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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJohn BOLTON Dodges Question From Vet & Insults Him-Fox Edits Out Booing & Replaces It With Applause
FOX edits, fakes applause for John Bolton pro-war statementBolton dodges question from anti-war veteran about blowback, insults him; Fox edits out the audience booing and replaces with it applause.
The 2-minute video is a public meeting of former US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton responding to a US war veterans question. The video shows that FOX then edits-out the audience response to replace it with applause from a different persons question. The proof is that the applause-segment shows a different person walking away from the microphone than the person who asked the question. The veteran testified that the audience booed Mr. Boltons answer.
JUST WATCH!!!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/2-minute-video-fox-edits-fakes-applause-for-john-bolton-pro-war-statement.html
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)zbdent
(35,392 posts)Faux could lie.
mazzarro
(3,450 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)it. the reporter said she didnt want to lie to the public and fox fired her. she sued and lost and that's what the judge said , as her employer they can tell her to lie
jonthebru
(1,034 posts)New Yawker
(62 posts)It's a major issue.
Media should NOT have any right to lie to the public.
Fine. Label Fox as "Not necessarily the news". Remember that old HBO series?
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)Stalin would be JEALOUS.
"If only I had propaganda arm like that, Pravda looks like amateurs next to Fox!"
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)shcrane71
(1,721 posts)haven't realized the same about the Faux network... even with Murdoch's investigations in the UK.
Quantess
(27,630 posts)The guy who asked the question that got applause wore full length sleeves.
oldhippydude
(2,514 posts)in freedom to bare arms!!
Quantess
(27,630 posts)teddy51
(3,491 posts)stockholmer
(3,751 posts)chrisa
(4,524 posts)Seriously, why did I bump this? Haha
vanlassie
(5,665 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,300 posts)Thanks for the thread, kpete.
socialindependocrat
(1,372 posts)Do we have a minister of propaganda assigned yet?
Where is the oversight?
You know how to save money?
We get rid of all the oversight committees because they don't do their jobs anyway!
That ought to save us billions!
bluedigger
(17,086 posts)Propaganda was privatized back in the mid 80's.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)shows how insane right wingers are to believe in such bullshit, but they have to, because they are guilty of what they project, and too dishonest, and weak to admit to it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Then, again, the rest of Corporate McPravda would run with it if they weren't liars, too.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)I know I prefer feeling safe when I walk to the car at night.
SemperEadem
(8,053 posts)took fux's side when Obama made the remark that they weren't really news. Every news outlet stood with fux even though they all know that they lie.
IMO, the fux's editors have absolutely no professional integrity. They're whores trying to make a buck.
90-percent
(6,828 posts)My hope is that Keith will run with this. It is right up his Fox bashing alley. And if there was ever a news organization that deserved bashing, it is so Fox/Rupert/Ailes.
However , it should be the FCC and Congressional hearings doing the bashing.
-90% Jimmy
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)I don't know how many times they labeled some Republican that had just been busted as a Democrat, but they did it many times.
There is no truth at Faux Snooze.
The Wielding Truth
(11,411 posts)progress2k12nbynd
(221 posts)daleanime
(17,796 posts)just trying to keep track of all those lies is a pretty rough job.
Lord knows I wouldn't last a day.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,239 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Perfectly normal to re-visit footage of an event in which one participated. It appears he noticed the deception, because the applause didn't fit his recollection of the crowd's response.
David West
(104 posts)I don't even have anything more than an antenna for my TV and I really didn't think my question would make the final cut (for obvious reasons) so I didn't even go out of my way to watch the episode when it aired. Someone else who had been at the event messaged me on FB congratulating me for having made the cut, so I hopped online and found the episode. I was just going to put up the clip for family and friends to see when I caught the ridiculous editing job they did and figured I should point that out to people.
David West
(104 posts)Glad to see this is getting some exposure. I actually posted about this yesterday. I'm the guy asking the question in the video. I'm amazed my question made the show at all! Not so surprised about the skulduggerous editing, though. Having been there and KNOWING that he got booed and being a filmmaker and video editor myself, it wasn't hard at all to spot the edit. I wish I had access to a higher quality copy, but it's pretty obvious that it switches from me with no hat and a dark green shirt with rolled up sleeves to a dude with a fedora and rolled down black sleeves. If you look around the 0:20 when the camera is behind me, you can see the guy with the hat standing there. All they did was use the (very meager) applause from the very next question. Very, very dishonest editing. I'm almost surprised they didn't try to make me get booed!
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Did you see the story on 2 vets arrested Friday at a Rumsfeld event? ...
Two arrested at Rumsfeld event at Truman Library
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002350107
kpete
(71,965 posts)THANK YOU!
peace, kpete
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)How creepy can Faux News get? They keep lowering the bar for liars.
Lies, lies, lies, is all they've got to serve, and stupid people just eat those lies right up. Yum. Yum.
for confronting that mean POS.
mmonk
(52,589 posts)They need to be called on how they operate in a public way.
renate
(13,776 posts)(That's real applause, by the way.)
drm604
(16,230 posts)and thank you!
librechik
(30,674 posts)we all hate Fox over here (or mostly)
stockholmer
(3,751 posts)Faryn Balyncd
(5,125 posts)edhopper
(33,491 posts)Sure they lie, but they lie for the right reasons. Besides, the rest of the lame-stream media lies for the lib-er-al left.
Anyway I'm an idiot.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)then they are truly fekked. A lie can hurt millions of people. Lying about iraq has cost this country and iraq, thousands of lives and has cost us billions of dollars. What lie would be for the "right" reason, and for whom? So, the truth, even if they don't like it; is worse than the lies told.
