Professional Left's Professional Pimp Julian Assange Comes Out as Far Right Extremist

[michigandem58]

For some time now, the pragmatic Left has been warning that Wikileaks, its Founder Julian Assange, and their cohorts in The Guardian (think Glenn Greenwald) are nothing more than right wing libertarian moles trying to fool the Left in America, just as Ed Snowden did. That truth came into some stark relief yesterday:

The strong turn of Julian Assange and Wikileaks toward partisan electoral politics continued this weekend, as Assange told an online audience that he’s “a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul [/b]for their very principled positions in the U.S. Congress on a number of issues” and insisted that the libertarian wing the Republican Party represented the “only hope” for reform in American politics....

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/professional-lefts-professional-pimp.html

[hrmjustin]

1. Oh my you are going to get responses to this!

[Number23]

3. Move over! And be prepared to share!

[hrmjustin]

4. Got beer!

[Cali_Democrat]

18. I got the weed

[hrmjustin]

19. LOL naughty! Do share!!!

[kardonb]

67. assnge

this whole sanctification of Assange is going BUST big-time .

[sheshe2]

14. I have the wine~

[hrmjustin]

17. Wew that is so cool!

[leftstreet]

2. Aren't the Pauls Republicans?

Are Republicans 'far right extremists?'

If so, why has Obama spent 5 years reaching-across-the-aisle and compromising with far right extremists?

[pnwmom]

30. Obama has to try to compromise because no bill can be passed without

a majority in the House, which is controlled by the Republicans, which are under the thumb of the extreme right wing of the party.

I would have thought you'd understand this.

[MNBrewer]

92. So you're saying he's in charge of getting Majority Republican bills passed?

[pnwmom]

95. Absolutely not. But he's in charge of getting bills passed, and that requires

getting at least some Republican votes. There are few these days that are not very conservative, and he will have to do some horse-trading to even get those few votes.

[MNBrewer]

96. So, YES, in other words

because almost nothing comes to a vote without a Majority Republican caucus going for it.

[CakeGrrl]

61. Because people won't send a reliable Dem majority to Congress.

It'd be interesting to see a Warren or a Grayson get to the WH with the exact congressional makeup that President Obama has and see what strides are made toward Progressive legislation.

And more interestingly, the reactions here when they would make no more or even less headway than President Obama has.

[uponit7771]

91. Can't more than 2 million more dems voted for congress in last elections and kkkons still hold house

...because of unmitigated gerrymandring

[awoke_in_2003]

102. Almost none to vote for...

the only people who can get the money to run got it buy selling themselves.

[lumpy]

66. Now why would the president do such a thing? Think about it.

n

[Luminous Animal]

5. Hahahaha!!!! Some day, I want to take that idiot at the peoplesview out for a drink

with my friends and talk politics. He'd be a quivering pile of goo in 15 minutes.

[Whisp]

27. sounds like the idiot is Assange.

did that quivering pile of goo stuff words into Assange's vile yap and misrepresent?

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[DisgustipatedinCA]

6. Uncle Hortence made a new blog entry. Nice.

[NuclearDem]

7. Ah, Christ, that blog again.

[kestrel91316]

8. Well, at least now I get that "the professional left" is the RWers latest

slur against liberals. Right up there with "dirty hippies", "libtards", "feminazis", and the like.

I'll remember that the next time somebody gets called that.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. I think it was Robert Gibbs who coined the term "professional left"

I wouldn't consider him a right winger.

[kestrel91316]

13. If he intended it as a slur against liberal/progressives, he may have a D behind his name, but

he's no friend.

[Cali_Democrat]

16. You are certainly entitled to your opinion

However, I think he's a good Dem.

[RetroLounge]

100. of course you do

RL

[Cali_Democrat]

105. Hi RL

[Mojorabbit]

123. +100 nt

[tblue]

136. That's what he meant.

Was a slap in the face to those who helped him elect Obama.

[NuclearDem]

44. I wouldn't particularly consider him a left-winger either

[Cali_Democrat]

48. He's left of center IMO. n/t

[valerief]

57. Yeah, but center has moved right. nt

[NorthCarolina]

54. I would. nt

[Cha]

119. I think a better more descriptive term is..

"Profiteering left".

