Check in if you DO NOT support Rand Paul

[East Coast Pirate]

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I don't.

[ZombieHorde]

1. I strongly agree with his anti-war stance, but not his social policies.

Am I a supporter?

[liberal_at_heart]

4. I am anti-war and pro-marijuana legalization. Oh, and I support Snowden.

I guess to some I would be considered a supporter of Paul, but then again I don't give a damn what anybody thinks of me.

[arely staircase]

29. I am pro-medicare, pro-social security, pro-public education

pro-environmental protection, pro-SCHIP, pro-Union.

So Rand Paul can kiss my liberal ass.

[GentryDixon]

60. Well said. n/t

[StopTheNeoCons]

79. Double well said...nt

[Champion Jack]

91. make that a triple

[mbperrin]

144. Better be a quad.

Thanks

[SleeplessinSoCal]

163. me too.

[tosh]

182. Add another.

[reusrename]

218. Yes, permanent war and a prison state are the price we must pay.

If we want medicare, social security, public education, environmental protection, SCHIP, and labor unions, then of course we must also have eternal wars on drugs and terror, together with drone strikes and permanent detention without trials. And it's all because some minds are just too small to see a world that is better than the one we are creating.

[arely staircase]

220. I disagree. nt

[reusrename]

225. Then I guess you support Rand Paul.

How unfortunate.

[arely staircase]

227. No, I support President Obama. Rand Paul and the thing on his head are laughable. nt

[reusrename]

242. But, but, but...

those are Rand Paul policies that directly conflict with Obama policies.

You're just kidding yourself about supporting Obama.

You don't REALLY support him.

[Rockyj]

232. Me Too!

Pro-Civil Rights too!

[pnwmom]

236. All that and pro-Obamacare, pro-choice, pro-marriage equality, pro Dream Act. n/t

[arely staircase]

240. +1 nt

[MindMover]

217. Libertarians .... just another word for

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[Doctor_J]

235. hey you stole my Sig and made it a post

[Ohio Joe]

6. You should look closer at them...

He is not anti-war, he is anti-US-Troops-Involved. His isolationist policies don't allow for that... His pro-Let-Business-Do-Anything policy though, would allow business to take up the war slack and hire private armies to go take what they want with the isolationism preventing our government from stopping them.

It is similar to his supposed pro-pot views... They are not pro-legalization of pot, it is really a pro-allow-drug-companies-to-put-out-whatever-shit-they-feel-like-and-claim-anything-about-it-...-oh-and-lets-get-rid-of-the-FDA policie

Fuck the pauls.

[BenzoDia]

137. Yep yep, him and his father both want to use private armies. Blackwater is the first thing to pop

in mind.

[calimary]

146. He's not to be trusted simply because he believes, basically, that less government is good but

NO government is even better. And believe me, he would not have external forces butting out of your private life, either. Remember: he's a republi-CON. The worst kind - a teabagger republi-CON. Women's rights wouldn't be any safer. He wouldn't be sympathetic to civil rights, immigration rights and reforms, consumer safety would go to hell, consumer protection would go to hell, and you think Wall Street runs amok now? Wait til somebody like the Kentucky Pipsqueak gets in and does everything he can to dismantle what meager safeguards and minimum standards and safety nets we still have left! Wait til it's someone of his mentality who's picking Supreme Court justices.

UGH!!!!! And this is the crackpot to whom Medea Benjamin hand-delivers home-made valentines? Sweet God in Heaven...

[Progressive dog]

43. He wants to spend more on the military,

but claims to be anti-war. You just might be a supporter, since you believe he is anti-war.

[paleotn]

224. ie. he's full of horse excrement.

[merrily]

172. Anti war policy has to based on something more than "I hate federal taxes."

Best I can discern, that is the basis of Ron and Rand's foreign policy.

[heaven05]

201. YEP!

All of his 'stances' are tied to his racist Tea Party ideology. What do you say? Just a question. I'm anti-war, but that has nothing to do with this racist POS or his party's racist, klan based ideology.

[paleotn]

223. Are you a supporter of broken clocks? (nt)

[ZombieHorde]

226. Yes, but only twice a day. nt

[dionysus]

2. me neither. fuck the pauls and snowwald. nt

[East Coast Pirate]

3. No need to support Snowden either.

The cat is already out of the bag.

[heaven05]

202. +1000

ANY tea party member, admirer or sympathizer is a racist POS, hidden or in the open. Period.

[Fearless]

5. Talking Point: Don't like the way the message is going, attack the messenger.

Heard. Loud and clear.

