Glenn Danzig: My view on Democrats is that they’re fascists disguised as liberals

[KarKar]

Legendary Misfits / Samhain / Danzig vocalist Glenn Danzig recently shared some choice words during an interview with City Pages. Along with speaking about the history of his career, Danzig harnessed his trademark baritone to criticize the now-defunct PMRC, Democrats and President Obama.

Glenn Danzig has been a punk rock icon for over 35 years, fronting some of the most celebrated acts in the history of underground music. The singer spoke about beginnings of Danzig over 25 years ago. “There were a lot of big poofy, poseury hair bands,” begins the vocalist. “And Danzig was just, like, T-shirts with cut-off sleeves. [Laughs] We had no poofy hair. And we were loud, like metal-punk, I guess you would call it. And most people just said, “This is going to be gone in a week.” And here I am 25 years later. It’s great. [Laughs] And all the hair bands are pretty much a joke, so that’s great, too.”

Danzig went on to speak about the PMRC, and organization which gave us the ‘Parental Advisory’ sticker and historic obscenity battles against bands such as Judas Priest and Twisted Sister. “Al Gore wanted to tell people what they could listen to and what they couldn’t, what they could record,” Danzig explains. “It was basically coming down to the idea that he wouldn’t let anybody record any music that he didn’t think you should be doing. There was going to be an organization that would tell you what you could and couldn’t record. And certainly if you couldn’t record it, you couldn’t put it out. It was really fascist.”

The vocalist continues, “My view on Democrats is that they’re fascists disguised as liberals, or liberal moderates. You’re not allowed to say anything that they don’t agree with. You’re not allowed to do anything. Also, the whole Obama, ‘I can kill anybody with a drone with no trial,’ is kind of disturbing. I’m surprised that more people who are supposedly liberal aren’t more disturbed by it. I think whatever Obama does is OK with them, because he’s Obama. It’s bulls–t.”

http://loudwire.com/glenn-danzig-democrats-fascists-disguised-as-liberals/

[BOG PERSON]

1. this is the static age we live in

[roguevalley]

52. well, as a punk 'artist' he is aptly named

[Fozzledick]

2. My view on Republicans is that they’re fascists disguised as racists

and vice versa.

[BOG PERSON]

6. why would fascism have to "disguise" itself as racism?

that's a very poor disguise.

[polichick]

21. Or fascists disguised as real Bible-totin' Amurkins.

[PowerToThePeople]

3. I do not know

whether I should agree, at least as far as establishment dems go - or say "enjoy your stay."

I guess I just said both.

[Bonobo]

4. M view on a large swathe of people that think of themselves as "pragmatic liberals"

is that they are Republicans who were born into Democratic party families.

In other words, they identify themselves as the "Blue Team" --but they have no idea what it means.

NOTE: This is NOT true of all, just many. Oh, and they are NOT hard to figure out. Just find the ones that support policies they would otherwise be against if the other party was in charge.

[PragmaticLiberal]

26. Was that a shot at me?

[johnp3907]

5. Big words from the Tiny Tim of Punk Rock.

[TlalocW]

7. Glenn, momma said knock you out

TlalocW

[thelordofhell]

9. Posted at the same time........lol

I'll take mine down

[KarKar]

18. LOL, violence is funny

when it's against people we don't like. One might call that mentality, well, fascist.

[johnp3907]

24. No.

A fascist mentality would be to yell "FUCK YOU, MOTHERFUCKER!!!" and then physically assault a person you're arguing with.

[zappaman]

20. I was gonna post that too!

[LuvLoogie]

10. Yeah! Go!

[thelordofhell]

12. Mother

[OnyxCollie]

121. I really love this song.

I play it loudly in my car w/out hesitation.

[dsc]

11. yeah I remember vividly when Al and Tipper went around the country

and passed laws forbidding the production of music. No wait, that is bullshit and didn't happen. What did happen was they asked for companies to simply print out their lyrics on the record and then cd covers so parents could decide what their kids would and wouldn't listen to. Then when the companies threw a hissy fit ratings were the compromise. The horror of it all.