[neverforget]

71. People's View also called lefties the Black Helicopter Left.

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/the-black-helicopter-left-and-its.html

Very good at the grade school name calling.......

[Jamaal510]

9. Why am I not surprised? eom

[freshwest]

132. +1

[msanthrope]

10. Who knew Assange was anti-choice??? I should have guessed--

“So, non-violence: well, don’t go and invade a foreign country. Non-violence: don’t force people at the barrel of a gun to serve in the U.S. Army. Non-violence: doesn’t extort taxes from people to the federal Government with a policeman. Similarly, other aspects of non-violence in relation to abortion that they hold.”

The anti-choice rapist---what a surprise!!!

[SMC22307]

38. He's saying "non-violence: don't blow up abortion clinics if you're anti-choice,"

in keeping with the statements (nonviolence: XXX) he made just prior. Or at least, that's how it reads to me. He's bashing social Conservatives, just as we do on DU.

[msanthrope]

45. No--it's non-violence because abortion is violent to the fetus--see what Ron Paul says about it:

During a May 15, 2007, appearance on the Fox News talk show Hannity and Colmes, Ron Paul argued that his pro-life position was consistent with his libertarian values, asking, “If you can’t protect life then how can you protect liberty?” Additionally, Ron Paul said that since he believes libertarians support non-aggression, libertarians should oppose abortion because abortion is “an act of aggression” against a fetus.

http://www.ronpaul.com/on-the-issues/abortion/

Given that Julian has at least 4 children by 4 different women, and his sexual assault of two women in Sweden centers on his refusal to use condoms, I suspect Assange is quite anti-choice--in an extremely narcissistic way.

[SMC22307]

50. And where's the blue link for an Assange direct quote about abortion?

He wore condoms, then he didn't. No one really knows the whole story. I suspect.

[msanthrope]

53. Four children by four different women suggests he doesn't use condoms. nt

[SMC22307]

55. Condoms aren't 100%. But surely you knew that. (n/t)

[msanthrope]

56. Look, at that failure rate you ought to change out your brand....nt

[SMC22307]

58. Who's to say he wore the same brand?

Hit a club, pick up a willing partner, and wear whatever is in the nightstand.

[msanthrope]

62. You are a worthy defender of Mr. Assange. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

12. The Atlantic Wire update

[font size="3"]The Pauls and the Leakers Are All Fond of Each Other[/font]

Philip Bump Aug 16, 2013


With his declaration on Friday that he is "a big fan" of Ron and Rand Paul, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has completed the square of mutual admiration between himself, the Pauls, and Edward Snowden.

Assange's affection for the libertarian duo, reported by the Huffington Post, comes as little surprise. His comments came during a Google chat with the group Campus Reform. As HuffPo transcribed:

" am a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul for their very principled positions in the U.S. Congress on a number of issues. … They have been the strongest supporters of the fight against the U.S. attack on WikiLeaks and on me in the U.S. Congress. Similarly, they have been the strongest opponents of drone warfare and extrajudicial executions."

That fills in two additional arrows on our brand-new graph.



More: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/pauls-and-leakers-are-all-fond-each-other/68436/

[Number23]

20. Anyone shocked by any of this should get in touch with me

I got a lovely little bridge to sell. Excellent location in a world class city.



Cash Only!! No refunds!!

[sheshe2]

33. The bridge over troubled waters!

Excellent! 23~

[Number23]

36. No Refunds!

[Cha]

122. Mutual Admiration Society of

Liars. thank goodness they didn't have greenwald's ugly pic in the middle.

[Tarheel_Dem]

135. Excellent! And they are desperately trying to take over DU & other spots of the leftosphere.

They brag about their shit stirring tactics here:

"Take a look on Democratic Underground

They have the gov't paid trolls out, trying to limit the outrage & rebellion on there.

If that is the reaction of hard core Dems to the news stories on the NSA, I want to stoke up some more of it.

Lots of traffic on DU.

