Anybody Else Here Sick To Your Stomach Depressed About The Syria Situation ???

[WillyT]

Man... I haven't felt this way in a long time.

[Jasana]

1. Yes of course.

Our choices are between Assad (a war criminal) and Al-Qaeda (terrorists) with innocent civilians stuck between them. You know a limited strike isn't going to do anything much except maybe kill some more civilians. The UN, the entire world, wants us to back the hell off and all Washington can think about is political posturing.

The debate in Congress is going to be interesting (in a bad way.) I haven't felt this sick since Iraq. I sympathize with you no matter what your political position is on Syria.

[mnhtnbb]

2. Agreed.

[sibelian]

3. Not yet. nt

[tokenlib]

4. Yes, the Syrian rebels are largely no better than Assad..

..the probability of bad unintended consequences is the stench that permeates this scene.
And the military contractors salivating with delight are very disturbing. The bomb makers stocks went up in value... When does it stop....

[Hell Hath No Fury]

39. Of two shitty choices Assad would be the better.

He oversaw a modern, secular Arab country where women were treated fairly equally and the religious crazies were kept under control. I think that is the best we can hope for now.

[Erose999]

43. Assad's replacement would probably be just as bad. Probably some warlord from among the rebels.

Thats the problem with US nation-building. We always put soldiers in power and then we're "surprised" when they go to war with each other.

[Enthusiast]

50. However he might be "our" warlord.

Our national security mechanism has penetrated every group. No question.

[Ohio Joe]

5. I see no good choices...

I don't even see a 'lesser of two evils' choice... The whole thing is very disturbing to me.

[kardonb]

24. lesser evil

it is a CIVIL war among factions , nothing new in the Middle East . THEY made their own problems , let them solve them themselves . We CANNOT and should not try to protect everyone the world from their own follies .

[rhett o rick]

6. Yes

[morningfog]

7. I haven't felt this way since early 2003.

[HardTimes99]

30. You're probably looking at the past through partially rose-colored glasses. The unmistakable

build-up to Operation Shocking and Awful began in the weeks before the 2002 mid-terms. I remember being really pissed off at Gebhardt and Daschle for their October 2002 concordat with Bushler to "take Iraq off the table."

[madinmaryland]

8. Yes, but since there are so many civil wars going on, it is almost numbing

how much strife there is in the world.

[etherealtruth]

9. I don't see a solution that doesn't include the slaughter of innocents

It sickens me

[Jackpine Radical]

10. No, but only because I put a lot of effort into

Not letting things get to me when they are beyond my control.

[RobertEarl]

11. No

But it is getting on my nerves.

However, Obama pulling back and not launching is a good thing. We coulda been at war already, and we're not.

I just wonder how many good Syrians are sitting there today thinking: why hasn't the US bombed us yet?

[awoke_in_2003]

42. Agreed...

hopefully people will think a bit now.

[gopiscrap]

12. Yes

[pscot]

13. I got that out of my system

the 1st time we invaded Iraq. Now it just pisses me off.

[suffragette]

14. Yes and I keep thinking to when we rendered people

To Syria to be tortured .

We ping pong from partnering in inhumane acts with Syria to threatening military action against them for independent atrocities.

[JDPriestly]

15. We need someone with real common sense in the White House.

Someone who speaks with moral courage and does not hide from difficult confrontations in fighting for the people of United States.

My signature line tells you who I think that is.

[rug]

16. I'm disgusted but not because I'm depressed.

[indepat]

17. Yes, I'm sick to my stomach to realize the Bush-Cheney-PNAC pre-emptive wars of choice

doctrine seems to be playing out as if were written U.S. policy fully embraced by the administration. For God's sake, we have the UN to resolve international matters or intervene militarily wherein appropriate. Being a very sore bully when not getting our righteous way is tantamount to a little child throwing a temper tantrum. The number who shrilly advocate such policy is horrifying.

[School Teacher]

18. Get Moving, Folks!

It is time for us to act. So far I have attended a demonstration, alerted people in my church to call congress and the president. I have written my two senators and my rep and called their offices. I was shocked to call their offices in DC and not find their mailboxes full.
Get busy! We need to flood the internet, the phones and be outdoors in the face of the empire.
We may not win, but I am not gonna sit home and feel bad. We all get depressed, who wouldn't living in this moral nightmare of a country is hard, but the only honorable things to do is act and act a lot.

[WHEN CRABS ROAR]

25. I agree with you, time to make a loud noise.

Here's how you do it.
Make a large sign that states,
HONK
NO WAR
IN SYRIA
and stand at a busy corner in your town or city, if this was done right now all over the country, the message would be heard loud and clear.
It would be reported because the sound would be deafening.

BTW this actually works.

[AsahinaKimi]

19. bleh...

And for the US, it hasn't really started yes. How many years have we been here at this kind of point in time? Don't average Americans get sick of seeing real war crap on the Television? Reading the numbers in the paper, of dead and wounded. Hearing about a neighbors son or daughter killed over seas. Tending to freshly new Veterans who have been released from duty.


And the Corporations who make huge profits on this.. only to shoving their money over seas in a bank some where out of sight, out of mind.

