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WillyT

(72,631 posts)
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:19 PM Sep 2013

Oh Man... I Think I'm Gonna Throw Up...

No War for Bernard Henri Lévy
France's Philosopher Bombardier

by DIANA JOHNSTONE - CounterPunch
SEPTEMBER 03, 2013

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The FPI told Obama that the United States should consider “direct military strikes against the pillars of the Assad regime”, not just to get rid of the chemical weapons threat, “but also to deter or destroy the Assad regime’s airpower and other conventional military means of committing atrocities against civilian non-combatants.”

At the same time, “the United States should accelerate efforts to vet, train, and arm moderate elements of Syria’s armed opposition, with the goal of empowering them to prevail against both the Assad regime and the growing presence of Al Qaeda-affiliated and other extremist rebel factions in the country.” The United States should “help shape and influence the foundations for the post-Assad Syria”.

In short, what is called for is a full-scale regime change, getting rid of both the existing regime and its main military opposition, and putting in power supposed “moderate elements of Syria’s armed opposition”, who by all accounts are the weakest in the field.

So, after failing to produce such nice, moderate results in Iraq or Afghanistan, try, try again.

The most familiar names among the 78 signatories included Elliott Abrams, Max Boot, Douglas J. Feith, Robert Kagan, Lawrence F. Kaplan, Joseph I. Lieberman, Martin Peretz, and Karl Rove. No surprises there.

The novelty on the list was the signature of Bernard-Henri Levy.

Not surprising either, when you stop to think about it. After all, Bernard-Henri Levy is widely credited with having persuaded former French president Nicolas Sarkozy to lead the charge that overthrew Kaddafi and delivered Libya to its current chaos. After such an accomplishment, the Parisian dandy naturally feels entitled to tell the United States President what to do.

I vividly recall Bernard-Henri Levy reacting with the mock indignation that serves as his usual shield from criticism to claims that the Benghazi rebels included Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda. Outrageous! he vociferated. He had been to Benghazi and seen for himself that the folks there were all liberal democrats who just wanted to enjoy free elections and multicultural harmony. Not so very much later, liberated Benghazi was sending Islamist fighters to destabilize Mali, recruiting Islamists to fight in Syria and assassinating a U.S. ambassador. This turn of events has not fazed the media star the French call “BHL” in the slightest. Although widely ridiculed and even hated in France, his influence persists.

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More: http://www.counterpunch.org/2013/09/03/no-war-for-bernard-henri-levy/

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Oh Man... I Think I'm Gonna Throw Up... (Original Post) WillyT Sep 2013 OP
Yeah,, after reading up on him I was a little surprised to see him on the list Scootaloo Sep 2013 #1
Don't hit your shoes. Or do. I don't care. nt babylonsister Sep 2013 #2
OH...Counterpunch...that figures... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #3
. Dragonfli Sep 2013 #8
omg... please tell me you are kidding. n/t cui bono Sep 2013 #10
I am just guessing...but that seems to be the trajectory we are on... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #14
It's no Fox News, I know. Marr Sep 2013 #13
yeah for real... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #15
Counterpunch! You Better Believe It! FSogol Sep 2013 #17
Lévy was right on Libya. He's wrong on Syria. pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #4
have you read Libya's current situation? HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #7
There's a lot of propaganda overhyping Libya's dire straits pinboy3niner Sep 2013 #9
Total "Anarchy" you say?...Just like "Somalia" you say...? VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #11
When rebel units are stealing oil to sell on black market HooptieWagon Sep 2013 #16
Can I steal that statement... VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #12
Wow gopiscrap Sep 2013 #5
ooh, BHL has an opinion! he's just farting from the other end, again MisterP Sep 2013 #6
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
1. Yeah,, after reading up on him I was a little surprised to see him on the list
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:21 PM
Sep 2013

I figured he and the two liberal-leaning female journalists were simply bemused spectators who got counted on the roll by mistake.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
14. I am just guessing...but that seems to be the trajectory we are on...
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:19 AM
Sep 2013

I figure it won't be long until it is demanded that we watch Alex Jones podcasts on DU. Or we are just too ignorant or stupid...or we didnt get the right education or we are a closeted Republican...or something...

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
7. have you read Libya's current situation?
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:36 PM
Sep 2013

Its deteriorated to near Somalia levels. Total anarchy, which causes instability throughout the region.

Its all fine and dandy to remove a dictator, but the ensuing battles over the power vacuum are no better.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
9. There's a lot of propaganda overhyping Libya's dire straits
Thu Sep 5, 2013, 11:49 PM
Sep 2013

Of course Libya has serious problems post-Ghadaffi. That was predicted, understood and acknowledged well before he fell.

There also have been a lot of positive developments in Libya after Ghadaffi.

But I don't want to hijack this thread to re-fight who was right or wrong on Libya. The ultimate result there won't be known for a long time, so it's premature for any of us to claim victory.

We can find common cause only in hoping for the best.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
11. Total "Anarchy" you say?...Just like "Somalia" you say...?
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:05 AM
Sep 2013

I think we have now seen the demonstration of what happens when "anarchy rules".

power and vacuum you say?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
16. When rebel units are stealing oil to sell on black market
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 10:02 AM
Sep 2013

...and the government cant do anything about it, thats pretty much anarchy.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
12. Can I steal that statement...
Fri Sep 6, 2013, 12:08 AM
Sep 2013

I want to add it as my sig line Hooptie!

It's totally great!

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