What would be sweet and ironic is if now another NSA whistle-blower, pissed off at the latest news,

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stepped forward and started releasing info. This thing would then have the lid completely blown off.

[Jackpine Radical]

1. The persecution of Snowden & Manning is designed to prevent exactly this eventuality.

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2. Yep, agreed, which is why it would be so ironic

I'm really hoping this happens.

[HardTimes99]

3. AKA: Demonstration Project (see Valerie Plame and Joseph Wilson) - nt

[HardTimes99]

4. On a different ironic front: were the Brazilian government to declare all British diplomatic

personnel 'personae non grata' and order their exit from Brazil within 9 hours.

Come to think of it, all Latin America might want to sever diplomatic ties with the UK.

[randome]

5. You mean 'a' whistleblower, not 'another' whistleblower.

Snowden is no whistleblower.
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6. wrong

[Hydra]

8. Your opinion is noted

And given due weight based on facts involved...which is to say: none.

[KurtNYC]

7. It is right in our faces yet some choose not to see

"The executive branch has now confirmed that the rules, regulations and court-imposed standards for protecting the privacy of Americans' have been violated thousands of times each year," said senators Ron Wyden and Mark Udall, two leading critics of bulk surveillance, who responded Friday to a Washington Post story based on documents provided by whistleblower Edward Snowden.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/16/nsa-revelations-privacy-breaches-udall-wyden

Congress critters and some of the companies which were coerced into these programs seem itching to have a public debate about what they know. It is all coming out bit by bit and no longer relies in any way on Snowden or Greenwald.

The whistle has been blown and heard and a public debate is now raging.

[Rex]

9. Well if the NSA does decide to layoff 90% of its sysadmins

you see where I am going with this...

[Matariki]

10. Like this perhaps:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023491179

[Pretzel_Warrior]

11. how would it be ironic?

just asking

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14. well, the irony would be since Greenwald said his lover was detained as an act of intimidation,

along with the case that Snowden and Manning have been pursued so relentlessly, it gives the strong impression that the establishment is making a vigorous effort to shut down any more of this happening, like sending a signal, "If you do this and release this secret info, we are going to go after you hard!"

So it would be ironic if, in light of this forbidding atmosphere, another NSA insider came forward and started releasing stuff like Snowden did, which would be the last thing the NSA and the spying establishment would want.

[Pretzel_Warrior]

15. ok. you pass. :D

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16. good to hear

[Autumn]

12. That would be sweet

and so delicious.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. The NSA house of cards is on increasingly shaky ground. One-two-many whistleblowers in the wings.