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ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:22 PM Sep 2013

Caught – US Planned Syrian Catastrophe Since 2007

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A Timeline: How the Syrian Conflict Really Unfolded

Western media networks have ensured that a singular narrative of “pro-democracy” uprisings turning violent in the face of brutal oppression by the Syrian government after the so-called “Arab Spring” is disseminated across the public. In reality, “pro-democracy” protesters served as a tenuous smokescreen behind which armed foreign-backed extremists took to the streets and countrysides of Syria to execute a sectarian bloodbath years in the making. Here is a timeline that illuminates the true cause of Syria’s current conflict and the foreign interests, not the Syrian government, responsible for the tens of thousands dead and millions displaced during the conflict.

1991: Paul Wolfowitz, then Undersecretary of Defense, tells US Army General Wesley Clark that the US has 5-10 years to “clean up those old Soviet client regimes, Syria, Iran, Iraq, before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.” Fora.TV: Wesley Clark at the Commonwealth Club of California, October 3, 2007.

2001: A classified plot is revealed to US Army General Wesley Clark that the US plans to attack and destroy the governments of 7 nations: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya Somalia, Sudan, and Iran. Fora.TV: Wesley Clark at the Commonwealth Club of California, October 3, 2007.

2002: US Under Secretary of State John Bolton declares Syria a member of the “Axis of Evil” and warned that “the US would take action.” BBC: “US Expands ‘Axis of Evil’” May 6, 2002.

2005: US State Department’s National Endowment for Democracy organizes and implements the “Cedar Revolution” in Lebanon directly aimed at undermining Syrian-Iranian influence in Lebanon in favor of Western-backed proxies, most notably Saad Hariri’s political faction. Counterpunch: “Faking the Case Against Syria,” by Trish Schuh November 19-20, 2005.

2005: Ziad Abdel Nour, an associate of Bush Administration advisers, policy makers, and media including Neo-Conservatives Paula Dobriansky, James Woolsey, Frank Gaffney, Daniel Pipes, Joseph Farah (World Net Daily), Clifford May, and Daniel Nassif of US State Department-funded Al Hurra and Radio Sawa, admits: “Both the Syrian and Lebanese regimes will be changed- whether they like it or not- whether it’s going to be a military coup or something else… and we are working on it. We know already exactly who’s going to be the replacements. We’re working on it with the Bush administration.” Counterpunch: “Faking the Case Against Syria,” by Trish Schuh November 19-20, 2005.

2006: Israel attempts, and fails, to destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon after a prolonged aerial bombard that resulted in thousands of civilian deaths. CNN: “UN: Hezbollah and Israel agree on Monday cease-fire,” August 13, 2006.

2007: Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker reveals that US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and Hariri in Lebanon as well as the Syrian arm of the Muslim Brotherhood were assembling, arming, training, and heavily funding a sectarian extremists front, many of whom had direct ties to Al Qaeda, to unleash in both Lebanon and Syria. The goal was to create and exploit a sectarian divide between Sunni and Shi’ia Muslims. Hersh interviewed intelligence officers who expressed concerns over the “cataclysmic conflict” that would result, and the need to protect ethnic minorities from sectarian atrocities. The report indicated that extremists would be logistically staged in northern Lebanon where they would be able to cross back and forth into Syria. New Yorker: “The Redirection,” by Seymour Hersh, March 5, 2007.

2008: The US State Department begins training, funding, networking, and equipping “activists” through its “Alliance for Youth Movements” where the future protest leaders of the “Arab Spring,” including Egypt’s “April 6 Movement” were brought to New York, London, and Mexico, before being trained by US-funded CANVAS in Serbia, and then returning home to begin preparations for 2011. Land Destroyer: “2011 – Year of the Dupe,” December 24, 2011.

Read more:
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/09/us-planned-syrian-civilian-catastrophe.html

