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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:30 PM Feb 2012

PA "Women's right to know Act" would place print out of ultrasound in patient's medical records

It would require the ultrasound screen to face the woman while the doctor narrates the images, although the law states that it should not be “construed to prevent a pregnant woman from averting her eyes,” the bill reads. Doctors who do not follow the prescribed routines could face felony charges and could be sued by the potential father and grandparents.

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The Pennsylvania legislature is considering a law with some of the country’s strongest provisions. It would require vaginal probes in many cases, display of the scanning screen to the patient and a printout of the image for inclusion in the patient’s medical records. It would also impose a 24-hour waiting period between ultrasound and abortion that critics say would be a burden for some women.

Labeled the Women’s Right to Know Act, the bill is opposed by the Pennsylvania Medical Society and other medical groups. But it has been approved by a Senate committee and its sponsors hope for passage this year.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/29/us/virginia-senate-passes-revised-ultrasound-bill.html?_r=1&pagewanted=2

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PA "Women's right to know Act" would place print out of ultrasound in patient's medical records (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Feb 2012 OP
Doomsday button has been pushed BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #1
But it's the RW that accuses Obama of telling doctors how to practice their profession. nanabugg Feb 2012 #23
Heinous. Absolutely Heinous. The title of the bill makes me want to vomit. n/t Avalux Feb 2012 #2
Unbelievable. We're going back to the dark ages. nt sufrommich Feb 2012 #3
Can anyone confirm if this statement by the bill's sponsor is true? PA Democrat Feb 2012 #4
NO way in hell. She's lying. Avalux Feb 2012 #5
That's what I thought. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #6
Looks like the bill's sponsor is a one woman anti-choice crusade. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #7
You know, we own property in Warren County and pay quite a bit of property taxes there. blue neen Feb 2012 #9
There is a petition, if you are interested in expressing your disapproval. Link inside: femmocrat Feb 2012 #8
What does our deranged Governor, Tom "The Nimrod" Corbett have to say about this? blue neen Feb 2012 #10
I don't think he is suicidal enough to sign it BumRushDaShow Feb 2012 #11
Everything else Corbett has signed has been pretty damn stupid. blue neen Feb 2012 #13
Yep, the stupid runs deep with Corbett. PA Democrat Feb 2012 #14
Unbelievable!!! Sparkly Feb 2012 #12
"We're not worthy!" We're not worthy!" blue neen Feb 2012 #18
I can't say what I would like to do to these regressive assholes Matariki Feb 2012 #15
Can someone please propose a Women's Right To Kick Some Republican Nutz Act Matariki Feb 2012 #16
Back to the kitchen with you - and take off your shoes! salin Feb 2012 #17
They need to attack this legislation piece by piece. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #19
It seems that this is in direct violation of the federal HIPAA act. blue neen Feb 2012 #20
A transvaginal sonogram law has already been passed in Texas derby378 Feb 2012 #21
Among other things, it's a repellent abuse of Medicine. DirkGently Feb 2012 #22

BumRushDaShow

(169,765 posts)
1. Doomsday button has been pushed
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:33 PM
Feb 2012

Pandora's box has been opened, and the teabagger demons have now been let loose.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
23. But it's the RW that accuses Obama of telling doctors how to practice their profession.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:30 AM
Feb 2012

What happened to the GOP screaming about government telling your doctor how to practice medicine?

PA Democrat

(13,428 posts)
4. Can anyone confirm if this statement by the bill's sponsor is true?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:38 PM
Feb 2012
Kathy L. Rapp, a Republican senator and the main sponsor, said that the concerns about requiring vaginal ultrasounds were exaggerated because most clinics perform the procedures before abortions anyway.


Sounds like a lie to me.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
5. NO way in hell. She's lying.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:39 PM
Feb 2012

It's not medically necessary to perform a transvaginal ultrasound prior to an abortion; no reason for it. And, it's expensive. What else do Pukes do though, besides lie?