It's the most popular Dem internet site, except for Huffy Po - where everything meaningful gets censored."

http://www.dailypaul.com/288556/clapper-and-feinstein-get-caught-lying-big-time#comment-3103138

[Rex]

22. YEP.

It is from some idiot blogger!

[Bobbie Jo]

73. Um....

The poster you're "yepping" there is gone.

[Rex]

77. Oh well my point still stands that it is an idiot blogger source.

Pointing out the obvious is so in these days.

[Bobbie Jo]

80. Indeed.

Obvious troll was obvious.

[Rex]

81. YEP.

Indeed.

[hrmjustin]

24. So how do you like DU so far?

[hrmjustin]

34. It was not meant to be my friend. Blessings to you and yours!

[CakeGrrl]

21. It never sits right that the ACTUAL "Professional Left", i.e.

Greenwald, Uygur and a few others have been so embraced as (former) RWers who've seen the light and have become beacons of Progressive light.

I think a lot of people have been hoodwinked...and NOT by the President whom they think is a GOP enabler.

[SidDithers]

25. DU rec...

this'll sure stir up the libertarians here.

Or are they calling themselves Demotarians now?

Sid

[Historic NY]

31. Demotarians, from which planet?

[Iliyah]

42. Seriously?

That name - demons. Be back later True Blood fans (some) are going nutso - heheheheheheheheheh

[Egalitarian Thug]

26. Now is this the professional black helicopter left, the tabloid left, or just the run-of-the-mill

communist hippie lefty left? You are going to have to start delineating characteristics specific to each class of the awful professional left that is ruining our great nation for grumpy old white guys.

And are you sure it's not just all Ralph Nader's fault?

[michigandem58]

28. They're tools of the right

I hope these revelations will bring some to their senses.

[Rex]

46. Oh it has! Many people did not know your idiot blogger source

refused to vote for Obama! But they do now thanks to you.

[NuclearDem]

49. As opposed to, what, the pragmatists?

Oh yeah, the professional left are tools, not the ones constantly compromising with the right.

[Egalitarian Thug]

99. A RW screed from an even more obscure message board constitutes a revelation to you? n/t

[WorseBeforeBetter]

29. LOL, keep fucking that chicken, Spandan.

(Do we have a Smilie for "unhinged"?)

[octoberlib]

41. Did you read the comments?

This Spandan guy thinks Ed Schultz and Markos Moulitsas are right wing trolls.

Spandan Mod Kennymack1971 • 3 hours ago −
I am positive the emoprogs have no idea how not to be played for fools. If they didn't wanna be pawns for right wing trolls, they might have considered not going gaga over "former" Republicans such as Ed Schultz, Arianna Huffington, Markos Moulitsas, etc.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

64. No, I had to compose myself after "Brilliant analysis, Spandan."

OK, I'm wading back in. Funny, that used to be the sport on DU -- wading into Free Republic. Now it's Spandanville, home of the Pragmatic Progressives.

[octoberlib]

65. I think the real right wing troll is this Spandan creep.

Sounds like projection to me. I mean, smearing Ed Schultz??

[WorseBeforeBetter]

72. Spandan is no Democrat, and he uses race to whip the easily manipulated...

into a frenzy, while pushing his right-wing/authoritarian beliefs.

Meid_ICH > Rita D. Lipshutz
• 2 hours ago
−
Firebaggers can't hear anything above the loudness of the color of President Obama's skin. They are pathetic.

Is there an exemption for the Firebaggers who voted for Obama, not once, but twice?

[WorseBeforeBetter]

78. He hated Obama, until he loved him.

Just adding this in case you're new to Spandan:

Good riddance, Barack Obama
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3474792

He loved Dean, until he hated him.

Sounds like Tweety...anyway the wind blows. And some DUers just lap up ol' Spandan.

[octoberlib]

83. I am new to Spandan. Thanks for the info!

The article on the black helicopter left is hilarious.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

86. Oh, that was *so* 2 days ago!

I think Howling Left was yesterday, and today we're pimps by association. Whee!

[cascadiance]

125. I wonder if Spandan and David Horowitz are having lunch...

... and talking about how they are going to "tame the new right wing wave" that they try to make it sound like they are not a part of.