[classof56]

35. Yep, as an average American, I'm sick of war and the prospect of war.

A relative of mine lost a grandson who had just returned from his second tour in Iraq and blew his brains out. I live in fear that my own grandsons will be sent to fight some pointless war in the sands of the Middle East. Or anywhere, for that matter. I marched in protest prior to the Iraq invasion. I now fully understand who's benefiting from these "conflicts" and it does indeed make me sick, as does the fact that we are treating the returning vets so badly.

Peace and blessings to all of us who care.

[AsahinaKimi]

36. well stated

thank you!

[mike_c]

20. me....

I absolutely despise American exceptionalism.

[Cerridwen]

21. Nope.

I didn't have the luxury or privilege of growing up in a blinkered class.

The ideals to which I was taught my country aspired, were frequently jettisoned on the altar of pragmatism as "it's just business; nothing personal."

I'm not surprised nor recently aware.

The US is the most militarized bully on the block; and "we" like it that way.

There's some "pragmatism" for you.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

22. Not since it's become obvious the Saudis want the US to make Syria their puppet.

[freedom fighter jh]

23. Yes. nt

[blkmusclmachine]

26. No "War For Profit."

Follow the $$$.

[Warpy]

27. No, I'm too angry for that

I'm angry at the situation over there and I'm angry at all the intransigent fanatics and I'm angry that the MIC sees it as a way to make a fast buck.

Mostly, I'm angry at war hawks, period. We can no longer afford to give them their way in anything. We need to tell them NO for a change.

[HardTimes99]

28. For the first time in my life, I shall be protesting in public against the policies of

a Democratic President and administration.

Sigh.

Protested publicly against every Republican administration since Reagan's.

[craigmatic]

29. If there are no good choices and we can't get an international coalition we should stay out.

Also this just seems like a bad idea for us to get involved.

[pangaia]

31. No.

Getting emotionally involved 24/7 is not good formy health.
It's near the end of minor league baseball season. The Muckdogs were eliminated from the playoffs today. But they tried hard, play good baseball, and have 3 more games. I will go. And there is always next year.

[PotatoChip]

32. Yes. It's all so depressing.

And there are clearly no easy answers.

I'm heartsick for the people over there, but hope that some sort of solution can be found without any sort of military intervention. Easier said than done obviously, but hopefully something can be done with the help of the international community...

[NaturalHigh]

33. Yes, I am.

The last thing we need is another war. We've been at war in one place or another almost as long as my son has been alive.

[avaistheone1]

45. That's really sad.

It's true these eternal Mid-East wars has dragged on forever. It's surprising how much time has past that we have been continually at war.

When I was young during the Vietnam War, I couldn't understand how my parents generation couldn't stop the war and fix the system. Now I have a bitter understanding of how deeply ingrained war is into this country's structure and that it is bigger than our democracy.

[99Forever]

34. I used to think America's loss of humanity...

... was mainly a Republican thing. I was so very wrong, warmongering is an equal political opportunity sport, I guess.

Which does indeed, make my guts churn.

What the Hell happened to us? How did we sink to this level?

[Enthusiast]

49. Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.

Many of us feel duped.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

37. I am having a bit of flashbacks -

and it is making me utter sick. To be here again. Hearing the same bullshit "national security" arguments from O and Kerry that we heard from BushCo. To see folks here swallow it, GULP it down eagerly. Listening to Secretary Kerry made me want to put my foot through my TV -- that is something only GWB ever made me want to do. I feel further alienated from the Democratic Party than ever.

For the first time I feel the futility of the fight. The sisyphisean task that is being anti-war in the leading war-making country.

I am sick to fucking death of this madness. No one who votes in favor of this strike will EVER get my vote again.

[Safetykitten]

38. Nothing you can do. Like Larry getting the Fed post, like the ACA screwing people, like the

economy in the toilet...nothing much you can do. They are going to do the war gig. It's just a matter of when,

[Crimson76]

40. I have been obsessed with it for months, because I knew what it was, and what it could become

We need to convince Congress to vote no, call your congressman, even if they are pro- invasion.

[Blue_In_AK]

41. Both sides suck.

[Douglas Carpenter]

44. yes because there is no viable answer - the consequences of Assad staying in power are terrible but

the consequences of the Assad regime collapsing are even worse.,

Our national instinct is to come riding to the rescue. It goes against our character to simply sit on our hands. Our sincere, naive and self-centered belief that America can fix everything, and our equally sincere, naive and self-centered belief that moral outrage justifies intervention, is a powerful tide, pulling us toward getting directly involved in Syria’s civil war.

But in the real world, we cannot always come riding to the rescue. Sometimes, we have no choice but to watch tragedy unfold, because anything we do will create an even bigger tragedy.

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/13/dont_arm_syrias_rebels/singleton/

[LuvNewcastle]

46. Yes, I've had it.

It looks like my brother will be deployed next year, and he could be in the thick of this mess if it turns into an expanded war. The thought of him dying or being maimed over this stupidity is almost too much to bear. We were supposed to be leaving Afghanistan next year, and now we're getting right in the middle of something else. Some people won't be satisfied until we have another world war.

[Carolina]

47. Absolutely

sick and disgusted

Disgusted at the warmongers and apologists here on DU, but most especially at the POTUS and many Dems like plastic Pelosi and Reid.

Sorry but I will sit out 2014... since it really doesn't matter any more; and maybe this country does need to hit rock bottom in order for REAL change (not some jingoistic slogan) to occur

[Enthusiast]

48. No military action is clearly the best choice.

It will serve no good purpose.