
Aug 2013

of the penalties. The IRS is not allowed to use their usual methods. If you don't get insurance they can subtract the penalties from a future federal tax refund. However, for low income filers they sre not even allowed to do that.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/07/03/some-tax-few-will-face-obamacare-uninsured-penalty-and-irs-hamstrung-to-collect/

Lady Freedom Returns

(14,198 posts)
14. It is amazing how many people believe the $3000 or jail time story that is going around.
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 01:57 AM
Aug 2013

I have no idea why they want to set back and believe it instead of find the facts.

eShirl

(20,315 posts)
16. because, like other untrue things they believe, it fits their world view
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 02:17 AM
Aug 2013

see: "abstinence education is effective against premarital sex/pregnancy," "torture is an effective technique of interrogation," etc

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
15. It's not in there. Yet. And that last word is the key...
Wed Aug 14, 2013, 02:16 AM
Aug 2013

You don't have to buy books for your kids. You don't have to own a car or a refridgerator. You don't have to even buy food for yourself, you can legally starve if you like. But you damn well do have to buy insurance from the companies currently fucking the American people over.

It doesn't matter if you want it or cannot afford it. It doesn't matter how worthless it is or how little it pays out. It doesn't matter how bad the company treats you or how little they do to earn your business. It doesn't even matter if the policy never pays out a single claim. None of that matters because thanks to Obamacare YOU STILL HAVE TO BUY IT. It's the law.

Now right now there are few (if any) penalties and a whole bunch of promises about how awesome this rape is going to be. But know this, the penalties are not going to remain non-existent. Unless it's repealed.

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