[East Coast Pirate]

8. There are a few libertarians who post here

but almost all of the people who appose the NSA, drone strikes, Larry Summers, etc are staunch liberals, not Paulites.

[Mojorabbit]

49. + a gazillion. nt

[HoneychildMooseMoss]

155. It's the old guilt-by-association mind trip

Too many people here seem to take the stance that "the Pauls don't like surveillance of ordinary citizens, ergo, if you don't like surveillance of ordinary citizens, you're a 'paulbot' or a 'paulite'" or whatever, ad nauseum. But when one mentions that nearly the entire Bush cabal supports this crap, they seem to turn a deaf ear.

I have always voted for the most liberal candidate in every election since 1980. And all this surveillance really bugs me. Politics makes strange bedfellows sometimes. This is one of those times.

[TalkingDog]

185. Thank you. We're not the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny. Liberal Libertarians actually exist.

nt

[East Coast Pirate]

194. Liberal libertarian?

[TalkingDog]

219. Edumacate yo'sef.

On the political spectrum there are 2 axis which intersect.

X axis: Libertarian to Authoritarian and
Y axis: Left to Right



Gandhi and Nelson Mandela fall to the Libertarian Left (or liberal libertarianism)




I fall in between Gandhi and Mandela and I am perfectly happy there, thanks.


Edited to add linky: http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

[East Coast Pirate]

231. This is a discussion forum.

You're entitled to your opinion as long as you don't run afowl of the admins.

[TalkingDog]

241. BAHAHAAAAA!!!! Thanks. Having been a member in good standing for over 12 years

I always appreciate a relative newb 'splainin' "IT" to me.

Tell me, oh knower of things, what else should I be aware of?

[East Coast Pirate]

244. Didn't bother to look up how long you'd been here.

But I WAS right. The admins don't 86 you unless you become a problem for them.

[TalkingDog]

243. Although I'm unsure what you mean by "afowl"

Am I getting close?



Or maybe

[East Coast Pirate]

246. Pardon me for not jumping for joy that you'd finally shown me the light.

I've been posting on political discussion forums since the mid 90s.



Oh stop it, please, you're embarrassing me.

[SamKnause]

7. Not full support

I agree with Ron Paul on the following;

anti warmongering and empire building
closing military bases
ending the war on drugs
getting rid of the Patriot Act and the spy complex

I disagree with Ron Paul on the following because I am;

pro union
pro equality
pro minimum wage and equal pay for women
pro marriage equality
pro Social Security
pro Medicaid and Medicare
pro corporate tax increases
pro closing corporate tax loopholes
pro stopping subsidies for big energy
pro strict regulation for corporations
pro public schools
pro choice and easily available birth control
pro health care for all
pro unemployment
pro food stamps
pro ending Citizens United
pro voting rights

Does this qualify me as a Ron Paul supporter ?????

[East Coast Pirate]

11. That pretty much sums it up

but won't stop them from calling you a Paulite.

[HangOnKids]

153. Is there any reason you signed up back in May 2012 but just started posting now?

I hope there wasn't a family emergency or something?

[East Coast Pirate]

166. No

but thanks for asking.

[Whisp]

13. ron paul is pro equality?

o my.

I couldn't read past that one.

You mean the kind of equality of: Everyone for Him/Herself kind? Where no civil rights exist and if a business wants to exclude black people from their premises, then that's just fine... that kind of equality?

puke bucket, come here.

[SamKnause]

17. Reply

You misread, or did not understand my post.

Please reread.

[Whisp]

20. Sorry, Sam. I did misread. :blush: n/t

[SamKnause]

21. Reply

That is okay.

Happens to the best of us.

[FarPoint]

59. Who sold you that line of malarkie?

[burnodo]

9. Truly a bullshit thread

[liberal_at_heart]

12. definitely a flame bait thread. That's what the trash can is for.

[East Coast Pirate]

19. I don't see anyone flaming except you two.

I see people evplaining that they DO NOT support Rand and Ron Paul.

[East Coast Pirate]

14. How so?

[burnodo]

16. You need it explained to you?

[otohara]

69. Explain Please

don't be shy!

[burnodo]

90. The OP completely changed the thread

explanation enough!

[East Coast Pirate]

92. I changed it to illiminate the distraction of a few people calling it flamebate.

My point is still the same. Very few Paul supporters on DU.

[burnodo]

93. Ok, let's review

Your original thread was titled "check in if you support RON Paul" and your immediate response to your own headline was "I don't" Then you completely changed the thread by replacing "support Ron Paul" to "DO NOT support Rand Paul". As you can see, the meaning changed completely.

