BiRTHER ALERT: Honestly people need to have a basic understanding of Definitions

[Justice wanted]

Another Birth is at it again, this time in Georgia:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/17/georgia-birther-suit-attempts-to-remove-obama-from-2012-ballot/

Georgia State Representative J. Mark Hatfield (R-Waycross) will plead the case before the Office of State Administrative Hearings on behalf of Mr. Kevin R. Powell of Duluth, Georgia, who filed the suit on the grounds that “Obama does not satisfy the ‘natural born Citizen’ requirement of Article II, Section I, Clause 5 of the United States Constitution. Obama’s father, Barack Obama, Sr., was a native of Kenya and a British subject who never became a United States citizen.”

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How stupid are these people that they don't understand that The PARENTS DO NOT HAVE TO BE AMERICAN CITIZENS BUT THE PERSON RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT DOES!!! ALSO A NATURAL CITIZEN is one of a couple ways.

NOW Please correct me if I am wrong BUT I was always taught that a person became a citizen by

1) Being born on U.S. Soil or Territory. A person who is born in the American Embassy of Whosville is on American soil and therefore an american citizen.

2) IF one of the person's parents is an American citizen they become a natural citizen.


So how does someone born on an american soil to one parent of U.S. citizenship not able to be president.


INSTEAD of spending 5 hours a day teaching kids how to past a test JUST so the school district can get federal funding. JUST MAYBE our schools should be teaching kids important things like logical reasoning and civics and geography and than maybe when these kids go home at night some of these births just might be re-learned the constitution and just basic understanding of how our country works.

2)

[Mz Pip]

1. Kinda throws the whole

anchor baby fuss out the door. Doesn't matter if these kids are born in America. By these idiots' definition they are not citizens.

[Historic NY]

2. Willard's father George was born in Galeana, Chihuahua, Mexico....

[treestar]

20. Really? Then those birther nuts better be just as on this

Or they are racists.

[unblock]

3. oh no! this better not go to trial! if people find out obama's black, we're DOOOMMED!

[doc03]

4. I thought you did have to born on American soil. By that definition would a person that is

born in say Kenya and have one US citizen parent be a natural citizen and be qualified to be President?

[Mnemosyne]

5. You could be born on Mars and if one parent is a US citizen, the child is a citizen.

How fucking hard is that for those morans? n/t

[Ohio Joe]

6. +1 - nt

[jberryhill]

7. Not in 1961

It is academic, but birth abroad to a US parent between successive revisions of the naturalization laws between 1952 and 1986 required the US citizen parent to have lived in the US for 10 years, at least five of which were after the age of 16.

Of course, Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and thus was born a citizen regardless of the citizenship of his parents (unless they were diplomats).

[Justice wanted]

9. Sorry if I am dense today kind of tired. But say I'm 21 years old born in the U.S. and lived in the

U.S. until I was 21 and than moved to Italy to marry a man. I than have a kid haven't given up my U.S. citizenship the kid is American right?

[jberryhill]

10. Yes, that is correct

But what will be fun is when someone asks for Newt's original birth certificate, because it doesn't have his name on it.

[Jim Lane]

13. Minor correction

As of Obama's birth in 1961, I thought that the requirement you stated as "at least five of which were after the age of 16" was "at least five of which were after the age of 14". Obama's mother was 18 when he was born but she didn't miss the cutoff by much, IIRC.

Of course, you're quite right that this doesn't matter in terms of his citizenship. It is, however, important that we not mindlessly repeat "you're a citizen if one of your parents was a citizen." For the reason you state (be it five years after age 14 or after age 16), that wasn't the law in 1961, so we do NOT want to be taking issue with the birthers on that grounds.

[jberryhill]

14. Although ultimately...

...it really doesn't matter, since a birthed who has reached that level of sophistication is truly nuts anyway. Since actually knowing the relevant facts and law is not compatible with being a birther.

[Mnemosyne]

18. Thank you, jberry. I was not aware of that. It all boils down to willful ignorance in the end. n/t

[jberryhill]

19. It made things convenient

...for those families who could afford to send their daughter for "study abroad" if the need arose.

[Historic NY]

23. Your going to complicated things for the birthers they haven't gotten into the space age thing yet..

[krispos42]

8. I want a Constitutional Amendment

[div class=excerpt style=background:#AFEEEE]Amendment XXVIII -

1. All persons within the jurisdiction of the United States who state, in public or in private, verbally or through printed, written, or electronic media, that a person who is a natural-born citizen is not qualified to hold public office for any of the following reasons:
a. one or more parents were not natural born citizens of the United States

b. one or more parents were not naturalized citizens of the United States

shall be corrected by all of the following measures:

c. the words "jus soli" branded on their foreheads, backwards, with a hot branding iron, so that when viewed in the common mirror the wording appears correct to the brandee

d. the generally-accepted dictionary definition of "jus soli" is branded on their lower torso, backwards, with a hot branding iron, so that when viewed in the common mirror the wording appears correct to the brandee

e. all forms of government identification issued by the federal government, all state governments, and all administrative subdivisions therein, will mark the brandee's identifying documents with "BIRTHER" in prominent letters.

f. all persons wishing to marry a brandee shall be required to read and sign a duly notarized document stating that they are aware that the person they are marrying is has been marked and corrected for erroneous understanding of the Constitution as amended.

g. No federal or state legislature or executive, or the legislature or executive of any administrative subdivision of a state, shall make any law preventing the throwing of fruits or vegetables at any person branded in violation of this Amendment, nor of throwing fruits or vegetables at any spouse of any person branded in violation of this Amendment, provided the individual throw items do not exceed 10 kilograms in mass.

h. No federal or state law-enforcement officer, or any law-enforcement officer of any administrative subdivision of a state, shall arrest, detain, harass, or threaten any person performing any actions permitted by section 1.g of this Amendment.

2. Congress shall enforce this law with appropriate legislation

3. Robb is a dingbat.

[jberryhill]

11. I like that

[krispos42]

12. Just think of the jobs it would create! n/t

[Jim Lane]

15. You're a lackey of the corporate establishment.

The evident purpose of this plan is to support Big Agriculture.

I demand that it be reworded to require that all thrown fruits and vegetables be locally grown. Support small farmers!

[hobbit709]

16. 10Kg? That includes the pumpkins in Punkin' Chunking.

Too much branding. a simple "I AM AN IDIOT" should suffice.

[krispos42]

22. Not enough branding

Stupidity should hurt!

[hobbit709]

24. If you get hit by one of those pumpkins fired by an air cannon, it will do more than hurt.

[Gman]

17. The same people that cannot spell "moron" correctly, or who say "unalienable" rights

have decided everyone else is wrong and do not know how to read the constitution and that only they are smart enough to know what a natural born citizen is.

[spanone]

21. racists just don't give up the fight, do they?