[Jamastiene]

36. True.

Plus, it was Tipper's project. Once she got the labels on the cassettes, she pretty much quit. That proves that was all she wanted. If she had wanted to actually censor anyone, she would have kept going. She did not, because she just wanted the labels on the tapes.

As a teenager, I sat down and thought about the issue and realized the labels just made it easier for me to find the tapes guaranteed to piss off the adults, lol. The entire PMRC thing was blown out of proportion and handled with such a knee jerk reaction that it became amusing to me.

Danzig sure knows how to hold a grudge for a long time about something that many musicians thought was going to happen, but never did.

[Hekate]

100. I remember it well, and as a parent I would have appreciated knowing the lyrics first

But noooo, it would infringe on their sacred copyright or something to print the words to the songs on the album cover. Stupid.

NOBODY did what that aging punk said -- wtf does he need to lie about it for?

So he thinks Democrats are fascists -- really? What name does use when he posts here?

[Mojorabbit]

115. I thought it was crappy back then and I do now but

that does not detract from all the good he has done when weighed out.

[arely staircase]

13. the strangest "appeal to authority" fallacy yet.

next up, GG Allin opines on prescription drug benefits.

[kestrel91316]

14. Another moran who has mo idea what fascism is.

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[RKP5637]

27. +1, n/t

[NightWatcher]

15. there are millions of idiots who dislike the President, or the Party, or....

Must we post stories about each of them?

That's a lot of wasted bandwidth. Won't someone save the bandwidth for the children.

[KarKar]

16. Millions of idiots?

ReallY? I think you have just proven Mr Danzig's point.

[arely staircase]

19. do you think liberals are fascists? nt

[Scootaloo]

33. Do you think that's what he said?

Read again.

[alcibiades_mystery]

96. No, silly: Democrats are fascists!

The usual stupidity from packs of clowns who can't win elections.

[NightWatcher]

23. I was asking if you are going to start a post for each person who doesn't like Obama or the Dems.

If so, that's going to be a lot of posts and a huge waste of bandwidth. I don't see how this proves Danzippy's point.

58 million people voted for Romney, are you going to give each of them a post to say what they think of Democrats?

[KarKar]

25. I've seen nothing to indicate that Glenn Danzig voted for Romney

Let me ask you, do you really think that ever single person in this country that doesn't vote for a Democrat is an idiot. EVERY single one of them? What about people that don't vote? Is every single one of them an idiot too?

[muriel_volestrangler]

71. It is calling Democrats 'fascists' that shows he's an idiot

You wanted us to discuss what he said, because you posted this here. This shows him an idiot, on the scale of Jonah Goldberg.

[KarKar]

76. You are in the UK

of what concern is it of yours?

[cyberswede]

93. WTF?

[muriel_volestrangler]

109. Of what concern it is to anyone what the politics of a minor musician are?

You wanted the idiocy known about, so you posted it on DU. I'm not recommending the thread or anything - he's not important enough for that. But you got the mistaken impression that people call Danzig an idiot for not voting for a Democrat. It's not that - it's that he thinks Democrats are fascists.

[burnodo]

47. "Danzippy"

is it always about ad hominem?

[geek tragedy]

87. Fuck Ron Paul and fuck Glenn Danzig.

And their fans and apologists.

[burnodo]

89. And Obama's apologists?

Oh, I forgot. Obama is good and everyone else is EEEEvil!!!

[geek tragedy]

94. This is a Democratic/progressive website, not one dedicated to dumb fucks like Danzig

or rightwing racists like Ron Paul.

Obama supporters belong here. Ron Paul supporters, and those who consider liberal Democrats to be fascists, do not belong here.

[burnodo]

99. I thought this was a place for progressive discussion

I didn't realize it was a place for Obama worship.

[geek tragedy]

103. Ron Paul and Glenn Danzig have nothing to offer to progressive discussions.

The vast majority of people here voted for Obama at least twice.

