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ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:33 PM Sep 2013

Latin America, unanimous against a possible U.S. attack against Syria

The nations of Latin America are almost unanimous against the world day of fasting and prayer for peace in Syria (sic) , proclaimed from the Vatican. And not just about countries whose governments openly sympathize with Damascus.*

Venezuela

The president of Venezuela , Nicolas Maduro , said that with the exception of ” fascist right ” and ” Pinochet ‘s followers ” , people will join the vigil on Saturday proposed by Pope Francisco . The president will attend in person and asks his countrymen not ” believe that because the missiles are falling in Syria ( … ) is not going to affect the lives of the rest of the planet.” “Sure that will influence ! ” Said Maduro.

Late last month, the Venezuelan leader condemned ” strongly any attempt by the imperialist powers to launch military attacks against Syrian territory , taking as a pretext the chemical warfare attack executed by unknown on August 21 ,” according to a statement prayed released by the Foreign Ministry of the country.


(...)

Bolivia

In Bolivia , the task of convening ” the faithful and people of good will to join in prayer and fasting” was in the hands of the bishops’ conference . No secular authorities reviewed the request of Pope Francisco , however, promise a significant influx ecclesiastical parishes of those who want peace to Syria.

For its part, the Bolivian president , Evo Morales , often raises the issue of Syria in his press conferences . He is certain that Washington started war after war in order ” to seize natural resources such as oil and even freshwater reserves .”

(...)

Chile

” The Government of Chile is party to any military action is done in the context of multinational institutions is United Nations and the Security Council and not unilaterally by one or a group of countries,” Bush explained .

Uruguay

“War is not resolved by introducing more war allegedly fairer ,” he said on the eve of Uruguay President Jose Mujica . ” The only permissible bombing we see in Syria is dry milk , with biscuits and food, not guns or bombs .”

Argentina

With a rigorous special positions have been declared the most economically developed countries in South America recently closed the G20 summit in St. Petersburg .

” At death they are not solved with more deaths,” stressed the President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner barely reached the northern Russian city to attend the meeting. ” A military intervention would be disastrous ,” he said on more than one occasion, “There is nothing worse than war .”

Brazil

Rousseff was concise in his public statements about the possible bombing of Syrian territory between the leaders participating in the summit in St. Petersburg. ” Brazil does not recognize military action in Syria without UN approval ,” said the president.

Read more:
http://www.lospuebloshablan.org/?p=11378&lang=en


The sign reads: "The Nobel Peace Prize (winner) wants a war"

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*I believe the OP meant "The nations of Latin America are almost unanimous against against a possible attack on Syria during the world day of fasting and prayer*"

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Latin America, unanimous against a possible U.S. attack against Syria (Original Post) ocpagu Sep 2013 OP
LA politicians united arely staircase Sep 2013 #1
Yep. Wonderful to see politicians united for peace, rather than war. ocpagu Sep 2013 #2
he has considerable support among them, huh arely staircase Sep 2013 #4
Yep, he does. ocpagu Sep 2013 #5
I'm a Christian so I should be pro-Assad? arely staircase Sep 2013 #6
I don't care. ocpagu Sep 2013 #7
Same with CARICOM malaise Sep 2013 #3
Yep. Even allies as Chile as giving US the cold shoulder. n/t ocpagu Sep 2013 #8
President Maduro wrote him a personal letter about Syria Catherina Sep 2013 #9
Wonderful letter! ocpagu Sep 2013 #11
My favorite: From one Nobel Peace Laureate to another (from Adolfo Pérez Esquivel to Barack Obama) Catherina Sep 2013 #10
Six countries is not enough to claim "All of Latin America is unanimous" there are 20 countries stevenleser Sep 2013 #12
It's no hyperbole. ocpagu Sep 2013 #13

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
1. LA politicians united
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:39 PM
Sep 2013

and is someone in that protest picture actually carrying a picture of Assad? wow.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
2. Yep. Wonderful to see politicians united for peace, rather than war.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 06:46 PM
Sep 2013

The picture is from Brazil...... which has the largest Syrian community outside Syria (7% of Brazilians have Syrian ancestry). He has considerable support among them.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
5. Yep, he does.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:00 PM
Sep 2013

Most Syrians living in Latin America are Christians. You know, the minority that the rebels which the US supports are killing mercilessly.

You want a video, or do you prefer photos?

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
7. I don't care.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 07:04 PM
Sep 2013

I won't judge them. It's comfortable for you to take such a position, when you're not a minority being hunted during a civil war. Assads grants them a secular state, which is what the jihadists and radicals the US wants to take power in Syria will end.

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
9. President Maduro wrote him a personal letter about Syria
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:11 PM
Sep 2013
Maduro also sent Obama a letter calling for peace in Syria. It was written on Sunday and handed over to the White House on Monday, according to foreign minister Elias Jaua. The translation of the letter is included here:

Caracas 1 September 2013

Your Excellency,

Barack Obama,

President of the United States of North America

On behalf of the people of Simon Bolivar and Comandante Hugo Chavez, I am writing to you in defence of the cause of peace and as a staunch enemy of war. This letter calls on you to reflect on the unjust, nefarious and frightening possibility of a U.S. military intervention against the people of Syria.

