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(32,017 posts)-Laelth
leftstreet
(36,111 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)What did you have in mind?
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)policies.
Good to know your political behavior is on a fairly superficial level.
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)RebelOne
(30,947 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)obxhead
(8,434 posts)I wish that guy would come back, he was pretty cool.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)get some accountability for the War Crimes that were committed, plus the deliberate lies that dragged this country into endless war and caused the deaths of over 6,000 of our troops and over a million Iraqis and drained our economy. Plus accountability for the Wall St. corruption that crashed the world's economies, destroying the lives of millions of people across the globe.
I despise the Bush agenda and what it did to this and other countries.
What did you vote for?
brooklynite
(94,703 posts)After he had engaged in military activity in Libya in response to civilian casualties?
So either you're a warmonger, or you simply don't care...OR you support the President's ability to make decisions on issues like this.
Which one?
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)brooklynite
(94,703 posts)I felt that I generally supported what Obama had accomplished and what he planned to do, and I thought he'd do far better than Romney.
I believe they call that "reality".
Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)If you want to set up a straw man like that, I'll be happy to burn it down.
I voted for Obama in 2012, too. It's not because I'm a warmonger. After believing, like Sabrina, that the federal government would become transparent and accountable after eight years of the Bush-Cheney junta, I voted to re-elect the President in spite of being very disappointed in the progress he's made in reversing what ails America.
Yes, I voted for Obama in 2012. I make no secret that I held my nose as I did. It's not my fault or Sabrina's that Obama had reduced himself to the lesser of two evils, but at least he succeeded at being better than Bush. Do you think that's an ambitious standard, Brooklynite? I said before the election that I was voting for Obama because, while the country was still in trouble after the damage done by the Bush junta and it wouldn't survive a Romney presidency; under Obama, America had a chance.
That chance looks very dim right now. Not all of it is Obama's doing. The obstinate reactionary Republican Party has a lot to do with it, too. The Democrats had enough crooked members on the Senate Banking Committee to keep a public option out of the Affordable Care Act. Nevertheless, no one made the President sign the Defense Authorization bill that gave him the power to circumvent due precess for American citizens; no one made the President continue the Bush policy of mass surveillance with a weak argument that his cosmetic changes to the process make it OK; no one made the President order drone strikes; and no one is keeping the President from firing his worthless Attorney General for prosecuting medical marijuana patients more aggressively than crooked Wall Street bankers or pursuing whistleblowers who inform the public of what the public has a right to know anyway more aggressively than Bush junta war criminals. However, Obama ended waterboarding, so at least he's better than the Bush junta.
An America that spies on its citizens and engages in imperial wars for natural resources in the Middle East is not the America I learned about in a high school civics class in 1969. An America that spies on its citizens and engages in imperial wars is not America.
avebury
(10,952 posts)we have received in return for our votes.
What is sad is that,no matter how much you hate the Republicans, they are pretty open about their intentions. Way too often, too many of the Democrats will campaign on selling you a bill of goods that time will show they never intended on following up on. Call me extremely skeptical going into the 2014 Midterms and 2016 Presidential elections.
I want the 2007 Obama back. Heck he can't run for re-election so why doesn't he just get right out there, draw a line in the sand, and beat the crap out of the otherside? I am ready to sit out the next election and possible the 2016 Presidential election. My vote needs to be earned, it will no longer be given away to the undeserving.
tridim
(45,358 posts)progressoid
(49,996 posts)That makes these bombs, Peace Bombs!
Harmony Blue
(3,978 posts)darkangel218
(13,985 posts)lets be honest, we don't know.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
AsahinaKimi
(20,776 posts)of a World Police badge
It clashes with my... well, everything!
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)Otherwise the Republicans will win.
valerief
(53,235 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)cjbgreen
(181 posts)We kill children in our country and in the world by denying health care, poverty, drones, chemicals (BP disaster, Fracking, nuclear disasters, DDT), and illegal wars. So do other countries have the right to punish us? What about our violations of human rights and our total disregard of International Law?
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)on children and other civilians?
Me neither.
P.S. I don't know what the correct response is to this situation. I'm just pointing out that nobody voted for another war but sometimes circumstances change and we have to decide the best way to respond to them.
Paper Roses
(7,474 posts)I'm sick and tired of it. Been around since 1942 and seen so many wars, I have trouble even reading about it.
How many more lives and dollars are we expected to give for the rest of the world. I feel we need to care for our own.
Can someone tell me why we are the policeman of the rest of civilization?
We have people at hone in dire straits, need we find it necessary to police everyone else on the planet?
randome
(34,845 posts)You don't vote on people to do what you want them to do. You vote for people to make decisions in your name.
I can understand that you don't like this specific decision but every politician should make decisions based on current reality, not to please those who voted him/her into office.
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davidn3600
(6,342 posts)Polls are actually pretty amazing....Republicans and Democrats are actually agreeing on something yet the government does the opposite.
randome
(34,845 posts)Be guided by it, even. He should not make his decisions solely on what the majority say he should do.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)Put your title on a bumper sticker. It means nothing.