Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
44 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
When Did You Choose to Be Straight? (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Aug 2013 OP
That was really good, K n R!...nt GReedDiamond Aug 2013 #1
When, as a boy, I saw Linda Carter as Wonder Woman Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #2
yep, me too. d_r Aug 2013 #30
Great video. Thanks for posting... Agschmid Aug 2013 #3
One of the few contemporary ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #10
If nothing else, got them to think on it Scootaloo Aug 2013 #4
I'll tell you something good to choose.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #5
Very simple question to make people think. William769 Aug 2013 #6
Excellent, thank you. Several epiphany moments, in real time. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #7
K&R! I've seen this before and it's absolutely terrific! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #8
Captain Von Trapp in "The Sound of Music" applegrove Aug 2013 #9
Hate to break this to you, but Niel Boortz said this in the early '90s, late '80s. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #11
My brother and I were having a discussion ohheckyeah Aug 2013 #12
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #13
I didn't mwrguy Aug 2013 #14
I wonder how many people with a strong opinion on this matter never even thought to RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #15
. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #16
Hot Diggity-Dog! Like this a LOT! Such a terrific question! calimary Aug 2013 #17
Funny, I must be a weirdo Hydra Aug 2013 #18
Excellent point LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #19
July 12, 1979. KamaAina Aug 2013 #20
1970 ileus Aug 2013 #21
Sometime as a kid I guess. My mother had a story. Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #22
Well, you see, ladyVet Aug 2013 #23
~ 4th grade, my mother gave me a choice...dudes stank, girls didn't uponit7771 Aug 2013 #24
It's impossible to choose attraction. The brain doesn't work that way. Rex Aug 2013 #25
Sheena of the Jungle's skimpy outfit in the comic books gave me a.....clue. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #26
Is "straight" still the proper term? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #27
What does cis stand for? Rex Aug 2013 #28
Latin for "on this side of" Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #29
Okay thanks! Rex Aug 2013 #32
i tried 'choosing' to be straight....it never took. nt xchrom Aug 2013 #31
about 12 Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #33
In the womb. nt riqster Aug 2013 #34
In High School....it didn't stick! Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #35
Great vid! CrispyQ Aug 2013 #36
when committing to a monogamous relationship with my current partner Matariki Aug 2013 #37
When I lived in Miami, I had many lesbian and gay friends and co-workers. RebelOne Aug 2013 #38
I've wondered about that loyalsister Aug 2013 #39
This doesn't work on the true bigots / evangelicals. yodermon Aug 2013 #40
I found my Dad's stash of Playboys when I was a wee lad and realized that something WCGreen Aug 2013 #41
I found my Dad's stash too...I was interested in the articles! Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #42
One of the most interesting things about this video... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #43
Why do people think this line of "reasoning" is a coup? Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #44

Rhiannon12866

(255,159 posts)
8. K&R! I've seen this before and it's absolutely terrific!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:32 AM
Aug 2013

Deserves to be on The Greatest Page! Thanks for posting!

applegrove

(132,096 posts)
9. Captain Von Trapp in "The Sound of Music"
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:37 AM
Aug 2013

was one of my earliest crushes. I totally saw myself as Maria the wayward nun.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
12. My brother and I were having a discussion
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:48 AM
Aug 2013

about homosexuality. I asked him this question and this one simple question changed his whole perspective. Over a period of a couple of months he went from being homophobic to supporting gay marriage.

There is amazing power in making a person THINK.

Thanks for sharing.

RedCappedBandit

(5,514 posts)
15. I wonder how many people with a strong opinion on this matter never even thought to
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:13 AM
Aug 2013

ask themselves this simple question.


calimary

(89,950 posts)
17. Hot Diggity-Dog! Like this a LOT! Such a terrific question!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:19 AM
Aug 2013

Just really turns the mind on its ear. Really provokes a serious adjustment in one's thinking. "Well, when you put it that way..." GREAT stuff!!! When people really THINK, take time to THINK, seems to me they tend to make wiser choices. 'Cause they're more analytical and objective than worked-up and frenzied about it. It puts a straight person smack-dab in the heart of the matter and lets him/her see things differently - from a gay person's point of view. We straights are never asked this question. It's just not an issue. So I imagine that makes it harder for some to wrap their brains around, when it's not something you deal with as basic and over-arching part of who you are. Certainly broadens the perspective!