[East Coast Pirate]

105. OK, last word Charlie.

Have it your way.

[burnodo]

108. You're disputing the facts?

You know, edits are easily researched.

[burnodo]

109. Here you go, Charlie

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[East Coast Pirate]

118. I'm guilty! GUILTY!

I killed em all and I enjoyed it ha ha!

[bvar22]

230. You gotta admit that it ain't really kosher to ask people to "check in",

...and then go back later and change the premise for which you asked people to "check in".

[East Coast Pirate]

234. True.

But I changed it early on, and not for malicious reasons. I was being accused of posting a flamebate OP and changed it for that reason. No one was tricked into saying something they didn't intend to say.

[merrily]

174. No one at DU is going to admit to it, whether they are or not.

On the flip side, posting that you do not support Rand or Ron Paul is not going to convince anyone who suspects you of being a Paulite that you are not a Paulite.

Sorry, dude, this is a pointless exercise.

[East Coast Pirate]

176. True of course.

I'm already sick of this thread.

[arely staircase]

30. well it is about truly bullshit politician nt

[Whisp]

10. lots here do. making all kinds of excuses and forgivenesses

for that bigoted selfish fuck.

[East Coast Pirate]

23. Lots?

I'm not seeing that.

[Whisp]

24. I am. n/t

[G_j]

41. I have seen

people getting accused of supporting him because they happen to be against the current use of drones. I have not actually seen a single post of someone saying they are a Paul supporter.

[Whisp]

42. of course, you can't say that out loud here, it's in the ToS.

but we know there are ways...

[G_j]

48. aha

just as I thought.,,

[East Coast Pirate]

63. Ya, there are ways...

[G_j]

67. it's the fake mustache

gives them away every time..

[Whisp]

96. hehe.

[disidoro01]

94. How

can you support killing thousands of people, some young children? That's sick.

[Whisp]

97. oh, I just did that?

wow, I thought I was working for good and here I was evil...

Thanks for that info!!

[disidoro01]

99. yeah

I'm anti-war and anti-drone so I am a Paulbot.
You, who supports President Obama, must be pro war and pro droning children.
Do you see how this works?

[Whisp]

101. yep

I see how you work.

[disidoro01]

102. There you go

You can't even deny who you are and the platform you support.
I am anti-drone and anti-war. I'll take the arrows of being called a Paulbot. You?

[laundry_queen]

135. That poster is simply reflecting your tactics back to you. nt

[delrem]

151. making it a double reflection.

Reflection like that is a tactic of propaganda. There's been a shitload of propaganda suggesting that if one is opposed to "Total Information Awareness" programs, then one supports Ron/Rand Paul.

Go figure.

[Quantess]

189. Yes, according to your own definition.

Anyone who agrees with Ron Paul on anything is a Ron Paul lover.
That must mean that you diametrically oppose all of Ron Paul's viewpoints. Ergo, you are fan of drones.

[Whisp]

190. such impecable logic you have!

do you yourself hold up to your own standards?

[Quantess]

192. I'm going by your own logic!

You are not a Ron Paul lover, which, by your own definition, means that you are opposed to everything the man believes in, with every fiber of your being.

Or, have I misunderstood your definition of a Ron Paul fan? Because to me, it sounds like you are saying that agreeing with anything Ron Paul believes = Ron Paul lover.

[Whisp]

195. During the Bush war years, here on DU

did Bush do anything right that people here were defending him, because he was right on one thing, or two or 3 but overall was still a mass murdering imbecile?

I don't recall that to the extent that Ron Paul and his spawn and his evil mind are defended here now. I don't care if he is right about one thing, or two or 3 like maybe Bush might have been, Ron Paul is a bigoted, sexist corporate, racist fucking pig that deserves no respect or defense.

[Quantess]

203. #1 I agree with all of that.

#2 your response was a non-sequitur. Kind of evasive, too.

But if you would like to let it go, I'm more than willing to do so. Just, please know that people are getting really fed up with being called Paulites or libertarians just for defending Snowden's actions, or being appalled by the NSA's overreach, or applauding Glenn Greenwald, or being cynical of the government's spying on regular citizens.

I'm not a fucking libertarian!!!

That's all I really wanted to say.

[Zorra]

213. That's because this whole stupid Paul supporter crap was invented by the MIC supporters.

They have nothing to support their positions so they need to constantly make shit up in a lame attempt to counter the factual arguments of FDR Democrats, who they regard as radical leftists and use the Paul thing as "Name Calling Propaganda" in order to make themselves feel better about their complete lack of substance.