[sheshe2]

35. Kicked and Recommending!

[DeSwiss]

37. Trashed. n/t

[sheshe2]

39. And~

But but but, you say. It's not like Assange was celebrating the entire political ideology of the Pauls; he was merely speaking approvingly of Rand Paul's crusade against domestic surveillance programs of the NSA. Well, beyond completely ignoring the fact that nothing is being done by the government that is illegal, abusive or unchecked, the idea that Assange is merely advancing the libertarians' anti-surveillance agenda is devastatingly incorrect. In Assange's own words:

“The position of the Libertarian Republican, or a better description Right, coming from a principle of non-violence which is the American Libertarian tradition. That produces interesting results.

“So, non-violence: well, don’t go and invade a foreign country. Non-violence: don’t force people at the barrel of a gun to serve in the U.S. Army. Non-violence: doesn’t extort taxes from people to the federal Government with a policeman. Similarly, other aspects of non-violence in relation to abortion that they hold.”

Isn't that great? The Professional Left's Great White Hope and worshiped hero is not only avoiding extradition on sexual assault charges (because for some reason, it is appropriate to be outraged over sexual assaults in the military - and it is - and at the same time rank-canonize a man who is accused of sexual assualt of multiple women), but is also takes extreme anti-tax positions and believes that abortion is "violence."

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/08/professional-lefts-professional-pimp.html

Thanks MD...

[SMC22307]

47. He's bashing anti-choice Conservatives with the "non-violence: abortion" statement...

the ones who blow up abortion clinics and gun down doctors because they're "pro-life."

Read it again, and concentrate this time.

[BumRushDaShow]

40. The Daily Banter

[font size="3"]In this week’s edition of The Daily Banter Mail Bag, Ben, Bob, and Chez discuss the so-called “far-left,” Rush Limbaugh hosting a presidential debate and our desert island movies![/font]

The questions:

1. I noticed Bob is now differentiating between the left and the “far left.” Call them the far left, the professional left, or emo-progs, how much damage do you think these all-or-nothing voices are doing to progressive policy in this country?
– Phil

Ben: I think they’re doing quite a lot of damage to be honest. They’ve essentially walled themselves off from the political process with their list of demands and pet peeves, and turned pretty much everyone else in the country off. I don’t disagree with much of what they say – there are huge problems with civil liberties, drones, US foreign policy, Obama’s ties to lobbyists etc etc, but the point is to be constructive, not destructive. The latter simply makes you feel better. I don’t like a lot of what Obama does, but I recognize the political reality he faces – something the screaming left doesn’t ever want to acknowledge.

Chez: Good question. I honestly don’t know. I guess one of the nice things to keep in mind about the utopian left — that’s been my term for them for a while — is that policy-wise nobody really gives a shit what they want. When it comes to the media narrative, they’ve definitely gained a foothold if for no other reason than that their constant whiny outrage makes for great troll bait. My main problem with them is that I really don’t think even they appreciate how much they’ve looped around and are now essentially occupying the exact same space on the political wheel as the far-right crazies. Both groups are made up of conspiracy theorists and political nihilists. The difference is that the right listens to and embraces its fringe — the left and center-left, thankfully, disregards most of its.

Bob: I’m glad you brought that up because I’d like to clarify that I’m not entirely convinced the “far-left” label is accurate, but in lieu of the more derogatory terms, it’s the best I could do. The Greenwald faction (maybe that’s a good one) is composed of various political types, but generally they exist to my left, and thus “far-left.” Mainly, though, the big difference is in terms of tactics, not policy positions. My “left” is all about reality and pragmatic change. The Greenwald left is all about radical self-immolation and cacophonous screeching.

More: http://thedailybanter.com/2013/08/the-daily-banter-mail-bag-the-far-left-limbaugh-as-debate-moderator-our-desert-island-movies/

[SMC22307]

43. Not just incorrect, but "devastatingly incorrect"!

Drama queen much?

Well, beyond completely ignoring the fact that nothing is being done by the government that is illegal, abusive or unchecked, the idea that Assange is merely advancing the libertarians' anti-surveillance agenda is devastatingly incorrect.