[burnodo]

105. So voting for means

Worshipping?

[geek tragedy]

106. You're the only one who's talking about worshipping.

There is good faith criticism, and then there is trolling.

[Bjorn Against]

29. Wait a minute, do you think that asshole actually had a point?

[KarKar]

30. He's against Obama's continued use of drones.

That's a valid point. But I guess that makes him and asshole in your eyes, that and he dare speak and unkind word against the President.

[Bjorn Against]

35. I am against the use of drones too, don't pretend the idiot was only talking about drones

I also disagree with Obama quite often myself so your response to me is pathetic and uninformed. Danzig called liberals fascists, that is a moronic statement that has no basis in reality. If you believe what he said is true then you have absolutely no clue what fascism is.

[KarKar]

38. Conjunction of corporate and state power.

Is there any politician in DC, Demo or Rep that doesn't fit that bill? Very few.

[Bjorn Against]

40. Yet most Democrats are not politicians, most oppose the merger of corporate and state power

[KarKar]

41. Show me a single Democrat

That doesn't accept donations from large corporations. Again, very few.

[Bjorn Against]

43. I don't, again most Democrats are not politicians

And the number one reason that so many politicians do take from big corporate interests is that the political system is set up in such a way that it is nearly impossible to win without taking money from corporate interests. That is a problem with the system, it does not mean that everyone who takes a campaign contribution holds a fascist ideology.

[KarKar]

46. They may not

hold a fascist ideology but they are adhering to a fascist system if the contribute to it by yielding to corporate interests.

[Bjorn Against]

48. If the system is fascist then we are all adhering to a fascist system, including you

Unless you are somehow managing to completely seperate yourself from our nation's system of government and economics you are contributing to the system as well. Have you bought gas recently? If so you are giving money to Exxon Mobile which in turn gets sent to politicians as campaign contributions. If Danzig had talked about a fascist system I would have agreed, but singling out Democrats as the fascists is ridiculous especially when the Republicans are so much closer to fascism and they did not even warrant a mention from him.

[KarKar]

51. I am the subject of a fascist system

as we all are except for the leaders and owners.

[Bjorn Against]

55. True, which is exactly why Danzig's statement is so idiotic

He is calling many people who are subjects of a fascist system fascists while ignoring the real fascists.

[OnyxCollie]

122. Most people don't really understand ideology.

Converse: The nature of belief systems in mass publics
http://wikisum.com/w/Converse:_The_nature_of_belief_systems_in_mass_publics

A great majority of people neither adhere to a full, complete set of beliefs which produces a clear ideology nor do they have a clear grasp of what ideology is. This is measured by a lack of coherence in responses to open-ended questions. Ideology of elites is not mirrored by the masses and voter revolt to a political party does not reflect ideological shifts.

Converse analyzes open-ended interview questions to measure conceptualization of ideology. He concludes that the liberal-conservative continuum is a high level abstraction not typically used by the man in the street because of response instability and lack of connections made between answers. There is no underlying belief structure for most people, just a bunch of random opinions. Even on highly controversial, well-publicized issues, large portions of the electorate do not have coherent opinions. In fact, many simply answer survey questions as though they are flipping a coin.

Though some political sophisticates do structure their opinions in a larger ideological framework, such structure is rare. This level of political sophistication (one's "level of conceptualization&quot is correlated positively with the respondent's level of education, degree of political involvement, and amount of political information.

Key points: Most people do not have strong belief systems; that is, they do not think ideologically. A minority of people have fixed preferences and answer survey questions consistently, but most simply give random answers. Most people do not interpret politics through an ideological lens.

The Nature of Belief Systems in Mass Publics
http://politicalbubbles.com/The_Nature_of_Belief_Systems_in_Mass_Publics_Converse_1964.pdf

Danzig gets some parts right, but he believes those who support the President (and by extension, drone strikes) are "liberals."

I love Danzig/Misfits, but this is one of those "Shut up and play" moments.