PA Democrat

(13,428 posts)
7. Looks like the bill's sponsor is a one woman anti-choice crusade.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 09:57 PM
Feb 2012

Rapp Advances Women’s Right-to-Know Act to Offer Pennsylvania Mothers Complete Picture of Life

Rapp to Present Supporting Evidence for Historic Women’s Right-to-Know Act

Rapp Backs Bill to Protect Mother’s Right to Life from Abortion Clinic Horrors

http://www.reprapp.com/latestnews.aspx

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
9. You know, we own property in Warren County and pay quite a bit of property taxes there.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:04 PM
Feb 2012

Looks like I'll have to make a call to Rep. Rape's office. (Oops, did I just type Rape instead of Rapp...must have been a Freudian slip!).

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
10. What does our deranged Governor, Tom "The Nimrod" Corbett have to say about this?
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:10 PM
Feb 2012

Anything? Where is Tom Corbett these days?

BumRushDaShow

(169,765 posts)
11. I don't think he is suicidal enough to sign it
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:13 PM
Feb 2012

right away... He may do a McDonnell on it if it gets that far.

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
13. Everything else Corbett has signed has been pretty damn stupid.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:17 PM
Feb 2012

Everything is negative, punitive, corrupt, anti-education, and job killing.

...Not to mention that he aided and abetted a child molester.

Sparkly

(24,885 posts)
12. Unbelievable!!!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:16 PM
Feb 2012

I can't believe this new wave of craziness we're seeing...

What happened to a woman's right to think for herself???

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
18. "We're not worthy!" We're not worthy!"
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:24 PM
Feb 2012

Such is life in the Republican "Wayne's World" view of women in America.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
15. I can't say what I would like to do to these regressive assholes
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:19 PM
Feb 2012

Let's just say that I hope that every single asshole who is pushing this legislation is voted out of office. With extreme prejudice.

salin

(48,958 posts)
17. Back to the kitchen with you - and take off your shoes!
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:24 PM
Feb 2012

Yep back to the days of the metaphor barefoot and pregnant.

Bigger point - some GOP talkers are expressing out loud the idea that sex should only be for the purpose of procreation. So should there be legislation that males - whose female partners have crossed the menopause threshold - should be forbidden (as it is illegal) from having relations with their wives/partners?

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
19. They need to attack this legislation piece by piece.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:31 PM
Feb 2012

This part about allowing potential grandparents to sue is so wrong. The same for fathers that are not even a spouse. I would think that normally women would discuss this with their husbands before considering an abortion. And that in those cases that don't involve negative issues with the husband and an abortion is performed against the wishes of the husband then his recourse should only be a divorce.

How can grandparents have any standing in this when their daughter in all likelihood would be emancipated? Either they are or they are not.

Women need to stand outside the capitol with pig balls held high. Some of the women of these legislators need to do the same in the bedroom.

blue neen

(12,465 posts)
20. It seems that this is in direct violation of the federal HIPAA act.
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:38 PM
Feb 2012

"Your Health Information Is Protected By Federal Law"

"Most of us believe that our medical and other health information is private and should be protected, and we want to know who has this information. The Privacy Rule, a Federal law, gives you rights over your health information and sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information. The Privacy Rule applies to all forms of individuals' protected health information, whether electronic, written, or oral. The Security Rule, a Federal law that protects health information in electronic form, requires entities covered by HIPAA to ensure that electronic protected health information is secure."

Oh, yeah. Pennsylvania can really afford to be sued by the federal government. After all, Governor Gashole keeps proclaiming that we're broke so he can keep cutting services and education.

What a bunch of idiots.

derby378

(30,262 posts)
21. A transvaginal sonogram law has already been passed in Texas
Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:42 PM
Feb 2012

And they used the same justification: women are too damn stupid to know what's going on in their own uteri during pregnancy, so we're going to shove a transvaginal probe between their legs and make them watch. Or at least describe it to them if they refuse to watch. Either way, they're getting raped by a politician using a doctor as legal proxy.

DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
22. Among other things, it's a repellent abuse of Medicine.
Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:26 AM
Feb 2012

There is no other motivation here than to co-opt the medical profession to physically abuse and emotionally humiliate women in an incredibly vulnerable state.

It would be hard to dream up a more vicious and inhuman aim for legislation, but apparently some Republicans and religious conservatives take sadistic joy in finding cowardly ways to demean people they hate.

I hope doctors' groups put their full authority behind smashing this perversion of the healer's role.
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