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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere's always money for war
but never money for the needs of the people. The MIC must be fed.
Notice how the cost for this isn't even being debated? It doesn't matter if this costs $10 million, $100 million, $1 billion or $100 billion, the money will be found. But the money for our dilapidated infrastructure is nowhere to be found. The money for head start is nowhere to be found. Our priorities are fucked up. I guess we need to blow shit up to make it a priority.
Yesterday, there was a thread with this link in it. The GOP wants a wider war to take out Assad. They want the MIC to gorge on the budget with a new war and starve the programs for the people like Social Security, Medicare, food stamps, etc.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Doesn't change with any administration either.
raccoon
(31,119 posts)RC
(25,592 posts)We can afford to spend hundreds of billions intervening in foreign conflicts, with no talk of the monetary cost?
neverforget
(9,436 posts)at home and abroad.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)... just what is it the defense budget is defending?
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)And if it involves fetuses, oil, or lining the pockets of billionaires ... it's about morality
tecelote
(5,122 posts)We can not afford it.
Every Republican has yelled and yelled about how we're broke.
We can't afford it.
Period.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)That increases the likelihood that U.S. lawmakers will agree to a short-term government funding measure to get them through the fall, postponing for another day any broader deal or big showdowns.
The House of Representatives had previously scheduled only nine legislative days in September after they return from summer recess on Sept. 9, prompting analysts to view this as barely enough to pass government funding legislation in time to avoid a federal shutdown as the new fiscal year starts Oct. 1.
But now much of that time is likely to be eaten up with a contentious debate over authorizing the use of military force to punish Syria, analysts say.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)that a strike on Syria also might kill thousands of unborn babies.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)what ails us: money in politics.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Billy Love
(117 posts)ASAP.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)I for one am sick of it.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)But will any of them ask the question?
Of course not.
spanone
(135,873 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)What it will be who knows
Phlem
(6,323 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... the money, and whose pockets it lines, is all this is about.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)that I could cry thinking about it.
K&R
avebury
(10,952 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)over and over again.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Supersedeas
(20,630 posts)soryang
(3,299 posts)...the war contractors are looking at the top line shrinking radically, so another war is just what is needed. The huge opportunity costs of war and military adventurism are great for destroying the social fabric at home and lining the pockets of the rich.
mick063
(2,424 posts)Message of the year.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)they should be willing to raise taxes to pay for it. They should reinstate a draft, so that there would be enough military, as to not need expensive "consultants." The taxes should be on businesses as well as individuals.
The precedent of not raising taxes to pay for war, should be a big issue with RepubliCONs, however it is not. They will wage war for anything, without raising taxes. Bush even CUT taxes, when he waged war on Iraq.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Given that people of ordinary means largely FIGHT the wars, it seems only reasonable that those best able to bear the cost of these "discretionary" wars pay for all of them.
It's been estimated every American family owes $40-50,000 for our adventures in Iraq.
I wonder how many would be spoiling for another optional intervention in the ME if every millionaire in the country had to pay for an equal share of the whole thing?
Take away the premise we can take it all back from social programs and infrastructure.
See who still finds these wars to be morally imperative.
durablend
(7,464 posts)The perfect opportunity to cut funding for a whole load of domestic stuff the "libruls" like.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)hard for them to pass up. It's who they are.
CrispyQ
(36,509 posts)It's shameful, but what really gets me is how many Americans fall for this 'we've got to have a big bad military' bullshit. My mother was one. She was on government assistance & voted republican.
mick063
(2,424 posts)The priority to funnel money into the arms manufacturers has never been more apparent.
Fiscal conservatives are not conservative when it comes to military adventure. Endless war is breaking this nation and the people that benefit the most, are expecting the middle class to pay for it all.
pjt7
(1,293 posts)of USA Goverment war contracts, for the last 10 years of war.
Think they want to stop that?
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)while the costs are born by the 99% could it?
neverforget
(9,436 posts)masters to Congress.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)If the wealthiest corporations and individuals had to pay a specific, non-dodgeable tax for each of these extra-legal, pre-emptively self-defensive, message-sending "regime change" adventures, it would be over tomorrow.
Suddenly there would be no moral obscenity. There would be no red lines. There would be only the deafening silence of erstwhile war hawks losing their enthusiasm for anything for which they, rather than everyone else, bore the risks, costs, and tradeoffs.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)As I said, the money will always be found for war.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)a moral document. It is where you delineate you priorities.
So yeah, you could say by that that we are pretty much a fucked up country whose priorities generally suck.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Initech
(100,102 posts)Oil and gas contractors, military contractors, and other evil forces are the ones who stand to benefit. It's all about the money.
I have said it before and I will say it again with double, triple emphasis:
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PEOPLE OF SYRIA!!!!!!!!!!!
It is all about the military industrial complex wanting more war for profit. They could not give less of a fuck what happens to the people of Syria.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)Instead, we looked the other way until the means of killing changed.
pjt7
(1,293 posts)if we launch missles.
That's common sense.
Look @ Iraq & Libya which the killing have not stopped, although the media told us our bombs are for peace & Freedom.
800 killed in Iraq in August.
& Syria is not really a Civil War considering the House of Saud & Qatar are spending $Billions to send Foregn Jihadist in from Chechnya, Tunusia, Saud Arabia etc etc
mick063
(2,424 posts)The OP title is simple, yet it explains everything.
doc03
(35,364 posts)neverforget
(9,436 posts)Maybe I missed it.....
mick063
(2,424 posts)Back to Page 1.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)So many go hungry and homeless in this country, yet war gets a higher priority...sad legacy.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)It is the title. It rings a bell.
mick063
(2,424 posts)But a whole shit load of money for bullets.
neverforget
(9,436 posts)mick063
(2,424 posts)Simple, concise, and a point that must be hammered home.
mick063
(2,424 posts)Back to page 1.
mick063
(2,424 posts)n/t