This may be the funniest fucking blog on all the internets.

[Lonr]

51. I'll keep that in mind

next time I'm deciding whether or not to deck a TSA agent for reaching for my junk!

[stupidicus]

52. And if OBL declared the sky blue

he'd still be right regardless of who he is or what he did

the only real diff is that even the "attack the messenger" weaklings wouldn't be stupid enough to use it in that case.

WHen the revisions are made in the laws to address the illegalities, unconstitutionality, either in the letter or interpretation of it, the only fools to be found will be those weaklings.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

59. and with this endorsement, purposely or accidently sinks Paul's chances of taking over the govt.

[99th_Monkey]

60. I doubt that Assange "admires" Ron Paul's "Far-Right Extremism"

I suspect it's for similar reasons as mine. Say what?

Yes, I admire Ron Paul's taking principled positions supporting
legalization of pot, and opposing the War on Drugs, along with
foolish counter-productive wars abroad.

That doesn't make me (nor Assange) a Libertarian. Far from it.
At least in my case, I'm no damn Libertarian and I'm growing sick
of people harping on this nonsensical smear tactic.

[Rex]

63. It is all they have left to draw from.

The well done went dry long ago.

[99th_Monkey]

68. The horse not only left the barn long ago

it up and died, & is now getting constantly beaten for no apparent reason by
Neo-Authoritarians run amok.

[Rex]

84. Funny all this support for a blogger that decided not to vote for Obama.

Funny how they twist their acceptance of someone if it fits their narrative. Twist and spin.

[zeemike]

110. You just don't get the game.

You are ether with us or against us...
So there is a list of people and things you must love, and another list of thing and people you must hate....no mix and match...the purity must be maintained.

The one thing that makes my alarm go off is the use of the false dicotomy...because it is the most common tool of manipulation.

[Enthusiast]

142. I appreciate your reasonable post.......nt

[Bonobo]

69. Umm, no. He doesn't. EOM.

[G_j]

70. Jury results

Professional Left's Professional Pimp Julian Assange Comes Out as Far Right Extremist
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023485714

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

The term "professional left" is a RW device, meant to demean liberals.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:05 AM, and voted 3-3 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Did I stumble into a Tea Party?
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Not sure about origin of "professional left". It means what OP wants it to mean, seems to me.

I like Assange, but detractors should be permitted to detract... however unconvincingly.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: It certainly is a RW term, which is exactly why the poster here is using it in an ironic manner.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: Thank you, alerter. This is pretty noxious.
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: That website linked to is a homophobic rag.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

Thank you.

[CakeGrrl]

74. "Professional Left" is a RW device? Since when?

People here were "proud members" (you can search the posts) when they thought Robert Gibbs was insulting them personally by using it.

When did it flip around and become a term of marginalization?

[Cha]

129. #5 "...linked to is a "homophobic rag" that's ignorant bullshit. nm

[michigandem58]

134. Sad that three voted to hide this

I suspect it has more to do with their viewpoint than anything.

[whatchamacallit]

75. Boy these new DUers just love to stir shit with this asshole's dumb blog

Wonder what the agenda is...

[DisgustipatedinCA]

139. I think it must be the OP's Uncle Fester, and he's very proud of Uncle's pro- and anti-Obama writing

[Demo_Chris]

76. This is as silly as dismissing a scientist's work because he votes Republican... cont

Assange's opinions on Paul and Libertarianism are irrelevant, as are his motivations, dog versus cat preferences, and favorite color.

Pointing them out in this way is nothing more than an effort to dehumanize the man by equating his worth to his position on these select issues. If Assange happens to march in lockstep with us he has value, if he does not then nothing he might say, no contribution he might make, has merit at all. It is defining humanity and value through compliance with the party. Under this world-view Assange is an unperson, and should be ignored.

My mind does not work in this way, and I resist the tendency every time it strikes.

[AverageJoe90]

82. Good post, man.

Regardless of what Spandan may or may not have been up to, he at least got this right: Assange is nothing more than an opprotunistic asshole.....I'll even go as far as to speculate on whether or not he might just be a Third Position fascist mole of some kind......(google 3rd Position, btw, if you don't know about it.)

