Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

xchrom

(108,903 posts)
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 09:42 AM Dec 2011

Vaclav Havel, Dissident Playwright Who Led Czechoslovakia, Dead at 75

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/world/europe/vaclav-havel-dissident-playwright-who-led-czechoslovakia-dead-at-75.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

PRAGUE — Vaclav Havel, the dissident playwright who wove theater into politics to peacefully bring down communism in Czechoslovakia and become a hero of the epic struggle that ended the Cold War, has died. He was 75.

Mr. Havel died Sunday morning at his weekend house in the northern Czech Republic, his assistant Sabina Tancecova said said.

Mr. Havel was his country’s first democratically elected president after the nonviolent “Velvet Revolution” that ended four decades of repression by a regime he ridiculed as “Absurdistan.”

As president, he oversaw the country’s bumpy transition to democracy and a free-market economy, as well its peaceful 1993 breakup into the Czech Republic and Slovakia.






*** sir, you are gone too soon
12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Vaclav Havel, Dissident Playwright Who Led Czechoslovakia, Dead at 75 (Original Post) xchrom Dec 2011 OP
Vaclev was a hardcore Zappa fan. 90-percent Dec 2011 #1
Oh, that is hilarious! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #5
RIP. A good man. Robb Dec 2011 #2
I support the use of violence to overthrow Soviet-style communism. kestrel91316 Dec 2011 #6
Oh, I'm down with it. Just a pet peeve of mine. Robb Dec 2011 #8
A truly great man Botany Dec 2011 #3
RIP, Vaclav! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #4
RIP to a brave man n/t RZM Dec 2011 #7
kicked Botany Dec 2011 #9
His writings on humanity and freedom up to and a little into his time in office Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #10
Gone much too soon. Dewey Finn Dec 2011 #11
Too soon indeed DeathToTheOil Dec 2011 #12

90-percent

(6,956 posts)
1. Vaclev was a hardcore Zappa fan.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 10:16 AM
Dec 2011
http://www.radio.cz/en/section/curraffrs/frank-zappas-connections-to-prague

From the link above:

Then, in January 1990, Vaclav Havel appointed Frank Zappa as "Special Ambassador to the West on Trade, Culture and Tourism," much to the disgruntlement of U.S. Secretary of State, James Baker, who is famous for declaring: "You can do business with the United States or you can do business with Frank Zappa." Still, Vaclav Havel's friendship with Frank Zappa grew, and Zappa shared his ideas about increasing tourism to Czechoslovakia, and explained the concept of credit cards which were then an unknown quantity in this part of the world. It was Frank Zappa's brief interlude in the world of international trade and diplomatic relations—and the vantage-point was Prague.







Zappa eviscerated Baker’s wife Susan, along with Tipper Gore, during the national debate on rating rock records back in 1985:

http://www.theroc.org/roc-mag/textarch/roc-08/roc0816b.htm

It has been a pet semi-theory of mine that James Baker did some black op’s to Zappa’s health and Doctors that led to his premature death. Frank went to five Doctors and it was the SIXTH that found the prostate cancer, too late by that time to cure.

RIP Vaclev!


-90% Jimmy

Robb

(39,665 posts)
2. RIP. A good man.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 10:59 AM
Dec 2011

But let's not sugar coat things. There was a hell of a lot of violence leading up to the Velvet Revolution.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
6. I support the use of violence to overthrow Soviet-style communism.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 02:03 PM
Dec 2011

Totalitarianism is never a good thing. Pacifism has its limits.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
8. Oh, I'm down with it. Just a pet peeve of mine.
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 02:39 PM
Dec 2011

Anyone who says the Velvet Revolution was "nonviolent" wasn't in Prague in July and August. People died.

Botany

(77,276 posts)
3. A truly great man
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:14 AM
Dec 2011


I visited Prague shortly after the velvet revolution and the Havel signs were everywhere.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
4. RIP, Vaclav!
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:43 AM
Dec 2011

What is with the Czechs and the love of the absurd? This is the same country that produced Kafka.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
10. His writings on humanity and freedom up to and a little into his time in office
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 04:58 PM
Dec 2011

are amazing. Being in office may have worn him down a little, at times.

I consider him a true humanitarian, a true patriot to the spirit of humanity and to freedom in general. Held in highest esteem.

If you have not read any of his essays, please press the google button on your computer as hard as you can.

RIP!

 

DeathToTheOil

(1,124 posts)
12. Too soon indeed
Sun Dec 18, 2011, 06:07 PM
Dec 2011

Unlike Chickenhawk Hitchens, whose online hagiographies are wholly unwarranted.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Vaclav Havel, Dissident P...