French intelligence says at least 281 civilians killed, less than Kerry's 1429

[dkf]

@bbcdavideades: French intelligence says at least 281 civilians killed in #Syria chemical attack. Less than figure given by MSF - far cry from Kerry's 1,429

PDF of French report, for anyone that can read French.

http://www.gouvernement.fr/sites/default/files/fichiers_joints/syrie_synthese_nationale_de_renseignement_declassifie_02_09_2013.pdf

[MindMover]

1. That is the latest attack ... not 8-21-13

There have been over a dozen chemical attacks by this butcher with thousands dead ....

[KittyWampus]

2. From document- Doctors W/O Borders- 335 Deaths. Same paragraph says 1500 deaths.

According to different sources 1500 deaths.

The work done by our experts is consistent to the model numbers of the impact a chemical attack would have on a city population.

Some please correct my attempt at a French translation!

[pnwmom]

3. I could read enough French to find the section that talked about the Aug. 21 attack.

And the google translation, at least, makes the situation much more murky than that tweet implies. Perhaps the difference between the 281 deaths observed in the videos and the 1500 they report in the "balance sheet" has to do with further deaths that occurred in the hospitals, rather than at the site of the attack.

"Based on a systematic technical analysis of 47 original videos of the events of August 21, a first liquidation account, district by district, the number of victims has been realized. In view of the single sample videos have been identified at least 281 deaths, localized in the East Ghouta (districts Ain Tarma, Douma, Erbin of Jobar, Kfar Batna of Qas Alaa, of Zamalka) and West (neighborhood Mudamiyat Sham).

"Our own data confirm that in the hospital Duma, half of the victims are women and children and in 50% of cases, death is immediate. Physicians CONCLUDE a high concentration of toxic has been employed.

"Other independent assessments, for example MADE BY Doctor Without Borders, are state of at least 355 dead. Several techniques STATEMENTS according different sources, assess the balance sheet has about 1500 dead. The work realized by our experts, consisting of a modelize the impact of a chemical attack on the people of the cited sites are Coherent with this number.

Besides the fact that the victims do not carry personal injury and rattle symptoms are primarily generalized seizures, nausea, vomiting, miosis, hypersecretion of saliva, dyspnea, choking, unconsciousness, Coherent clinical signs with poisoning chemicals. Of confirmed cases of cross-contamination of health care workers have been reports To several sources."

[KittyWampus]

4. Hey, I was close! And I don't speak French but the document reads very close to English.

[pnwmom]

5. Yes, you were very close! I don't know that it reads close to English, though.

It was vaguely familiar to me because of high school French.

[David Krout]

6. AP: Doctors without borders "has not been able to update its initial Aug. 24 estimate of 355 killed"

This is consistent with what the OP is saying.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/wide-range-death-tolls-alleged-syria-gassing-20126838

Recommended.

[KittyWampus]

7. Actually, the OP is patently false. But carry on. I'll recommend it too.

perfectly illustrates the agendas some have.

[Bluenorthwest]

9. Kerry quoted that very specific number as being from that one attack.

Why so specific without any support for the number?

[maddezmom]

8. I believe that figure is from chemical attacks in April

Around 47 amateur video clips reportedly filmed on the morning of the attack and showing the impact on civilians had been authenticated by French military doctors, according to the intelligence.

Other French evidence gave details of other suspected chemical attacks, in the towns of Saraqib and Jobar in April, which now appeared to have killed about 280 people, the source said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/02/us-syria-crisis-france-chemical-idUSBRE9810GQ20130902