[WorseBeforeBetter]

88. Spandan sounds like quite the "opprotunistic asshole" himself.

Love Dean. Hate Dean. Hate Obama. Love Obama.

Blog posts 2009: 44
Blog posts 2010: 392
Blog posts 2011: 576
Blog posts 2012: 423
Blog posts 2013: 167 (pick up the pace, Spandan, it's August 18th FFS!)

Someone is paying this hack, beyond $5 online contributions.

[AverageJoe90]

113. I doubt he's being paid; the .1%, they LOVE this shit.....and Snowden was one of their tools!

Snowden came around at a very crucial time in the Obama administration, while he was in talks with China & Russia.....and those talks were derailed not long after Snowden showed up in China with his stolen documents. Indeed, why did he pick such a crucial moment? Is someone manipulating him directly, perhaps?

In any case, whatever Spandan may have done in the past, he at least got this one right. Fuck Snowden.....and fuck his buddy Assange, too.

[morningfog]

85. Holy shit. Bold, underline and italics. This is serious.

[MisterP]

87. hmm, I thought the NSAers were against name-calling

besides, why would Spandan complain about someone being a RW extremist? he's just a trollfic, like a Peter Griffin mad lib where every blank is filled in with the word "poop"
*nasal fat-bastard laughter*

[Iliyah]

89. WOW

many different meanings for Liberals and/or Progressive - LOL

Thanks michigandem58 - K & R

Haven's on, yippee

[MNBrewer]

90. oh, STOP! My SIDES!!!!

[Hell Hath No Fury]

93. ...

[Union Scribe]

94. Since I'm told that blogger isn't a DUer, I feel free to say

that he or she is the biggest pile of wriggling stupidity that has ever flopped their tentacles against a keyboard and miraculously formed words. Not words that make sense, but words. So bravo to them for that. But the enormous fuckwaddery displayed by this dishonest boot licker emits such a high level of dangerous derp waves it's actually throwing birds' senses of earth's magnetism off. They're bouncing off my house as I type this, drawn in by the glow of gibberish from that blog on my screen; toward that supercritical mass of dimwittedness that explodes up over and over again on DU.

[G_j]

98. on the money

great review..
two thumbs up!!

[MFrohike]

97. I can't help but laugh

You do realize you're copying the rabid right-wing who learned from Lenin and Stalin, right? Somebody just needs to claim someone is a left deviationist and the comedy will be complete.

[RetroLounge]

101. Really? Fucking Really?

RL

[Drunken Irishman]

103. It's okay. DUers don't care about those issues.

They only care about one issue. They'll go to the mat for right-wind ideologues on this specific issue and hardly put any effort into any other important agenda here at home. It's been interesting watching the supposed 'left-wingers' here completely ignore so many important issues because all they can do is whine about the NSA ... over and over again. It's the only real topic here that garners discussion. Everything else is a non-issue. DU should change its name to NSA Outrage because, let's be honest, that is the only issue liberals care about. That's the only issue that has riled 'em up to the point where they'll fight tooth and nail and throw their support behind reactionist asshole rapists like Assange because, gosh, on this one issue he might maybe be right! Fuck the rest of the issues, though!

It's the same when they all fell in love, for a day, with Rand Paul over drones.

But don't you dare try to get them to put that same passion into things like immigration reform, the environment, abortion, gay rights, women's rights, voter rights and other rights that are constantly eroding here at home. Where is the constant outrage over what is happening in New York with stop and frisk? Sure, you'll get a handful of posts ... but they almost always are overshadowed with the constant NSA complaining. No one seems to care that voter rolls are being purged of legal citizens solely because they're black, or that certain states are taking on extreme measures to limit a woman's right to choose.

Do a quick search of GD's front page to see what I mean!

0 posts about voter rights
1 post about abortion (that received zero replies and so far only two thumbs up)
6 posts specifically with NSA in the title.
4 posts about Snowden.
8 posts about Greenwald.
0 posts about immigration reform

Telling, isn't it?