IOW, all their talking points are just a bunch of stupid, baseless, defensive, reactionary bullshit.

I had to put them all on ignore because I couldn't handle their disingenuous, childish, little fabricated name calling games anymore. Now I no longer waste my time facepalming in disbelief at the utterly senseless juvenile absurdities being posted here on a daily basis nowadays.

There's enough factless, disingenuous bullshit to deal with from conservatives in real life, I certainly don't want to wade through any of it here on this what has become a quasi-progressive website as well.

[Comrade Grumpy]

15. Isn't Ron Paul retired?

[East Coast Pirate]

22. Fixed.

[Douglas Carpenter]

18. I agreed with Ron Paul when South Carolinians Republicans booed him and the golden rule

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but I don't agree with him on many other things and I think Rand is more of a crass opportunist than an ideologue like his father

[olddots]

25. I think above all he is Mahhhhhhhhhhhhvelous looking

just like his daddy ,they have those dreamy beady eyes and Randy's wavy hair is so hot !!!!!!!!

[hrmjustin]

26. I do not support Rand Paul in anyway shape or form.

I find him to be a little man who thinks he is something, He is nothing to write home about.

[DinahMoeHum]

27. The guy's a phony baloney.

So is his dad.

[appleannie1]

28. I don't. His social policies suck.

[Initech]

31. The words "fucking moron" don't begin to accurately describe that man.

[Thinkingabout]

32. Rand Paul does not control of his mouth or his mind, must think he is slays speaking to his

Libertarian buddies and has not found out most in the USA does not like him or his platform. His friends and supporters needs to return to the libertarian sites to echo themselves.

[MrSlayer]

33. Rand Paul is a fucking asshole.

Just because he happens to be right about a couple of things doesn't make him less so.

[DonCoquixote]

34. I don't

Just because he is right on war does not mean I want that man anywhere near government, because he will declare war on whatever parts of it serve us.

[PowerToThePeople]

35. Bait & switch? I do not. n/t

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

36. Hell no!

[bluedigger]

37. Fuck Rand Paul! n/t

[irisblue]

65. ^^^^^THIS^^^^^

geez.....a cut rate dynasty in the making.

[Fire Walk With Me]

38. (Ayn) Rand Paul? No fucking way. Him or his racist, homophobic, misogynist father. n/t

[Savannahmann]

39. Oh good, another Loyalty Test.

Get the litmus paper gang, it's time to find out what color you really are.

[East Coast Pirate]

46. My OP is in response to DUers being labeled Paulbots

for apposing what is happening at the NSA.

[Union Scribe]

89. But as you can see

the people who throw labels like that around don't really give a shit about reality. They know damn well no one here is really a "Paulbot" but they'll use any slur they can to avoid the ugly truth about the NSA.

[OnionPatch]

248. Being called a Paulbot is almost as degrading

As being spied on by the government.

[NuclearDem]

40. I don't.

But I don't knee jerk when it seems the LP agrees with me on social and civil rights issues, especially when a socialist with civil libertarian leanings tends to fall in the same category.

Maybe we wouldn't have to find ourselves in the Rand Paul camp if an actual Democrat would be the one filibustering civil liberties violations.

[burnodo]

44. Very good

Now that the fundamentals of your original post have changed it's not a bullshit thread. So, now, Whatever particular point I might agree with Rand Paul on, I do not support Rand Paul is a fucking right wing republican teabagger fucked up moron

[etherealtruth]

45. A broken clock is right twice a day.

that is how I feel about Rand Paul

[xchrom]

47. R&R Paul - on the surface - have 'agreed' with

Some of us old hippie types.

Not the other way around - the way fucked up Centrist Dems want to portray it.

The Left is & has always been anti-war, skeptical of establishment assertions, skeptical of monied interests, etc.

[NightWatcher]

50. Shouldn't this go without saying here?

Derp

[sakabatou]

51. Paul can just go to hell

[NoOneMan]

52. Why would anyone here "support" him?

Is that like "supporting the troops"? Or something tangible like giving him money?

Though, I appreciate his partial sanity in regards to foreign intervention and domestic spying, which is missing from many on the left.

[Spirochete]

53. Who?

Oh, that handjob. No, I don't support him. Only advantage of being poor - I don't support his teabagger ass with taxes either.

[bravenak]

54. Me neither.

He desecrated aqua Buddha.

[BootinUp]

55. Real controversial subject

[tridim]

56. I support Democrats. :)

I don't support crazy people.

