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Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:24 PM

 

So, yeah...remember that whole Iraq war thing? Remember all the refugees flooding into Syria?

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Remember the Iraq war? Millions of displaced Iraqis running for their lives? A couple million of them wound up in Syria, thanks to Syria's open-door citizenship policy for Muslims around the world.

To wit: if you're Muslim and come to Syria, you'll get housing and assistance until you land a job...but hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees tore that welcome mat apart by dint of sheer mass.

There were food riots in Syria a few short years ago. The government had to sharply curtail the largesse they gave their new Muslim immigrants, and resentment festered. Plus, a lot of people were pissed about what happened in Iraq. Syrian society was put under enormous stress, and began to fray.

So, yeah, the Iraq war probably had at least something to do with the reasons why Syria descended into civil war. Kinda sorta. And stuff.

And the lead cheerleader for that disaster?

Oh, he's painting cats now.

These New George W. Bush Paintings May Herald a "Cat Period"
http://gawker.com/these-new-george-w-bush-paintings-may-herald-a-cat-pe-1209373403

Motherfucker.

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Reply So, yeah...remember that whole Iraq war thing? Remember all the refugees flooding into Syria? (Original post)
WilliamPitt Aug 2013 OP
Dreamer Tatum Aug 2013 #1
WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #3
Civilization2 Aug 2013 #48
truedelphi Aug 2013 #53
leftstreet Aug 2013 #2
joeybee12 Aug 2013 #4
Enthusiast Aug 2013 #37
Kennah Aug 2013 #58
progressoid Aug 2013 #5
HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #6
TexasProgresive Aug 2013 #17
HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #26
Ghost Dog Aug 2013 #33
whoopingcrone Aug 2013 #19
KamaAina Aug 2013 #7
bvar22 Aug 2013 #8
Hydra Aug 2013 #13
Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #9
WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #18
Autumn Aug 2013 #10
Link Speed Aug 2013 #11
spanone Aug 2013 #12
lastlib Aug 2013 #14
kestrel91316 Aug 2013 #15
Zorra Aug 2013 #16
freshwest Aug 2013 #31
NealK Aug 2013 #20
obxhead Aug 2013 #21
Cleita Aug 2013 #22
LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #45
KoKo Aug 2013 #23
etherealtruth Aug 2013 #24
kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #30
etherealtruth Aug 2013 #36
Scootaloo Aug 2013 #25
DeSwiss Aug 2013 #27
railsback Aug 2013 #28
ozone_man Aug 2013 #34
Demeter Aug 2013 #42
Drunken Irishman Aug 2013 #51
truedelphi Aug 2013 #57
WillyT Aug 2013 #29
freshwest Aug 2013 #32
Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #35
steve2470 Aug 2013 #38
KrazyinKS Aug 2013 #39
TBF Aug 2013 #40
Demeter Aug 2013 #41
sinkingfeeling Aug 2013 #43
Tom_Foolery Aug 2013 #44
Township75 Aug 2013 #46
truedelphi Aug 2013 #54
suffragette Aug 2013 #47
libodem Aug 2013 #49
Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2013 #50
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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:25 PM

1. Syria was a backward-assed murderous regime long before Iraq. nt

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

3. Enduring a civil war?

 

You fail.

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Response to Dreamer Tatum (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:52 AM

48. ok,. then Iraq must have had not effect then,. .

 

War begets war,. peace begets peace.

If we would simply not fight/cause wars, for corporations and banksters, and instead work at social uplift, the world would be a much better place.

reminds me;

“The world is like a ride in an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real because that's how powerful our minds are. The ride goes up and down, around and around, it has thrills and chills, and it's very brightly colored, and it's very loud, and it's fun for a while. Many people have been on the ride a long time, and they begin to wonder, "Hey, is this real, or is this just a ride?" And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and say, "Hey, don't worry; don't be afraid, ever, because this is just a ride." And we … kill those people. "Shut him up! I've got a lot invested in this ride, shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry, look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill the good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok … But it doesn't matter, because it's just a ride. And we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings of money. Just a simple choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love instead see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would pay for many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace.”


― Bill Hicks

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Response to Civilization2 (Reply #48)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:28 PM

53. Thank you. I hav ebeen thinking a

Lot about Bill Hicks myself, during these troubled hours.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:26 PM

2. Good Gawdz. Are those paint-by-number?

DURec for the post

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:29 PM

4. I hate Bush even more now that he's painting cats...

 

Cats are wonderful...he should not be associated with them at all.

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Response to joeybee12 (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:05 AM

37. He doesn't deserve cats.

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Response to Enthusiast (Reply #37)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 05:01 PM

58. May cats everywhere visit hairballs upon him and his for seven generations

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:33 PM

5. Meh.

I'm sure after we drop a few dozen bombs on them, they'll be right as rain.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:37 PM

6. I always wondered what happened to Riverbend.

 

The Baghdad is Burning blogger. Her last posts were shortly after arriving in Syria, IIRC.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:32 PM

17. She posted again in April

Baghdad Burning
http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/
... I'll meet you 'round the bend my friend, where hearts can heal and souls can mend...
Tuesday, April 09, 2013

Ten Years On...
April 9, 2013 marks ten years since the fall of Baghdad. Ten years since the invasion. Since the lives of millions of Iraqis changed forever. It’s difficult to believe. It feels like only yesterday I was sharing day to day activities with the world. I feel obliged today to put my thoughts down on the blog once again, probably for the last time.