[burnodo]

49. its like Catholics who disagree with the coverup of pedophilia

they're still Cathoilics and say that the church is wrong....they're not doing anything about it but they say its wrong

[Bjorn Against]

54. I am willing to bet I have done more to oppose it than Danzig has

I have actually marched in the streets and risked arrest to protest drones, I have actually worked with grassroots organizations to get money out of politics, I have actually done things to protest this stuff. Danzig just wants to pretend that liberals are fascists while not saying jack shit about the Tea Party fascists.

[geek tragedy]

75. Fuck Ron Paul, and his assholish newbie followers here at DU.

I predict your stay will be short.

[KarKar]

79. I don't support Ron Paul

[geek tragedy]

83. Mmmm hmmm. nt

[KarKar]

84. Oh man!!!!

You figured me out I'm here on a psyop to post subversive Ron/Rand Paul screeds. And convert people, yeah that's the ticket convert people! You might want to pull up your trousers, your tinfoil underwear is showing.

[geek tragedy]

86. You're here promoting a wingnut smear on liberals from

a nutjob who has said:

The Democratic party has gone so far to the left that people just can't relate to it anymore

Troll.

[KarKar]

98. Losing the argument so you resort to namecalling.

I'm not promoting anything.

[Skittles]

78. I think the guy is referring to the swooners

I think whatever Obama does is OK with them, because he’s Obama. <------- yup

[Rex]

17. Sure, fascists are liberals!

I have no doubt a few here would agree with that line of BS.

[uponit7771]

22. Yeap, vote republican next time or run yourself Glen...Glen would do neither, its easier to bitch

[pnwmom]

28. My view on Glenn Danzig is that he's got an enormous ego disguised as a brain. n/t

[tridim]

31. Opinion noted... Stick to music dude.

[Skip Intro]

32. He's got a point.

I don't think either party cares that much about individual freedoms or the Constitution they have sworn to uphold and protect.

I agree more with Glenn than I disagree with him.

[geek tragedy]

81. Of course you agree with him.

Glenn Danzig quote:

GD: I see two retarded political parties in our country that don't represent the masses. The Democratic party has gone so far to the left that people just can't relate to it anymore and the Republican party is trying to go totally to the right. And I think that both parties are retarded.

[Jamastiene]

34. I KNEW I 'shoulda' made that left 'toin' in 'Albakoikie

If you think liberals are fascists, wtf are you doing here? Or did I take a wrong turn on the way to DU this morning?

[MADem]

37. Who the f..k is Glenn Danzig?

And why does anyone care what an aged "punk rock singer" has to say about anything?

I just can't take the political musings of a guy who can talk "fascists" one minute, and "poofy hair" the next, terribly seriously. Especially one who looks like he's gone a bit heavy on the Grecian Formula!

He sounds a bit hubris-laden, whoever the hell he is. And I have to say, I'll bet those "poofy haired" bands he's insulting (never trust anyone who puts someone down in order to build themselves up--and isn't there some kind of "musician's code" where that kind of thing is bad form?)--along with the ones who wore makeup and frilly pirate shirts and leggings that showed too much of their business--are probably doing better on the residuals end than this guy is. That "top forty crap" still has a market, in commercials, as background music in period films, on "retro" radio stations, as well as golden oldie albums. That junk pays the bills, if musicians are smart enough to hold on to their own work.

I would not be surprised if his mouthiness has something to do with the steroids it looks like he's taking. Thumbs down to Mister Wonderful, whoever the hell he is.

[KarKar]

39. Hey you kids! get off of my lawn!

Really? That's your whole argument.

[MADem]

42. No, that's not my whole argument, but I guess reading past the subject line is a bit much for you?

You enjoy your stay here, now....!

[KarKar]

44. Yeah, don't like an argument? SHUT IT DOWN!

Get the poster banned. What was that about fascism?

[MADem]

62. The only one who can get you banned is YOU.

But you probably know that already....

The lesson here? Don't be a fascist, then, and you won't get banned!

