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After weathering a barrage of criticism from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Kerry turned the tables and demanded to know whether or not he believed that air strikes would make Assad more or less likely to use chemical weapons again.
Its unknown, Paul replied.
Jabbing his finger, Kerry disagreed, saying it was guaranteed that Assad would use chemical weapons again if the U.S. doesnt act.
Kerry, a Vietnam veteran, reminded Paul that youve got three of us here who have gone to war and that they know what it involves. The president is not asking you to go to war, he said, urging Paul to go to a classified briefing and learn that.
Concluding his comments, Kerry turned to Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, for back-up, asking if he wanted to weigh in on this.
No, not really, came the reply, prompting laughter from the panel.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics-live/the-senates-syria-hearing-live-updates/?id=495d87f0-607f-4d8e-9b57-f7f3933892a1
Jump forward to the 7:30 minute mark on the video below
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baldguy
(36,649 posts)that would be fucking obvious to anyone who knew anything at all about Sec. Kerry.
People who support Assad - like Rand Paul - have the blood on thousands of Syrians on their hands.
former9thward
(32,088 posts)Will the rebels use them again?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/05/us-syria-crisis-un-idUSBRE94409Z20130505
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)that's disturbing. I wonder then if Kerry/USA ignored it because they were trying to setup Assad for a fall. Awfully curious about how Great Britain exported key ingredients for the chemical weapons into Syria as well. It seems the US (and GB) may have been working together to create an incident in Syria.
former9thward
(32,088 posts)I don't care if it is coming from the U.S,. Russia, the UK, France, Assad or the rebels. I hope we do not get drawn into this.
karynnj
(59,506 posts)avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)link please.
karynnj
(59,506 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)LibAsHell
(180 posts)Hurts me to defend Rand fucking Paul but when he said "it's unknown" he was absolutely right.
What else is unknown is what the strikes will accomplish, whether they will help opposition fighters gain any advantage over the Syrian army, or what will happen if they manage to overthrow Assad.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)to attacking fringe, extremist libertarians because they cannot bring their corrupted corporate selves to own the issues they *should* own.
There's an easy answer to Democratic angst about the Pauls. Democrats could become the party *against* spying, *against* warmongering, and in favor of *increasing,* rather than cutting, safety nets.
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Stand with Paul "drone a potential liquor store robber" Rand.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Many DUers have already thrown Secy Kerry under the bus. Calling him a liar, etc.
I say that as a person who is against any action by the US in Syria.
But I will not throw the Obama administration under the bus just because I disagree with what they are doing, or are intending to do. To do that under our current political structure lies madness and future Republican regimes who would do far, far worse.
I can disagree, even passionately, without setting my hair on fire about it. I have had things to complain about every Democratic majority for over four decades.
But by all means DUers should proceed. It's all so simple. Either they're for us 100% , or against us 100%.
Reality is more nuanced. Governing in the 21st century is difficult. I disagree with my party on this. But I unapologetically support my party even while disagreeing on certain individual policy issues.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)daa
(2,621 posts)Red Mountain
(1,737 posts)All the 'we can't know this and we can't know that'.
There are things we do know Senator. And at some point you have to make a decision.
Pick a side.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)All the propaganda and the lies were criminal. More than 100,000 lives lost due to those fabrications.
There is no need to lose more lives in Syria over half-baked information. Not having adequate data should be a RED FLAG to not initiate military action against another country. That is the prudent course of action.