[BumRushDaShow]

57. Wow. Enlightening with respect to DU.

Fuck Ron Paul's evil spawn.

[Jazzgirl]

58. Who is he?

[Cha]

61. Who the fuck would.. except teabagger idiiots and

oh yeah, asshat.

[Fuddnik]

62. Fuck all the Pauls! Except Peter Paul.

They make Almond Joys and Mounds!


Viva Snowden, Greenwald, Chomsky, and Ellsberg!

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. I fear I will have to cover a Rand Paul Rally

If he runs in 2016... It's politics...that's what we do.

Oh you mean vote for him? While I agree with him 15% of the time, even less than his father...that does not mean I will vote for him.

This is an alien concept to some here.

[Egalitarian Thug]

66. 2 here

[alfredo]

68. Paul is a regressive.

[LadyHawkAZ]

70. Fuck Rand Paul

and Fuck Ron Paul too.

[Nine]

71. .

I don't either.

[Little Star]

72. F**k Rand Paul and anyone who supports his republican ass!....

I know he tries to be both a Libertarian & a Republican but he is registered Republican. Screw him, he's a nut anyway! So is his father!

[uponit7771]

73. **********LOFL!! THIS POST SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST A HUNDRED RECS**************

DU = full of fudr no doubt

[leftstreet]

107. Most DUers recognize it as flypaper flamebait bullshit

I haven't seen DUers 'supporting' either of the Pauls



It's the GOPers who need to worry about Rand Paul, not the Democrats

[joshcryer]

160. Yet it's not vague cheeky BS.

It's up front, simple.

Rand Paul would easily get a lot of twenty-thirty somthing votes over his faux anti-war and anti-NSA stance.

The vote breakdown in the primaries for Ron Paul was pretty clear where their intentions and concerns for America lay.

[atreides1]

74. I don't

And all of his supposed anti-war crap is nothing more then a PR stunt to gain the support of those who are anti-war!

Those that actually believe anything that spews from his mouth, need to have their heads examined!

[tiredtoo]

75. I do not support Rand Paul or his Dad but,

They do have a following amongst some college students. They seem to be getting just half the story.

[CrispyQ]

76. Are DUer's actually advocating for Rand Paul?

[cpwm17]

117. No. n/t

[LWolf]

77. Fuck.

I don't support Rand Paul.

I may agree with him on some issues. I am anti-war; more anti-war than he is. He's okay on civil liberties, at least on his opposition to the Patriot Act. He is terribly wrong on most other issues.

I FUCKING CARE MORE ABOUT ISSUES THAN I DO PARTIES AND PERSONALITIES.

Agreeing with someone on an individual issue is not the same as supporting their political agenda as a whole, or their political career aspirations.

I'll oppose anyone, regardless of party or position, who takes the wrong position on issues. I'll support the work individual politicians do to further economic and social justice, regardless of their party affiliations.

I don't support anyone based solely on party affiliation and/or speeches.

Why are you so upset about Rand Paul? Is he somehow more special than any other politician, or do you need to sort politicians into "us" and "them" to feel secure? Is there no flexibility, or nuance, in your political ideology?

Has there been some sort of campaign on DU to support Rand Paul?

[ruffburr]

78. Another teabag nut job espousing -

hate and his only reason he is against war ( As I am) is he wants to keep that money for his pockets and those "others" of his ilk. Definitely NOT any type of saviour of america.

[Kelvin Mace]

80. why anyone would be on this board

if they did is beyond me. Unless they were trolling.

[Demo_Chris]

81. I admire his dad for a few things, but Rand is a piece of %$^#

I agreed with his dad on some issues and I admired his willingness to consistently follow his convictions -- including those I disagree with personally. I have long felt that he is one of a very few Presidential hopefuls who might have actually tried to follow through on his promises (I once listed President Obama in this category as well).

Rand, however, seems to me to be nothing more than an opportunist riding his father's coat tails.

[rurallib]

82. I do not support Ron Paul, Randy Paul nor Paul the Apostle

who fucked up christianity.

[rl6214]

83. I don't think you will find any/many supporters here.

[Quantess]

84. Rand Paul is a tool

He gets no support from me.

[demwing]

85. Oh cool, a Fuck Rand Paul thread!

FUCK RAND PAUL!

[nyquil_man]

86. I don't support stopped clocks, either,

although I will acknowledge that they're right twice a day.

[nolabear]

87. I don't. He's not able to control what he stirs up.

I have many more reasons but that's the foremost. He rouses a particularly dangerous rabble with no care for how crazy they really can get.