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Caught – US Planned Syrian Catastrophe Since 2007 (Original Post) ocpagu Sep 2013 OP
STUPID---Bullshit conspiracy theory blog shops a load of horseshit; is republished in GD. MADem Sep 2013 #1
There are quotes, documents, and sources listed. ocpagu Sep 2013 #2
I didn't read the tags. I read this (warning: offensive) Cerridwen Sep 2013 #8
Post removed Post removed Sep 2013 #10
It is on-topic. It's the website you're peddling. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #17
No, not my problem. ocpagu Sep 2013 #21
"I don't care if you find the website credible or not." Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #25
Because it's irrelevant. I'm interested in the content, not the site that republished it. ocpagu Sep 2013 #27
Same argument as before: Disparate events do not prove a conspiracy. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #35
YOU ARE COTO IF YOU ANSWER YES TO THREE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING TENETS: KamaAina Sep 2013 #14
A veritable smorgasbord of WOO! with a dessert cart of WHA--! n/t Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #3
One of my favorite quotes sharp_stick Sep 2013 #5
I need to get royalties or something... Blue_Tires Sep 2013 #19
Mine, too. MADem Sep 2013 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Sep 2013 #6
Right. For 22 years, the U.S. has been secretly controlling the Arab world. randome Sep 2013 #4
Are those quotes fabricated? ocpagu Sep 2013 #7
How does Israel's 2006 war against Hezbollah prove the premise? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #11
Why is the US sending agents to train the "Syrian" rebels and arming them? n/t ocpagu Sep 2013 #18
Because that is what the President (foolishly) directed. Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #22
You have been told by more than one person that the garbage you are posting MADem Sep 2013 #13
When you have some argument regarding the content of the article, we'll talk. ocpagu Sep 2013 #24
The content of your SOURCE is offensive, bigoted hate speech. If you approve of this source, you MADem Sep 2013 #26
Oh, yes. My source is offensive. Cheering for a war isn't... ocpagu Sep 2013 #28
Your new site hosts Sandy Hook truthers... Turborama Sep 2013 #29
Hahahahahahah ocpagu Sep 2013 #31
The content is garbage--like the sources you are flinging up here. MADem Sep 2013 #34
You switched from one loonbag source to another--and we're supposed to be IMPRESSED? MADem Sep 2013 #33
Of course the U.S. has been meddling. So has Russia. So has Israel. So have other ME countries. randome Sep 2013 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Aerows Sep 2013 #9
BUT HE HAS SNIPPETS! *pounds table* Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2013 #12
Snippets, eh? You haven't seen these quotes and articles all over the net for years? polly7 Sep 2013 #30
Snippets. randome Sep 2013 #32
+1 please read delrem Sep 2013 #15
I like you. You have spunk. cliffordu Sep 2013 #23

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. STUPID---Bullshit conspiracy theory blog shops a load of horseshit; is republished in GD.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:26 PM
Sep 2013
Posted in Miscellaneous | Tags: 911 & False Flag Operations, banksters, Conspiracy, Constitution, Depopulation & Sustainability, Eugenics, false flag ops, fascism, Global Governance, Government, nwo, obama, Perception Management, Politics, Propaganda, Resistance & Vindication, Rothschild, The Committee, tyranny, War, Zionism



No obvious, hate-fostering, anti-Jewish, nutbag agendas there....

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
2. There are quotes, documents, and sources listed.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:28 PM
Sep 2013

Your best answer is "that's a conspiracy because of the tags"?

Really?

Cerridwen

(13,262 posts)
8. I didn't read the tags. I read this (warning: offensive)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:35 PM
Sep 2013
On another less politically correct note.

Once upon a time there were three bears,papa bear, papa bear and baby bear. They all lived happily in the old abandoned fudge packing plant just south of Frisco. One drisly dampening day Golda-my-ear was strutting along amongst the florist and interior decorator shops and she wandered into the old abandoned fudge packing plant. She was attired from subverting and provocateering so she thinks she might cop some Z´s on one of the three water beds she found. “Oh no,this one has brown bear stains on it,it just aint kosher” ” and this steamy pile of stuff here, it aint porridge and definitely aint kosher” So Miss My-Ear decides she will leave all the bears the hell alone and let them all just pack fudge in the factory and they will never notice how she and her Yehus are bilking all the bears and having them fight her wars and all the while she is depleting their precious bodily fluids by leaving them to wallow in shizig the likes of which no one had ever sunk up to.

The moral of the story, Never deplete your bodily fluids packing fudge. Dont excrete for a jewess that bears a grudge. THE END


That shit is published at that site.

Get it the fuck off DU.

Response to Cerridwen (Reply #8)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
17. It is on-topic. It's the website you're peddling.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:43 PM
Sep 2013

If that impugns the website's credibility that's your problem.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
21. No, not my problem.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:46 PM
Sep 2013

I don't care if you find the website credible or not. They just republished the story.

This is just "attacking the messenger" to avoid addressing the argument technique.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
25. "I don't care if you find the website credible or not."
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:49 PM
Sep 2013

Then why use it as a source?

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
27. Because it's irrelevant. I'm interested in the content, not the site that republished it.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:53 PM
Sep 2013

But, anyway, I've changed it. What's the argument now?