[KarKar]

66. You are the one trying to shut me down

Real civil of you. I see you also resort to name calling.

[MADem]

67. No I'm not...but you're really getting hot under the collar, aren't you?

Unless Mister Democrat Hatin' Danzig is a DUer, and I'm pretty sure he isn't, I can call HIM every name in the book--as I can do for any crazy wingnut who shits on Democrats. That's not a breach of civil discourse, here (so stop with that conflating foolishness, no one buys it), that's pointing out the obvious.

Funny how you double down to defend the little turd; can't help but notice your upset that anyone dare to note the putz's many weaknesses. To include his not being able to take a punch!



Like I said, the only one who can "shut you down" is YOU.

[KarKar]

68. What do you mean by that

not being able to take a punch? Can you take a punch?

[MADem]

70. You responded to the post that dealt with this topic. I guess you didn't click the link and watch

the video?

Can't understand why you're unclear--it's pretty, well, OBVIOUS that the guy can't take a punch. There's evidence of it, right upthread!

I don't have to worry about those sorts of things--I don't behave like your Dem-hatin' hero, there!

[KarKar]

72. You find it amusing and pleasurable to watch a

man strike another man. You are cracking jokes about it. If that is YOUR Democratic Party, I want no part of it.

[MADem]

77. No, I find it amusing to see a bully get served. He provoked a man who wasn't threatening him, and

he got what he deserved.

But hey, you're obsessively entranced with the Dem hating bully, that much is OBVIOUS from the fretting you're doing on this thread about him.

And he can't take a damn punch!

[BOG PERSON]

45. so many ad hominems in one post

you must be a big fan of poofy hair bands

dont worry, glenn danzig is not living in destitution

[MADem]

50. No, I just observe the market, and I don't see this guy all over the television.

I don't see that commercial, either...but whatever. As for ad hominems, since that loser can dish 'em out, he oughta be able to take 'em....at least better than he can take a punch!



I'm more of a Motown/blues/old school jazz/reggae and classical fan. Oh, and I also get a kick out of Persian and Indian music, on odd occasion, and late 19th to mid 20th century popular junk...but in light doses!

I do pay attention, though, and this guy is a niche player, at best. He's also a jerk!

[BOG PERSON]

57. criticism and ad-hominem are the same thing

only if ones identity is thoroughly wrapped up in branding

[MADem]

58. Well, that wouldn't be me, but it certainly would be Mister I-Hate-Poofy-Hair, and My-Clothes-Are

Cooler-Than-Their Clothes!

Waaah, FASCISTS!

Sorry--the guy is a total tool.

And he can't take a punch, either.



Don't get too hot-breathed defending the jerk, it's just not worth it.

[BOG PERSON]

61. i'm not hot-breathed, you're projecting

and it is not classy to at your own jokes

[MADem]

64. U mad, bro?

Sure seems that way!

I never claimed to be classy!

[BOG PERSON]

65. you certainly did not

stay classless, "bro"

[MADem]

82. Like I have already said, I never made that claim, bro! nt

[KarKar]

69. You sure are hip to the internet lingo

For somebody who claims to be so old and unhip that they don't even know who Danzig might be.

[MADem]

74. The Young Whippersnappers teach this old goat a thing or two pretty near every day!

I even know a few of the words to "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky" -- two favorites amongst the teens in my environment! Aren't I just the heppest cat in the alley!

And sorry--I've never seen that greasy, steroidal Dem hating loser Danzig before today....! Don't know his music, and don't care to, either. He sounds like he'd be at home on a bill with Ted "No Talent" Nugent.

And he sure can't take a punch...! Howard Cosell oughta narrate that bout... "DOWN goes Danzig!"

[muriel_volestrangler]

110. None of us are fans of anyone who calls them 'poofy hair bands'

It's a homophobic slur that tells us all we need to know about the hateful idiot that used it. I can't see why you're worried about ad hominems against him.