[onethatcares]

88. checkin in.

why in the world would I support that butthole?

[GeorgeGist]

95. quack of all trades.

[Puglover]

98. Check in if

you don't support athletes foot.

[frogmarch]

100. Me support Rand Paul?

HiPointDem posted an article recently that speaks for me: It's Hip! It's Cool! It's Libertarianism!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021055465

[freshwest]

114. Thanks for the link. Just K & R for that great Exiledonline piece.

[SunSeeker]

156. "A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses."

Brilliant piece. Thanks for the link.

The Pauls want servility to the 1%--they think only the 1% should be running things.

[walkerbait41]

103. Checking in

[Peacetrain]

104. Not in this life or the next

[Motown_Johnny]

106. This is gonna be a long thread

[napkinz]

110. who, this guy ...

[jwirr]

111. I do not support him because of his attitude toward the poor and disabled.

[NoPasaran]

112. Fuck Paul Jong Il

[MoonRiver]

113. Seriously, should this even be a question on DU?

For the record, I do NOT support that POS.

[LiberalElite]

115. Never did, never will

[AlinPA]

116. I do not support Rand Paul.

[RedCappedBandit]

119. No liberal supports him or his father

a few coincidental agreeable stances notwithstanding

[kimbutgar]

120. Can't stand the racist liar

He is a hitler clone incarnate. Greg Stilson from Dead Zone like. This is the guy who would round up dissenters. Dangerous evil bigoted man who is scary. So no I would not vote for him under any circumstances.

[mstinamotorcity2]

121. Here we go again n/t

[AZ Progressive]

122. Rand / Ron paul are less dangerous on some things, equally as dangerous as Conservatives on others

And Rand Paul is more a Religious nut so you have insane Religious Right Wing merged with the libertarian extremist stances on economics and gun policy as well as good old conservative approval of social and economic inequality.

[Rex]

123. I would but you might edit it back to 'Check in if you support Rand Paul'.

Hard to trust a pirate! I keeeeed.

[East Coast Pirate]

125. Arrrr

My plan all along...

[Rex]

131. ...

[MFrohike]

124. One thing I do admire about him and his dad

It takes a heroic lack of self-awareness to be a member of a government-protected monopoly who spends his time whining about government "distortions" in the market.

[geek tragedy]

126. Fuck Rand Paul. nt

[1awake]

127. I do!

WAIT!! I thought you were asking who wanted brownies. NVM.

[immoderate]

128. Libertarians, the very best of them, are a joke.

And Rand Paul does nothing for my funny bone.

--imm

[MisterP]

129. I'm against most of his policies

(whether from a George-Burns-esque scamgoblin whose friends are all Nazis, or a NSA/Wall Street flack whose friends are all drones, in one way or another)

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[MNBrewer]

130. Support HIM? No. But sometimes he supports things that I also support

and that's OK.

[99Forever]

132. It's a no brainer.

Even the authoritarians should be able to get it.

[MarianJack]

133. Paul is a teabagger moron!

PEACE!

[relayerbob]

134. A -

Even a broken, obsolete windup clock is right twice a day.

B - The best thing that can happen to us is Assange supporting Paul. That is NOT something his righty friends will appreciate, and it will end up used against him. ARS showed that Snowden is Libertarian too (side note, I've always found that to be an odd way to spell "Anarchist&quot so maybe he'll throw his support to Paul and guarantee that he doesn't win a single GOP primary.

[Deep13]

136. Really? Is there someone here who does?

I don't mean on just the odd issue,but as a candidate?

[Populist_Prole]

138. I hate the bastard with every fiber of my being

Is that checked in enough?

[JEB]

139. Supporting Ron & Rand Paul

is like supporting syphilis and gonorrhea.

[Rebellious Republican]

140. This is just plain STUPID!!!

Go to FR and ask who does not support Elizabeth Warren!!!! What some people will do to get attention here.

[last1standing]

141. What if I helped him up after he tripped on the pavement three years ago?

I only supported him while he regained his balance. Does that make me a Libertarian?

Damnit! I knew I would catch something if I didn't wash my hands right away!

[proReality]

142. I am not a Paul supporter because I am sane. n/t

[Thor_MN]

143. He's steaming mad at dirt...

[AAO]

145. Fuck all the fucking Pauls.

[quakerboy]

147. I could give a flying fuck about Rand Paul

He doesn't figure in my life.