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
35. Same argument as before: Disparate events do not prove a conspiracy.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:19 PM
Sep 2013
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. YOU ARE COTO IF YOU ANSWER YES TO THREE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING TENETS:
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013
12. You listen to Alex Jones.


FAIL.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
3. A veritable smorgasbord of WOO! with a dessert cart of WHA--! n/t
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:29 PM
Sep 2013

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
5. One of my favorite quotes
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:33 PM
Sep 2013
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
19. I need to get royalties or something...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Mine, too.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

And I always thought that Lincoln looked great in those glasses!

Response to MADem (Reply #1)

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. Right. For 22 years, the U.S. has been secretly controlling the Arab world.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:32 PM
Sep 2013

I don't think so. And the Arab Spring is part of this nefarious plot? I don't think so.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
7. Are those quotes fabricated?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:34 PM
Sep 2013

Are the facts being exposed lies?

Is it all a coincidence?

The US has been meddling in the Arab World for a long time. Not controlling, exactly, but definitely trying to control.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
11. How does Israel's 2006 war against Hezbollah prove the premise?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:41 PM
Sep 2013

The two parties have been at odds since -- ever. That in no way proves the Arab Spring was meant to gin-up a civil war in Syria. It's just lobbing a bunch of poo at a wall and hoping to paint a picture ending up with nothing more than a Rorschach test.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
18. Why is the US sending agents to train the "Syrian" rebels and arming them? n/t
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:44 PM
Sep 2013

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
22. Because that is what the President (foolishly) directed.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:47 PM
Sep 2013

But that doesn't prove a conspiracy. It only proves the President gave a foolish directive.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. You have been told by more than one person that the garbage you are posting
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

using this piece of shit source is inappropriate.

Yet you double down and snark at people who flat-out are showing you that you've stepped over a line.

Why do you do such a thing, I wonder?

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
24. When you have some argument regarding the content of the article, we'll talk.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013

If you intend to divert the thread by attacking the source, I won't bother to play your game.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. The content of your SOURCE is offensive, bigoted hate speech. If you approve of this source, you
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:52 PM
Sep 2013

are on the wrong goddamned board.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
28. Oh, yes. My source is offensive. Cheering for a war isn't...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:55 PM
Sep 2013

And I am on the wrong goddamned board... BTW, the "source" has been changed. What's your lousy justification to avoid addressing the content now?

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
29. Your new site hosts Sandy Hook truthers...
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:59 PM
Sep 2013
 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
31. Hahahahahahah
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:03 PM
Sep 2013

Thank you. I saw it coming.

It's not about the source. It's the content that is bothering you guys... just admit it.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. The content is garbage--like the sources you are flinging up here.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:12 PM
Sep 2013

You've certainly shown us your true colors, though, if those are the kinds of sources you favor.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. You switched from one loonbag source to another--and we're supposed to be IMPRESSED?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:10 PM
Sep 2013

Please. Their "store" sells "We're All Gonna DIE!!!!!!!!" survivalist shit...and nothing else. http://www.activistpost.com/p/activist-store.html

Their "forum" is full of 911 truthers. The responses to the posted articles are full of intolerant comments.

They think the UN, that can't get a damn resolution passed, is about to take over the world: http://www.activistpost.com/p/writing-contest.html

Most people in a hole so deep they can't get out know enough to stop digging.

And no one is "cheering for war." If you didn't spend all your time on the flake fringes of the internet, you might realize that.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Of course the U.S. has been meddling. So has Russia. So has Israel. So have other ME countries.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:43 PM
Sep 2013

It's not right, I'll grant you. But left to their own devices, you know what would change? My guess is not a thing. The middle eastern sectarian hatred long predates America's involvement.

Still, it would be interesting to see if that was true, wouldn't it?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

Response to randome (Reply #4)

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
12. BUT HE HAS SNIPPETS! *pounds table*
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:42 PM
Sep 2013

polly7

(20,582 posts)
30. Snippets, eh? You haven't seen these quotes and articles all over the net for years?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:02 PM
Sep 2013

I'm surprised. I don't read too terribly much online compared to some here and I've seen every one of them at one time or another.

Although it's great having them all in one handy-dandy post.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
32. Snippets.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 04:03 PM
Sep 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]You should never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

delrem

(9,688 posts)
15. +1 please read
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:43 PM
Sep 2013

George Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
23. I like you. You have spunk.
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 03:48 PM
Sep 2013
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