[BOG PERSON]

116. poof is a slur

but the "poofy hair band" genre was extremely brotastic on the whole, an out and out celebration of sexism.

[arcane1]

53. He's "Satan's Fat Elvis"

[MADem]

114. And a real asshole, too....look what Google told me about him! He shits on his fans, the loser!

http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=73589

....-Glenn arrives at 7:45 (half hour before showtime, they go on at 8:15 exactly and have a 90 min. set...park curfew by the city/police is 10 PM sharp)...when he arrives, he says he's not going to play. (He) Says he doesn't like how the banners are hung on stage and doesn't like the lighting or stage size (all this was advanced in email and phone well in advance and the band/crew loaded in mid day and were happy with it and said it would work...stage wasn't small at all). He wouldn't leave his trailer to go look at the stage, though, so the lighting company drew up specs for him to look at of the stage lighting 50 feet from his trailer and brought it to him to look over and prove him wrong.

-In the meantime, Glenn's bodyguard gets pushy (literally) with Murder City Devils manager and tells them they can't have their friends watch MCD from stage and wants them to cut their set. (Then) kicks them off stage and gets physical with the band and staff....oh, also Danzig says he's just as big as Slayer and Slayer is playing a bigger stage on Sunday and that's bullshit and wants to play the same stage slayer is playing...or won't play. makes him look bad.

-It's now 8:15 and time for them to go on. The band is ready, corpse make ups done, guitars tunes. Glenn says he's not playing and that it's too cold outside. He said big stages should have windscreen so wind can't blow on him from the side. The stage managers then goes and gets tarps and tarp the entire side of the stage so now wind will hit him.

-It's now 8:40. We explain that it's cutting into the set and he's going to have cut the 90 min set if he doesn't play soon, as park curfew is 10. He says he doesn't feel like playing and says "I got a death bug. If i go on stage and get sick, I'll die. I'm not getting sicker for this show" (NOTE: he totally looks and seems fine...no coughing, no paleness, no vomiting, just some balding and a gut, from what i can tell). We get the Dr. and he says he can do a B12 shot or anything he needs if he feels bad...Danzig says he only treats illnesses naturally, so won't do that. We finally get him to agree to play and have already informed his crew that it's only 60 mins (9 PM at this point) and they start cutting some songs from the set list, so they can still do Misfits, but obviously didn't cut enough.

-They went on almost and hour late due to the HANDS DOWN biggest rock star moment we've ever dealt with and then he tries to start a riot and blames the fest, the city, the cops and everyone but himself. (He) goes backstage and tries to fight a few people and gets in the van and leaves.
The end.... we're bummed to. We wanted to hear Skulls."

[aquart]

56. So?

[cui bono]

59. "I think whatever Obama does is OK with them, because he’s Obama."

This is a HUGE problem on DU.

[Union Scribe]

113. I think that's the line that got under their skin, lol.

I'm not really a Danzig guy but it's funny that he's pissed them off.

[muriel_volestrangler]

117. He's a homophobic, anti-science, anti-Democrat conspiracy theorist

who thinks the Democrats are too far to the left, and you think "it's funny that he's pissed them off"?

Why aren't you pissed off at the crap he says?

[Union Scribe]

118. Why do I care what some singer I've barely heard of says?

See, I'm not too hip on this new DU sport where you see a quote from someone and you go research their whole fucking life to find something to discredit them. I couldn't care less what he says about Republicans, Democrats, or me personally. What I saw is a condemnation of fake liberals and a load of locksteppers lose their bananas over it, then yeah I find that funny, because their support of drones and spying and chained CPI and TPP etc etc etc etc. is obnoxious.

[muriel_volestrangler]

120. So you're in this thread to insult DUers

as "fake liberals and a load of locksteppers "?

You're a waste of space.

[Union Scribe]

123. Just the fake liberal ones. Stay classy MV. nt

[Comrade Grumpy]

60. Duly noted, and filed in the appropriate receptacle.

[AsahinaKimi]

63. Another ted nugent wanna be?

please... no thanks.

