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LearningCurve

(488 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:28 PM Aug 2013

What Constitutional Amendment Would You Like to See Passed?

None is a valid answer.

For me, there are several, but I'll limit myself to the one I consider to be the most important at this time in our history. I'd like to see term limits for members of Congress. 2 full terms for a senator, 6 full terms for a representative. This forces turnover every 12 years.

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What Constitutional Amendment Would You Like to See Passed? (Original Post) LearningCurve Aug 2013 OP
Voting rights shenmue Aug 2013 #1
How so? LearningCurve Aug 2013 #2
Guaranteeing it. Pab Sungenis Aug 2013 #41
ERA madamesilverspurs Aug 2013 #3
+1. Although if I'm writing a wish list, I'd prefer to see a new version petronius Aug 2013 #42
One that requires the US Government to follow the others. n/t cpwm17 Aug 2013 #4
LOL LearningCurve Aug 2013 #8
I was going to say the Fourth Amendment would be a good place to start. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #11
Overturn Citizens United Blue_In_AK Aug 2013 #5
Campaign finance was a close second on my list LearningCurve Aug 2013 #6
Public financing of Federal elections. Vote as a RIGHT. Deny SCOTUS authority to make law, Force Vincardog Aug 2013 #7
I tend to agree with you on term limits. Jenoch Aug 2013 #9
I'm under no illusion Congress would vote themselves out of a job LearningCurve Aug 2013 #13
I have heard one possibly valid argument against term limits. Jenoch Aug 2013 #14
Hadn't heard that one before LearningCurve Aug 2013 #16
Equal Rights, Citizens United Overturned Initech Aug 2013 #10
I would support a constitutional ban on all campaign contributions for all public offices with Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #12
I can think of one really compelling argument in favor of term limits LearningCurve Aug 2013 #15
or Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #19
As always, I agree with you here cpwm17 Aug 2013 #27
Balanced budget badtoworse Aug 2013 #17
Thanks for responding LearningCurve Aug 2013 #18
Yes, for true emergencies such as declared war. badtoworse Aug 2013 #45
Banning any and all political activity by corporations. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #20
and unions Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #30
DU is an LLC Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #32
So was MSNBC (Now a corporation) dairydog91 Aug 2013 #44
Term limits for members of Congress. ... spin Aug 2013 #21
ERA. That will blow the whole mess right out of the water. bemildred Aug 2013 #22
Right to Privacy MindPilot Aug 2013 #23
ERA LadyHawkAZ Aug 2013 #24
I'd like to see a fourth branch of government to clear away the work of the other three FarCenter Aug 2013 #25
The abolition of the presidential system of government... Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #26
I think our system is better Niceguy1 Aug 2013 #33
Not really Spider Jerusalem Aug 2013 #38
How about: "Fuck with the Constitution, 're-interpret' it, GO TO JAIL." n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #28
Only People Are People ramapo Aug 2013 #29
So you would strip corporations of all of their constitutional protections? Nye Bevan Aug 2013 #37
Repeal of the 2nd mwrguy Aug 2013 #31
Exactly. Socal31 Aug 2013 #40
Votes for dolphins NoPasaran Aug 2013 #34
Finally someone around here is talking sense! LearningCurve Aug 2013 #35
ERA n/t BlueToTheBone Aug 2013 #36
I would like to see the government follow the 4th Amendment. Vashta Nerada Aug 2013 #39
Free candy Glassunion Aug 2013 #43
 

Pab Sungenis

(9,612 posts)
41. Guaranteeing it.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:16 PM
Aug 2013

There is no affirmative right to vote in the Constitution. Enumerating it would help protect the franchise.

petronius

(26,696 posts)
42. +1. Although if I'm writing a wish list, I'd prefer to see a new version
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:26 PM
Aug 2013

that was completely inclusive of the entire spectrum of sex and gender identities...

 

LearningCurve

(488 posts)
6. Campaign finance was a close second on my list
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:34 PM
Aug 2013

Something like this would be number 2 on my list.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
7. Public financing of Federal elections. Vote as a RIGHT. Deny SCOTUS authority to make law, Force
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:34 PM
Aug 2013

SCOTUS to abide by the same ethic rules as every other court.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
9. I tend to agree with you on term limits.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:36 PM
Aug 2013

However, the people who vote on these these issues are the people who's time in office would become limited, so I don't think term limits will ever come to pass for the U.S. Congress.