In 2003, we were counting our lives in days and weeks. Would we make it to next month? Would we make it through the summer? Some of us did and many of us didn't.

Back in 2003, one year seemed like a lifetime ahead. The idiots said, “Things will improve immediately.” The optimists were giving our occupiers a year, or two… The realists said, “Things won’t improve for at least five years.” And the pessimists? The pessimists said, “It will take ten years. It will take a decade.”

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:16 PM

26. Thanks.

 

I followed her blog. Glad to hear she's alive and as well as can be expected. I hope she'll still post occasionally.

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Response to TexasProgresive (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:09 PM

33. What a beautiful person,

 

to be much respected.

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:37 PM

19. Riverbend Update

She posted again this April and mentioned that the
family left Syria "before the heavy fighting started."

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:43 PM

7. That loud thud you just heard

 

was another large chunk of our moral authority for an attack crashing to the ground.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:45 PM

8. Goodwin would not approve, but poor George's art....

...bears a marked likeness to Hitler's.

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Response to bvar22 (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:06 PM

13. It really does, doesn't it?

Just screams "blah..."

I have to say though, the German blah is almost pleasant compared to the Faux Texan's.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:49 PM

9. I hope you don't mind hearing how good you are when you are on a topic you are familiar with.

 

Your posts today have been excellent.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:35 PM

18. Thanks!

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:52 PM

10. I consoled myself for quite a while that Bush was irrelevant and had slid into the dustbin

of history. I was wrong, his policies and murderous mistakes still endure.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 06:58 PM

11. That's because the same people are running The Show

 

The faces you see on teevee and the floors of government are merely Trick Ponies.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:03 PM

12. the repercussions from that motherfucker are being felt right now

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:09 PM

14. Him and Cheney and the PNACer gang..!

FUCK 'EM ALL!! with a rusty syphilis-infected pitchfork!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:22 PM

15. Those poor dogs (the yellow ones) look like their heads are deformed by skull tumors.

 

We need a smiley that is sadly shaking its head.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:24 PM

16. It's part of how the 1% - MIC - Neoliberalcon doctrine of eternal war works.

THE THIRD PIECE MIGRATION, THE ERRANT NIGHTMARE.

We spoke beforehand of the existence of new territories, at the end of the Third World War, which awaited conquest (the old socialist countries), and of others which should have been re-conquered by the "new world order". In order to achieve it, the financial centers carried out a criminal and brutal third strategy; the proliferation of "regional wars" and "internal conflicts", which mobilized great masses of workers and allowed capital to follow routes of atypical accumulation.

The results of this world war of conquest was a great ring of millions of migrants in all the world "Foreigners" in the world "without borders" which the victors of the Third World War promised. Millions of people suffered xenophobic persecution, precarious labor conditions, loss of cultural identity, police repression, hunger, prison, death.

With different names, under a judicial differentiation, sharing an equality of misery, the migrants or refugees or displaced of all the world are "foreigners" who are tolerated or rejected. The nightmare of migration, whatever its causes, continues to roll and grow over the planet's surface. The number of people who are accounted for in the statistics of the UN High Commission on Refugees has grown disproportionately from some 2 million in 1975 to 27 million in 1995.

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Response to Zorra (Reply #16)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:03 PM

31. Very good piece. Will read it.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:39 PM

20. Iraq war thing? Doesn't ring a bell.

Now let's bomb Syria because we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a Sarin cloud.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:52 PM

21. Now, maybe more than a decade later for some of the refugees

 

They will fear once again being injured or killed by American missiles and bombs.

I just don't get it. If Romney were talking about a strike on Syria today DU would be in a unanimous uproar over it.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:55 PM

22. Was he getting too wrinkly in the bathtub?

Maybe one of his models might claw his balls off. It will be the only justice he will ever be served.

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Response to Cleita (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:12 AM

45. Awesome post, Cleita.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 07:55 PM

23. Indeed...Bizarre...but, so many of us Love Cats..how can we deny his

Pleasure with them..and his connection with those of us who Love the Kitteh's.

He does have a least ONE Good Side to his BLACK HEART....he loves our Kitteh's.

And God will shine on him for that...if he repents for the "kitteh's he KILLED" with his War Policy. THEY WERE INNOCENT and HE KILLED THEM!

It's true, Will...he did. Along with the Children and Families who loved them...

And when you kill a kids and families fellow dwellers (their pets) you've killed another or other "Innocents."

Just saying.... War kills everything in it's path. And the things that matter the most.

Bush needs to REPENT HIS SINS...before he paints another KITTEH Portrait.