[muriel_volestrangler]

73. He's basically Glenn Beck - also thinks the Illuminati run the world, and all modern medicine is bad

What are you reading lately?

Let’s see… something I started getting interested in a long time ago, that’s just an extension of a course on America being founded on Masonic principles and things like that. Back in the ’90s I looked at it and it was a no-no to talk about, but… the whole organization that runs the world, which is multi-country, and people know it as either the Committee of 300 or the Bilderbergs. Some people call it the Illuminati. That’s interesting to me.

http://www.metalsucks.net/2010/07/28/just-when-you-thought-that-glenn-danzig-couldnt-get-any-crazier/

You don’t need to do it every day. Diet is really important and I think vitamins are really important also. Maybe you want to go to a nutritionist and find out what your body is lacking and what it’s not lacking. And I don’t mean a fucking quack, chemo, murdering doctor. I mean a nutritionist, who evaluates your blood and tells you what you’re deficient in and what you’re not deficient in.
...
If I can help it, I don’t go to modern doctors.

How come?
They’re full of shit.

Across the board? All of Western medicine?
Pretty much. If you had cancer would you get chemo? You’d be dead in a week.

http://www.vice.com/read/glenn-danzig-422-v17n5

So, there's a lot of similarity between Glenn Danzig and Glenn Beck. Both idiots who hate Democrats, believe in nutty conspiracy theories, and reject basic science in favour of snake oil salesmen.

[JustAnotherGen]

92. n/t

The illuminati nonsense again? He probably reads the Vigilant Citizen as serious news.

[Warpy]

80. He's just proving he should stick to what he calls music

and try to cope with the ever shrinking conservative bubble filled with nodding dittoheads that he prefers to live in.

Of course we argue. Of course we point out stinking thinking. We Democrats are a contentious bunch and we're not for wimps.

[geek tragedy]

85. Danzig quote from 2005:

The Democratic party has gone so far to the left that people just can't relate to it anymore

[KarKar]

88. Oh yes

God yes, he's completely off the mark on that. He should have said

The Democratic party has gone so far to the left right that people just can't relate to it anymore

[geek tragedy]

90. He's an ignorant, stupid asshole.

No one of intelligence values his opinion.

[JustAnotherGen]

91. Well how about that

2005 . . . Hmm - So were too lefty for him back then?

[geek tragedy]

95. Simple rule: those who defend "liberals are fascists" claims

are trolls.

[KarKar]

97. The 9 people who reccomend this thread

are they trolls too? You wanna make a list of their names and work to get them banned too?

[geek tragedy]

101. At least one of them is a semi-open Ron Paul supporter

who soiled himself with outrage over the IRS non-scandal and was outraged over Jeremiah Wright back in the day.

[JustAnotherGen]

108. Psst

Off Topic - I agreed with Rev Wright. He was absolutely right. And I hope whomever it is you "noted" sits and chews on that.

[JustAnotherGen]

107. Amen to that

[cyberswede]

104. Christ - I *wish* the Democratic Party was that lefty. nt

[Hekate]

102. Punk

[Tom Ripley]

111. Hail Kitty! In his defense, Danzig is a responsible pet owner...

[nyquil_man]

112. He's free to say that he's not free to say what he wants? nt

[HardTimes99]

119. Someone who has very little idea of what a fascist is (or what fascism as a

movement was and is).

Obama may be the world's worst socialist - the verdict is still out on that question - but no way is he a fascist.

Substitute the word 'authoritarian' for 'fascist' and Danzig's critique makes a lot more sense and seems more sustainable.

[Lord Magus]

124. Republicans are fascists disguiesed as...

...oh, who are we kidding? They're not disguised at all!

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

125. Oh, no! With Danzig trashing us, Dems will lose the late 80s/early 90s dumbass vote!

Can't wait to hear what Anthrax or Pantera have to say on the matter.

[geek tragedy]

126. We could ask KarKar the next time he registers to troll DU. nt

[Capt. Obvious]

127. Too much horror business