 

LearningCurve

(488 posts)
13. I'm under no illusion Congress would vote themselves out of a job
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:40 PM
Aug 2013

My first choice is certainly not the most easily achievable. In fact, almost any other amendment I can think of has a better chance of passing.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
14. I have heard one possibly valid argument against term limits.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:43 PM
Aug 2013

If there was that much turnover, then the staff people would end up with more power than they already have. I don't know enough about the staff to make an informed decision on that one.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
12. I would support a constitutional ban on all campaign contributions for all public offices with
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:40 PM
Aug 2013

language that would effectively remove money from politics altogether or as much as possible.


I cannot imagine any conceivable advantage I can think of to term limits. I would strongly oppose that.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
27. As always, I agree with you here
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:10 PM
Aug 2013

This is the number one issue. You fix the legal corruption problem, many of the other problems will partly correct themselves.

 

LearningCurve

(488 posts)
18. Thanks for responding
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:46 PM
Aug 2013

I'm curious, any provisions for emergencies? For instance, times of war.

 

badtoworse

(5,957 posts)
45. Yes, for true emergencies such as declared war.
Fri Aug 23, 2013, 01:00 PM
Aug 2013

These would be difficult to invoke and the vast majority of deficit spending we've seen over the last 30 years or so would not have qualified.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
30. and unions
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:18 PM
Aug 2013

It grinds my gears to see my dues raised for political purposes and to support candidates that I am voting against.

dairydog91

(951 posts)
44. So was MSNBC (Now a corporation)
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 06:43 PM
Aug 2013

Dailykos is an LLC
HuffingtonPost is a corporation
MotherJones is a corporation
AlterNet is owned by a corporation

There's a lot going on in the concept of "Corporate free speech". Unfortunately it usually gets glossed over in favor of a simple narrative based on peculiar ideas about what "corporations" actually are.

spin

(17,493 posts)
21. Term limits for members of Congress. ...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:49 PM
Aug 2013

We already limit the President to two terms. I see no reason to for a politician to serve more than 30 years in the Congress which would mean four terms in the Senate or twelve terms in the House.

After 30 years it's time for a congressman to retire and move on. Most who support this idea favor a far lower limit on the number of terms but I do see some true value in experience.

I retired after working 37 years for a large corporation and to be honest, I was burned out.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
22. ERA. That will blow the whole mess right out of the water.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:49 PM
Aug 2013

But Campaign finance reform is a close second.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
23. Right to Privacy
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:52 PM
Aug 2013

Privacy is infered in the 4th, but I would like to see an explict right to privacy amendment that extended privacy protections beyond due process.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
24. ERA
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:53 PM
Aug 2013

Separation of church and state, including barring special privileges for religious institutions.

Public campaign finance at the state and federal levels and a permanent ban on campaign donations.

Uniform rules for recall of a federal elected official.

A updated form of the Fairness Doctrine.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
25. I'd like to see a fourth branch of government to clear away the work of the other three
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:56 PM
Aug 2013

It should be set up away from Washington, consist of 435 members, one from each congressional district, and it should be able to:
- repeal laws,
- retract regulations,
- countermand executive orders, and
- nullify court decisions and precedents.

Just like a forest needs fungus and rot to clear away the fallen leaves and branches, the government needs a body that can do the same with the unwise or outmoded products of the other three branches.

It should be set up in some place like Rapid City, South Dakota. It should only meet for 90 days each year. Lobbyists, foreign agents and diplomats, and other bought influence peddlers should be forbidden from approaching nearer than 100 miles.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
26. The abolition of the presidential system of government...
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 03:58 PM
Aug 2013

and its replacement by parliamentary government with both houses elected by proportional representation (and an end to the over-representation of under-populated states) and the role of the upper house limited to that of a revising body with the ability to delay but not to block legislation from the lower house (as under the British system).

The US system of government is inherently and fundamentally flawed; it needs radical reform, not just ill-conceived band-aids like term limits (which are a bad idea anyway).

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
33. I think our system is better
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:21 PM
Aug 2013

You get the best of both worlds. I don't thonk that the smaller states shpuld be domiinated bt rhe bigger ones...

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
38. Not really
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:54 PM
Aug 2013

it's measurably worse in most respects. As it is, equal representation in the Senate means that conservative states that account for less than 30% of the population of the entire country can block legislation that most Americans want passed. Why should a minority of the population have the political power to thwart progress and impose reactionary social policies?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
37. So you would strip corporations of all of their constitutional protections?
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 04:42 PM
Aug 2013

How about unions? Nonprofits such as Planned Parenthood? LLC's such as DemocraticUnderground? Because these are not "people" either.

Socal31

(2,491 posts)
40. Exactly.
Thu Aug 22, 2013, 05:00 PM
Aug 2013

Then we can replace it with one making drugs illegal, which should take care of the drug issue as well.

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