I support a deconstruction of the everlasting war machine.
I support dismantling the domestic spying structure
I support strong protections for whistle blowers
I support upgrading our public schools.
I support the FDA, and increasing its ability to effectively police our food supply
I support the full legalization of Marijuana
I support Medicare, medicaid, and Social security.
I support the 4th amendment.
I support the 1st amendment.
I support a woman's right to choose.
I even support the 2nd amendment.

[Tikki]

148. I would hope everyone here would be checking in here on this post.

Neither him or his flying bat father.




The Tikkis

[COORACPRO]

149. I will not support Rand Pul

Fuck him and the horse he rode in on!

[devils chaplain]

150. I don't support our out of control surveillance state.... or Rand Paul. n/t

[defacto7]

152. Check

I stay as far from RP as possible.

[Mira]

154. Are you the hell kidding me? No

disrespect intended. But is this a trick request?

[SunSeeker]

157. Never have and never will support the Pauls. nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

158. Did he fall down again?

[Nanjing to Seoul]

159. Fuck the Kenturky Rug Doctor (my nickname for him in my weekly Top Ten articles).

[B Calm]

161. Checking in!

[Rain Mcloud]

162. Randy is the GOP's Great White Dope!

or just the next shiny stone to mesmerize the simian base.
I wish Hillary would get off the fence and toss her Jaquelin Kennedy Onassis hat in the ring.
Ah,savor the sweet sounds of the implosions inside the vacuous skull cavities of the religious right,reminds me of champagne corks popping!
Let's Party!

[B Calm]

164. His hairdo gives him away.

[LostOne4Ever]

165. I don't support any Right winger

ESPECIALLY lying hypocrites like the Pauls.

[Kablooie]

167. Someone supports Rand Paul?

You may agree with some of his ideas without supporting him.
It would be a disaster for the world if he won the presidency.

[another_liberal]

168. Rand Paul is in favor of whatever is good for the wealthy . . .

He is against anything which might cause wealthy people to have to pay something like their fair share of taxes. His efforts at self-promotion always fall into those two categories. He is a fairly charismatic public speaker, but he often misspeaks when he wanders into areas where he was not sufficiently briefed by the Heritage Foundation.

[quaker bill]

169. here

[blkmusclmachine]

170. Republican. 'Nuff said.

[merrily]

171. I don't support Paul at all (either of them), but I don't understand the point of this thread.

[East Coast Pirate]

181. Lots of good reasons not to support him.

[Quantess]

198. I'll explain. It is a bullying tactic.

Calling people Ron Paul fans, Ron Paulites, Ron Paul lovers, libertarians, etc is an attempt to ridicule those of us who think the NSA is overreaching.

Say something supportive about Ed Snowden, and prepare to be called a Ron Paul worshipper. Think Glenn Greenwald makes some valid points? Bullies here call that being a "Paulite".

The thread is here because people are sick of being insulted, sick of being called Paulites or libertarians, just because we're not delighted with the NSA's behavior.

[Pakid]

173. The man is an idiot

and that is on a good day

[JustAnotherGen]

175. Curb Stomping

And he pals around with terrorist KKK types. Blowing up churches that kill four little girls qualifies as terrorism against black Americans. His buddy boy there is a KKKer and he is a KKKer apologist.

So he's irrelevant unless he runs in 2016 - and that should awaken the giant sleeping beast that is racial minority America.

He can go scratch.

[bluestate10]

177. There is no way I could support a person like Rand Paul, politically or otherwise. nt

[geckosfeet]

178. Check in if you don't support who? Sounds like some hayseed rickshaw driver - Raul Pand

[marble falls]

179. I don't. He's more lalalalala than his dad.

[malthaussen]

180. Support him for what? He says some things I agree with,

... and other things I don't agree with. Mostly the latter.

-- Mal

[OmahaBlueDog]

183. I don't support Rand Paul, Ron Paul, Chris Christie, or Jeb Bush

I'm a Democrat.

[baldguy]

184. Fuck Ron Paul, Rand Paul & all their supporters.

[radiclib]

186. Is everyone having fun here?

I don't support half of what Our President does either.

[IrishAyes]

187. Damn shame such a question NEEDS asking on a dedicated progressive website

But we're neck-deep in trolls, so I guess it bears asking.

No.

[Jack Rabbit]

188. While I often agree with him on civil liberties issues, I don't support him

On other issues he ranges from just wrong to just silly.

[47of74]

191. F Him

And that ferret on his head too.

[Hayabusa]

193. Screw the whole damn Paul family

[heaven05]

197. He

is a racist POS. How's that!

[AllyCat]

199. I agree with anti-war. But the rest of his garbage does not make up for that position

I do not support him.