This is what the far-left has become and why I feel further alienated from this ideology. The entire obsession with the NSA is appalling because it just proves how the left doesn't give two shits about so many issues they supposedly care a whole helluva lot about.

Since I've been here, I've never seen the left put this much emotion or energy as they have into the NSA into any other major issue. How fucking pathetic is that? How pathetic is the left for that very reason?

How sad does that make DU?

Then they complain when their politicians don't stand up for liberal issues. Hell, most DUers here would happily throw every other liberal cause under the bus if it meant pushing even further with this NSA bullshit. It'll overshadow our gun laws, the purging of voters in North Carolina, a dead black teen in Florida, the stripping of women's rights in Texas and the overall assault on our environment.

Amazing. Let's just admit the left, at least the DU left, are a bunch of hypocrites. If that's what liberalism has become, essentially bitching about so-called spying, this ideology has failed and it will lose. It will lose and the left will continue to be marginalized by the wackos like those who post on DU.

[G_j]

104. concern noted

I hate to break it to you but "the far left"
are not the only ones posting about this issue.

[Drunken Irishman]

106. You're right.

The only difference is that most people haven't obsessed over it like DU and they fight just as hard for other issues that are important. Not DU liberals. They're too engrossed in this to even care about every other stripping of freedom here at home. They'll freak out, of course, and spend hours upon days upon months focusing on this issue ... and maybe throw up a token post here and there discussing what is happening in North Carolina.

It's very telling.

[G_j]

111. I hear what you are saying but

I think it runs across the board that people get focused on a hot button issue. I don't see that as a negative until other issue are ignored. In general, we all need to keep in my mind our local politics. I live in NC, and I will tell you what is happening here is very important to all our futures. Local politics has become the front line. So while I agree with you in some fashion, I certainly don't see it as a problem perpetuated by the "far left". I have participated in Moral Monday here in NC, and I see a lot of these people deeply committed and involved.

[Drunken Irishman]

116. It really isn't even the far-left...

I shouldn't clump all the left into that sentiment and I tried to separate the two by specifically mentioning the DU left - which I do believe is out of touch with a great deal of the fight. The problem with the DU left, is that they don't seem to put as much emotion and anger into other issues. So, while they are passionate about Snowden and the NSA, when this fades over the next year, I am skeptical that same passion will then shift to other major issues that we're losing on every single daily.

What I'm saying is that if I had faith most here could transplant this anger and emotion to other issues, I'd feel inclined to ignore many of these posts. But this NSA thing has gripped DU unlike anything since the Iraq War, and unfortunately, many, many other issues are being ignored by many on the left.

[G_j]

118. the NSA situation is at a most crucial point

and many feel we must take advantage of this window and confront it head on.
I agree with that.

it's also time to start buckling down on our local politics. A lot is happening, and we cannot miss our windows there. If one pays attention at all, they will see that ALEC and their allies are rewriting our laws. They are gutting years of efforts to protect woman's rights, the environment, you name it.
We will wake up and be very sorry, if we don't get involved where we live. NC is under the wrecking ball as we speak.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

114. Token posts about North Carolina?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1069

You're wrong.

If I'm not mistaken, no one in our group is leading the anti-Greenwald/Snowden/Assange brigade. That mostly comes from the BOG. And no one from the NC group is leading any pro-Greenwald/Snowden/Assange brigade, either.

[Drunken Irishman]

117. You just proved my point...

It's been relegated to a certain group that has limited traffic (the last reply was Thursday). GD, which is essentially the heart of DU, barely has any posts mentioning what's going on there. It has hardly any posts dealing with abortion, stop and frisk or even the immigration fight that continues to this day. It's almost always about the NSA, with one or two topics discussed that rarely elicit the same passion...even though these are probably, believe it or not, more important and limiting of our rights than whether the NSA is reading your e-mails.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

121. The General Assembly just wrapped up about 3 weeks ago.

I think we're in somewhat of a state of shock and regrouping. Coastal Moral Monday today and state-wide marches on the 28th.