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
18. Funny, I must be a weirdo
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

When the meme started that people choose to be gay, I was like "You choose what you're attracted too? Never worked that way for me..."

 

LordGlenconner

(1,348 posts)
19. Excellent point
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 02:40 PM
Aug 2013

And one I started using several years ago whenever the "choice to be gay" canard came up, usually by an evangelical. It's a real "mind fucker" for some of those folks.

To take it a step further, since they believe homosexuality is the product of an environment or choice, I like to ask how much convincing it would take for them to perform oral sex on another man or woman, since, you know, our sexuality can be shaped and altered with words, at least in their eyes.

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
22. Sometime as a kid I guess. My mother had a story.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:27 PM
Aug 2013

I liked my silky security blanket when I was a kid.

Took it everywhere.

One day in New York. Mom took me to Macys for the xmas sales rush. We didnt take my blanket.

In the rush and crush of the crowd she briefly lost hold of me.

Panicked she started looking, when she heard a scream.

She looked and I was next to a young lady in a skirt, my hands on her silk stockinged legs, running my hands up and down (I was six). The lady was looking at my mom like she had raised a small pervert. Mom was highly embrasassed.

Evidently her legs made a good replacement for my silk blanket.

And I've always liked women in stockings for some reason...

ladyVet

(1,587 posts)
23. Well, you see,
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:34 PM
Aug 2013

when a mommy cell and a daddy cell get together and make a baby cell...

I don't remember actually "deciding" any such thing. I was just born this way. Some people are born another way, which is none of my business.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
25. It's impossible to choose attraction. The brain doesn't work that way.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 03:40 PM
Aug 2013

Just like it is impossible to avoid being attracted to someone as well. Either ya are or yer not.

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
35. In High School....it didn't stick!
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:05 PM
Aug 2013

As Popeye says, "I yam, what I yam, and that's all I yam!"

Though I hate yams, I prefer pickles!

Wait, did I really say that?!

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
37. when committing to a monogamous relationship with my current partner
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:20 PM
Aug 2013

such is the difficult road we bisexuals tread. thnx in advance for your pity and compassion.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
38. When I lived in Miami, I had many lesbian and gay friends and co-workers.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:59 PM
Aug 2013

And they all said that even as children they were attracted to the same sex. But what I did notice was that many of the males had close relationships with their mothers.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
39. I've wondered about that
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:38 PM
Aug 2013

I have thought that maybe if I had a choice I would not have chosen the frustration of hetero relationships. I like boys, but as we all know, it is often difficult to find common ground with the opposite sex.

yodermon

(6,153 posts)
40. This doesn't work on the true bigots / evangelicals.
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:05 AM
Aug 2013

Their logic of course is that ALL people are born straight, and the gays are just sinning.

The peeps in this vid seem to be average folks having the heteronormative scales fall from their eyes. Whoever made the vid could have easily edited out any rabid fundies he encountered.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
41. I found my Dad's stash of Playboys when I was a wee lad and realized that something
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:09 AM
Aug 2013

wonderful happened with my wee lad...

Behind the Aegis

(56,104 posts)
42. I found my Dad's stash too...I was interested in the articles!
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:33 AM
Aug 2013

Thank G-d for Penthouse, they sometimes had dudes!

 

Demo_Chris

(6,234 posts)
43. One of the most interesting things about this video...
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 01:47 AM
Aug 2013

Is how quickly these people reacted to the question and reconsidered their earlier answers.

The question itself is interesting. Anyone who concludes that gays choose to be what they are is obviously looking at it as a behavior rather than an attribute. They would have to believe that gays are not REALLY gay, they are just straight people acting out or with some kind of mental disorder. But the speed with which these people reversed themselves suggests that most of them had not really given the matter a great deal of thought, they did not really believe what they were saying, nor were any of them seemingly bothered by the challenge to their own beliefs the challenge presented.

The country is changing. Even in the deep south the attitude towards gays is shifting towards indifference. I have seen this myself very clearly over the last half dozen years.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
44. Why do people think this line of "reasoning" is a coup?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 03:36 AM
Aug 2013

It is trivial to prove that, for at least some people, sexual orientation is not a choice.

This does not provide any evidence one way or another as to whether or not there exist people for whom it is.
Latest Discussions»General Discussion»When Did You Choose to Be...