He's still SCUM...but, his whole personality is so twisted...that Repentance for his Crimes is the only way he will ever find his true artist's talents in DARING to PORTRAIT PAINT...a KITTEH...because....THEY KNOW! They ALWAYS KNOW...

(Just going off on this...pay no mind..)

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:05 PM

24. My former neighbors were Iraqi immigrants

(immigrated prior to "the war" to escape Saddam Hussein)

Many in their family moved to Syria when we attacked Iraq hoping to flee war zones. They are weighing heavily on my mind.

Not that it really matters, but they are Christian ad have not fared well.

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:59 PM

30. They weren't bothered as Christians in Iraq before we invaded. Sadaam's Amb to US was Christian

 

But of course this really doesn't matter to the US.

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Response to kelliekat44 (Reply #30)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:41 PM

36. No they were not bothered because they were Christian

Tarik Aziz (sp) was Christian .... however, Samir and Maisa fled specifically because of Saddam Hussein

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:09 PM

25. The plan to dissolve the Middle East continues as scheduled

 

Don't let people fool you, this agenda didn't appear with PNAC - they just articulated and consolidated the points that had been in motion since Truman.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:17 PM

27. Motherfucker, indeed.

 

- K&R

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:27 PM

28. So, we forced Assad to bomb peaceful protesters who just wanted more freedom

 

Man, we are evil!

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Response to railsback (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:12 PM

34. During war, the first casualty is truth.

I would offer a corollary that in the run up to war, the first casualty is truth. Who is funding these so called rebels? Will Syria look like Iraq does now if we invade? I think so.

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Response to ozone_man (Reply #34)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:30 AM

42. And how is that different from "peace"?

 

Or is it perpetual war yet?

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Response to railsback (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:21 PM

51. Yes. Assad is actually a good guy.

 

Don't be fooled by the propaganda. Trust Russia on this. They're really the truthful nation. Nothing is happening in Syria. All these videos are fabricated.

Don't buy the lie!

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Response to railsback (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:30 PM

57. Well probably not.

I mean, I''m not sure that we can be blamed for this, if it indeed happened. But those of us who ave been around the block a few times are understandably dubious - Gulf of Tonkin, Weapons of Mass Destruction and all that. Kuwaiti babies thrown out of their incubators by the ever nasty Iraqi soldiers, and how that turned out to be a "fib."

And then there is the overwhelming notion that maybe as a nation, we are not the best nation to come forward and say, Shame on you!

After all, Assad did not give the orders for My Lai, or Abu Gharib. Nor did he lie a nation of three hundred million people into our attack on Iraq.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 08:51 PM

29. K & R !!!

 


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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:04 PM

32. Good perspective on how this evolved. Thanks.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Tue Aug 27, 2013, 09:15 PM

35. All that's missing from this venture is the cowboy boots and smirk.

 

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 06:31 AM

38. k&r nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:24 AM

39. Good Point!

Thanks for refreshing out memory, a little history always helps to try to understand things. A little point we haven't heard about from other news sources.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 07:44 AM

40. I'm grateful you linked to the cats as opposed to the nude series. nt

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:29 AM

41. The past is not dead. It's not even past.

 

William Faulkner

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:40 AM

43. And Syrians have been pouring into both Jordan and Egypt since 2012. I met

an absolutely adorable Syrian lad of about 15 or 16 in Alexandria last fall. He came up to my sister and I in a mall and asked if we were American. I told him yes and he expressed his 'love of your Obama' He said he had been sent to relatives in Egypt to avoid being caught up in the violence in Syria. I wish I could have brought him home. I think of him a lot these days.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 09:43 AM

44. He signs his work with "43"...

He is just a number now.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:17 AM

46. So is his going to be the new excuse to support attacking Syria?

Our Dem president didn't have much of a choice because of that Bush guy?

We can support it if somehow attacking Syria is a reflection of how bad Bush was.

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Response to Township75 (Reply #46)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 03:32 PM

54. Playbook Number Forty - what to do when your Pres. Polling Numbers are

In the Toilet:

When as President your polling numbers start declining, proceed at once to announcing the moral high ground of having to fight a new war. Ignore any common sense facts about why it would not be good to do so.

Also do not be concerned about the cost. There is ALWAYS enough money for the military endeavors; the middle class has no ability to resist the tax increases.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 10:33 AM

47. Will, leave it to you to look at history and unintended consequences and stuff

When so many others are busy pounding the drums of war.

Love you for doing that

Keep it up!

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 11:54 AM

49. Thank you Will

For bringing this out. Syria has a very vulnerable population of refugees from Iraq because of us. Putting them back in a war zone seems horribly wrong. Those people need protection and help. Not more war.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 01:09 PM

50. I'm quite happy for Chimpy to be painting...

...cats or whatever he likes -- so long as it's from behind prison bars where he, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Blair and a host of other war criminals rightly belong.

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:18 PM

55. Fortunately we're looking forward and ignoring past crimes.

 

I mean, what the hell can possibly be gained from prosecuting petty crimes like manufacturing war?

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Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

Wed Aug 28, 2013, 04:27 PM

56. The Mad Bomber strikes again (NT)

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