[Drunken Irishman]

128. Hope you're right. Not going to hold my breath, tho...

It's been like this for years on DU. They grab a hold of one issue, run with it and never seem to have the same energy or emotion for other, even more important, issues.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

143. Have you ever used Site Search to see...

who is posting re: NSA/Snowden/Greenwald? I haven't, but another DUer took advantage of the feature recently. Turns out a particularly vocal BOGer, complaining about "obsession," was the OP of what looked like over 100 Snowden threads. LOL It was quite a moment of truth.

I'm just logging on and haven't been to the NC group yet, but here's an article re: yesterday's Moral Monday in Charlotte:

Moral Monday protesters rail against 'Mecklenburg Trio'
http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/08/19/3120620/moral-monday-rails-against-mecklenburg.html



Good turnout, but not as good as Raleigh.

[sagat]

127. Awesome post.

[BumRushDaShow]

130. NAILS IT.

There is a cadre that have made the NSA the sole "issue" and to hell with everything else including the idiotic "Stop and Frisk" or Bloomberg's latest outrage - wanting to require that the poor be finger-printed to enter public housing, etc., where this, IMHO, goes well beyond any biometric technological upgrade. These "local" issues are deemed irrelevant.

There's alot of "tracking" going "locally" (e.g., purchasing allergy medicines in certain states where the driver's license is swiped to track how much is purchased per month) and it's happening in rethug-controlled states and alot of it thanks to ALEC.

There is a growing movement to neutralize ALEC and that barely gets a mention on DU anymore, if at all, now that the hysteria and faux outrage of "NSA" has become the leftist version of "BENGHAZI!!!11!1!11" and overtaken the board.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

107. What's really funny is how many people are out there looking for a hero.

[last1standing]

108. LOL! This is just a jumble of insults that don't even make sense. Does the blogger have Tourettes?

You know the blogger is desperate when they can't even keep their dehumanizing propaganda straight.

Let's see, the "Professional left" is "far Right Extremist" but they're also "libertarian."

Whatever OFA and the DNC is paying that blogger it's far too much. They're making even more of a joke of them than they can manage to do themselves.

The only bigger joke is anyone who actually falls for this low grade propaganda. It's not even middle-school mean girls level.

How very embarrassing for everyone to have to see this at DU.

[Kablooie]

109. I for one put infinite faith in the goodness and honesty of our great American government.

They would never do anything to hurt fine hard working Americans so we have nothing to worry about.

...

Now Agent Johnson, would you please take that damn gun away from my temple.

[Safetykitten]

112. DLC paramour Spandan gets invite to inflate Hirschorn Bubble.

[PowerToThePeople]

115. Trashed n/t

[Cha]

124. "Professional Left's Professional Pimp Julian Assange Comes Out as Far Right Extremist"

Shocked I tell ya! He'd already come out as extreme asshole, afaic.. so what's the difference?

[sagat]

126. +1 for emoprog conniption fits.

[B Calm]

131. K&R

[freshwest]

133. K & R. They can stop hiding behind whatever they thought was sufficient.

[Scurrilous]

137. @#$% Ron Paul!

[Tarheel_Dem]

138. K&R. I love your posts. They get the job done!

[noiretextatique]

140. anyone who believes the term "professional left" has any meaning is american politics

is a real idiot. furthermore, any who doesn't know that moderates and centrists are more of a problem and either of the extremes (one of which has zero power) is also an idiot.

[Bohemianwriter]

141. This was a failure on so many levels....

So just because he is not an "admirer" of some mainstream ass hat, but a weird "doctor" from Texas who says, "legalize weed", "stop warrantless wiretapping", and illegal wars, he is all of a sudden a far RWer?

Assange is a JOURNALIST. His political stance should take a back seat of this.

It's the same as Ron Paulbots were coming out of the woodwork, demanding the release of Bradley Manning, that Manning himself should all of a sudden be affiliated with the "extreme right".

Fact is that mainstream DEMOCRATS have turned RWers, and extremists, all conformists, measuring up to their enemies in the GOP.

I'm a writer.

I have been labeled Marxist, commie, anarchist and many other things.

I have been called a "Jew hater" because I'm not a fan of the war hack regime in Knesset.

Labeling Assange as extremist because he is in admiration for politicians who stands by him is plain ignant...