[kentuck]

200. I hesitated to click on this thread because...

...it should be a given. No one on DU should entertain such a thought.

[LongTomH]

204. I do NOT support Ron Paul on any level!

[Ian David]

205. Fuck Rand Paul.

http://tinyurl.com/TeaTerror

[cheapdate]

206. I truly despise him.

Even in areas where we agree, his reasons are so f$#cked up that I still utterly despise him.

[broadcaster75201]

207. Libertarianim is chaos. It is anarchy. Who in their right mind can support any of them?

Wanna try out Planet of the Apes? Vote Libertarian. Libertarianism's only end is survival of the fittest. There would be no government to protect the weak. Think it's bad now? Vote for a Paul.

As a Prosecutor, Defense atty and Judge of a little over 25 years, I've seen them all. I represented one particularly heinous individual (serial killer) whose neighbors thought he was THE nicest guy for all the nice and wonderful things he did for them. And he did do some really wonderful things. He just also happened to kill people. Just because you like some of Libertarian's stances does not cover for th horror that would be ushered in if they ever got control of ANYTHING. Think TeaBags filled with steroids. This isn't a buffet. You can't pick some policies and say "oh I love him!" You have to look at the entire body of work. And the body of work for Libertarinaism, and the Paul's specifically, is a dark nightmare.

[RoccoR5955]

208. Never supported him, nor his father.

They are both tools for the corporations.

[NutmegYankee]

209. Fuck Rand Paul!

And fuck his idol Ayn Rand.

[dorksied]

210. Libertarians make me puke. I have a friend who is one and he's slowly losing his "friend" status.

It is hard to be friends with someone who has no social conscience and believes that taxes are theft.

[stillwaiting]

211. Rand Paul agrees with ME on a few issues. A very few issues.

I despise him, and I would do anything to prevent him from obtaining any further power in our country.

When Rand Paul agrees with ME and can help me actually implement things in this country that I want to see happen, I will accept his help on that matter.

I will work very hard against 95% of the things that Rand Paul wants to see happen (probably 100% on economic issues).

[KansDem]

212. Include me in...(nt)

[Pholus]

214. Please define support.

Some here mistake ( or call it what it is...conflate) agreement on one issue with endorsement of the whole package.

Now I am a pleaser and want to these guys them happy but I don't know where Rand stands on Boxers vs. Briefs. I really don't want to wear the wrong underwear lest I inadvertantly support the election of that libertarian bastard!

[LoisB]

215. I certainly do not.

[world wide wally]

216. This conversation is so far out there. As if Rand Paul is the only one opposed to the war. What

about some guys named Bernie Sanders or Alan Grayson.
Get off the Rand Paul crap already!

[mick063]

221. Paul is nothing new except for one caveat.

Repackaged ideas that have been around for decades except he is taking a "peacenik" approach.

Basically fascism without a military branch. What an absurd idea. A political structure doomed because of the failed notion that you can oppress people without force to back it up. If you are going the Fascist route, you better have the domestic military infrastructure to back it up. Check on the current Democratic leadership to see how this is properly done.

[paleotn]

222. Of course not....

.....the vast majority of his ideas are unrealistic and down right nutty. I suppose that simply applies to ALL Libertarians. Sometimes I just want to shake them and yell, "Grow the F up!!"

[Autumn]

228. A great American once said,

Fuck Ron Paul. And I say fuck his little boy too. I also say fuck the NSA and their little toys.

[Cryptoad]

229. I dont like Paul

and I don't like people who do, including the Snowdenites !

[polichick]

233. Rand Paul is crazy but I can't wait to see him and Christie go at it...

for the nomination of that nutbag party.

[99th_Monkey]

237. Not a fan of Rand

though I honestly have always appreciated Ron Paul's advocacy for legalizing
pot & ending the absurd War on Drugs.

[RevStPatrick]

239. I DO NOT support Rand Paul.

I find him creepy and racist and dopey and inconsistent.
Yet, just like every other broken clock on the planet, he is bound to be right every once in a while.
I DO NOT believe that agreeing with someone when they are right is the same thing as "supporting" that person.

Just like... I DO support President Obama.
And he is wrong sometimes.
On some very important things.
I can heartily disagree with him on the things that I believe him to be wrong about, and yet still "support" him.

It amazes me... simply amazes me, how many people around here do not understand this simple concept...

[Blue_In_AK]

245. I don't support him,

but on some issues I agree with his public stances. I'm not a black-and-white, either-or kind of person.

[Demoiselle]

247. I don't.

[HappyMe]

249. I don't support RP in any way.