We, as a country, have truly gone down the rabbit hole, when americans who proudly wear those flag pins or wave it on their auto; seem to be okay with lying propaganda that pushes an agenda that helps global corporations OVER THEIR OWN DAMN COUNTRY AND ITS' PEOPLE!!!
How fekked up do you have to be to continue to believe the divisive bullshite against other fellow americans propagated by a network started by a cretin who wasn't even from this country?
I remember after 9/11, all the congresscritters putting on their little flag pins. Those pins were originally for congresscritters who actually served their country in the military. But, then, all of the chickenhawks could wear them. And there was faux, castigating some democrat for not wearing a flag pin. Because those pins were once a badge of someone who faithfully served their country in the military.
Yeah, faux viewers, keep thinking you're the real americans, while you get played by a network with their own agenda, which may not be in the best interest for our country or the majority of americans.
Bainbridge Bear
(155 posts)where did you get that, from Sarah Palin? The so-called librul media is deeply and increasingly corporatist so what are you complaining about? Oh well, your last sentence seems true.
edhopper
(33,491 posts)it was ?
think
(11,641 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)pathological nut cases without a shred of decency.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)shit and then wants to President to implement their bullshit policies in their timeframe.
eggplant
(3,909 posts)I would, but I don't know how.
Vincardog
(20,234 posts)Or is he saying that they have already been jailed for their roles in the illegal wars and war crimes?
NICO9000
(970 posts)Born in 1948 - perfect draft age. What a hunk of fuck this guy is.
chrisa
(4,524 posts)And yet this tool tells an Iraq war veteran what he should think of his experiences. Hmm...
NCcoast
(480 posts)Sociopathic chicken st!ts like John Bolton are adept at using peoples principles against them. You'd have to be completely devoid of conscious to sit there and lecture people who served in a war you worked to create but would have never exposed yourself to danger of. Good on that soldier for standing up to that little rat. Men like Bolton should be constantly treated to open contempt. It's not like the media is going to do their job and call him out for what he is. It's up to us.
90-percent
(6,828 posts)That Bolton is absolutely infuriating. Report it to your superiors hes telling you to be a whistle blower! Like its easy and no big deal. His own administration, and perhaps much more so Obamas, sets out to crush and destroy whistle blowers. Think of what he would have said about you if you had followed his advice back then, hed probably have tried to publicly destroy you.
Another implication of his, based on his Pulitzer Prize caliber weasel wording, was that you wouldnt feel so bad if you had not committed war crimes and killed babies and instead simply followed US rules of engagement. Then you wouldnt be so upset at your long history of war crimes.
My one call to the great Thom Hartmann was asking about the fact that, in our country, it is perfectly legal to knowingly lie on a news broadcast. Steel Trap Thom was all over it, as he once hosted the principals from the Florida Fox News station on his show.
How many Americas know that anything they learn in any American media can range to professional well researched JOURNALISM to absolute bullshit propaganda?
David West: Thank you for serving, thank you for speaking truth to power in the belly of the beast. Thank you for being a great American. Thank you for your contribution to this video. Lastly, thanks for being on DU. It is an honor!
-90% Jimmy
onehandle
(51,122 posts)AlanGrayson
(1 post)The Fairness Doctrine will certainly help to get those propagandists off the airwaves.
The way we have it set up now, it is like you are in court, and the only person allowed to make a case against you is the prosecutor, and he is allowed to say whatever he wants...in fact, he can lie with impunity.
That is exactly what the Conservative movement has done in this country. They built a playing field where they are free to say anything in the name of free speech, and get away with the presentation of false information as being reliable enough to allow the listener to decide. Let's go back to the prosecutor. How bad a prosecutor would he have to be to lose any case before the court? There is no advocate for you that is telling your side of the story, there is no one there to say "I object" when the prosecutor lies, and you hear them call it fair and balanced justice.
If you cannot see that decisions that are based on false information are usually poor decisions, you need look no further than the Iraq War. No WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, just mass distraction.
Reinstate the fairness doctrine, and you'll see Fox News fall.
wial
(437 posts)and worst propaganda organ in the world
Rex
(65,616 posts)right onscreen! If it is something BAD...then the person usually gets a D by their name (even if it is wrong) and if it is GOOD...then the person gets a R by their name. It is sad that there are no laws against this kind of thing. Foxnews should be held accountable for lying to the public, but it is what they do and it seems they will continue to get away with it.
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)violation of trust of Fox News viewers. Why is it they would ignore such a thing. I don't want others here trying to answer for them.. I want to see the media explain itself to the American people. This shit needs to end if we want to save our democracy... we are looking like the Soviet Union more and more and look who is leading the charge.. the right wing media, those who claim to hate totalitarian communists, etc. Bunch of lying sociopaths.
TownDrunk2
(63 posts)Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Misinforming the public is their mission statement.
underpants
(182,632 posts)ABC had to publicly apologize for Stossel twice. He is a joke.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I know a lot of Vets feel this way about war, a huge number. Especially Vietnam Vets.
David West
(104 posts)I'm certainly glad I'm not the only one who remembers booing, because this video throws me off a bit. I'm definitely still right though that people did NOT applaud Bolton's answer. If anything the smattering of applause are for me trying to rebut Bolton or just people doing the typical clap
What you still don't see is the people in the back corner of the room where my seat was hugging me and shaking my hand and telling me Bolton can go, "Go F*** himself" as I'm on my way to my seat. Between that and the fact that I was practically seeing red listening to Bolton, I guess that is what is coloring my memory of the event. Still, pretty manipulative editing by Fox to make it look like that answer got applause.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/stossel/blog/2012/02/27/unedited-students-liberty-video-0