These words have no other intention, President Obama, than to accompany the people’s demands for a world where peace is the everyday way of understanding ourselves as brothers and sisters. I make these beautiful words of Simon Bolivar mine, entirely mine, “Peace will be my port, my glory, my reward, my hope, my happiness and everything that is beautiful in the world”. In the same way, this is about following the path that Jesus of Nazareth shows us on that beautiful beatitude: Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

After that important meeting that Secretary of State John Kerry and our Chancellor Elias Jaua had on the occasion of the 43rd General Assembly of the Organisation of American States, held in the city of Antigua, Guatemala , I stated the following : There may be a relationship of respect with the government of the United States, relations on equal terms…We can process our differences. It is in this same spirit that now leads me to address you, with the hope that beyond the differences, we can join hands so that actions as disastrous such as those in Iraq , Afghanistan or Libya are never again repeated. In particular, I want to be a spokesman of the feelings of millions and millions of people in Our America and around the world through social networks, and many other means, who ask for a ceasing of hostilities, as well as for there to be no military intervention by foreign powers in the Syrian Arab Republic. Such military intervention would be disastrous for the entire eastern Mediterranean region, a meeting place of historic paths of our civilisation.

Referring to Bush and the Pentagon hawks, Susan Sontag, that great US and universal conscience, said with sharp irony: “Because they are always right. For them, to demonstrate American power is good in itself. They might as well not capture Saddam Hussein, would not care if the weapons attributed to the former Iraqi regime ever appeared, war was justified by itself, period. On the eve of the invasion they played with four or five excuses and in the end opted for weapons of mass destruction. If the president hadn’t gotten rid of Saddam Hussein he would be in breach of his constitutional mandate to protect the American people. Not another day could be given to the Hans Blix inspectors; the situation required an emergency intervention because Iraqi nuclear missiles were already aimed at our cities...” As you well know, it was a well put together farce, but which resulted in the destruction of Iraq and which killed a million Iraqis. Everything Sontag says is perfectly applicable to Syria here and now: the farce is being repeated point by point. Again, immoral and criminal war is justified by itself, period.

By the way, yesterday the Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) held its VII Summit in Paramaribo, Suriname Republic. The South American bloc issued a joint statement with its position on Syria. I draw your attention to this document condemning external interventions that are inconsistent with the United Nations Charter and also rejecting the development of interventionist strategies of all kinds.

Remember yourself, President Obama, remember where you came from, remember your African-American roots . Remember the shining examples of dignity of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King in which you were educated, and that led you to fight for a better future. Remember your origins: remember yourself as that young leader and social activist from Chicago. Remember how you directly opposed the Iraq war and rejected the whole network of lies with which they tried to justify it.

Do not disregard the beating of consciousness in these words of Malcolm X, which are completely applicable: “And if these people of these different regions start to see that their problem a common problem... and if we the 22 million black Americans see that our problem is the same as the problem of the people who are being oppressed in South Vietnam and the Congo and Latin America -for the oppressed of the earth constitute a majority and not a minority-, then let’s face our problems as a majority that can make demands, and not as a minority who has to beg”. Taking inspiration from the spirit and words of brother Malcolm, I want to convey a firm conviction: Today we are millions of men and women around the planet who take on the right to demand that you definitively reject the possibility of a military venture against the noble people of Syria. As the great John Lennon sang: “All we are saying is give peace a chance”.

‘Does Obama know he is fighting on the side of Al-Qaeda?’ goes the title of an enlightening article by Robert Fisk recently published in The Independent. Fisk says: “There will be some irony, of course. While the US uses drone strikes to kill members of Al-Qaeda in Yemen and Pakistan, -along, of course, with the usual groups of civilians- the US will at the same time facilitate, with the help of Mr. Cameron, Hollande and other small politician-generals, material assistance in Syria to get the enemies of Al-Qaeda. In fact, you can bet your bottom dollar that the only target that the US is not going to bomb in Syria is Al-Qaeda or the Al-Nusra Front. There you find the dangerous sea of contradictions on which the U.S. foreign policy has fallen.

I would anxiously ask you, President Obama, in the light of Fisk’s reflection: are you going to declare and start a war to promote the accession to power of Al-Qaeda in Syria?

May the Syrian people resolve their conflicts themselves, under the sacred right to self-determination that is bestowed on all sovereign nations. All mercenary forces should that have caused so much destruction and so much death already, should leave Syria.

As comandante Chavez said, this is a new Armageddon. In a world that is under the real threat of a permanent war, no one is safe. Is that the world you want? A world where the peace of cemeteries reigns?

At this time of crucial decisions, we wonder together with Howard Zinn: “Shouldn’t we ask everyone to forget their inflamed speeches for a moment and imagine what war will mean for human beings whose faces we will not come to know, whose names will not be seen except in some future war monument?” What we do in pursuit of lasting peace and stability of any nation on the planet will never be enough, because the wellbeing of a people exalts us while their pain diminishes us to the vilest inhumanity.

We, from the love of peace that the Venezuelan people cultivate, reject war and say no to bombs, desolation and death. That is our hope, the same that fed the soul of Martin Luther King when he said:”If I knew that the world would end tomorrow, I, today would still plant a tree”. This tree is the one we want to flourish in these tense and ominous times.

I aspire and hope that the call that I have made to you in this letter, Mr. President, doesn’t fall on empty ears. I aspire and hope that you rectify and proceed to stop the war machine that has already been set up. I aspire and I hope that you stop the beating of the funeral drums of war on Syria. I pray for it to be so.

Peace in Syria and the world!

No War!



Nicolas Maduro

Chavez lives, the homeland continues!

Published on Sep 4th 2013 at 11.19am


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ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
11. Wonderful letter!
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:15 PM
Sep 2013

"Remember yourself, President Obama, remember where you came from, remember your African-American roots . Remember the shining examples of dignity of Malcolm X and Martin Luther King in which you were educated, and that led you to fight for a better future. Remember your origins: remember yourself as that young leader and social activist from Chicago. Remember how you directly opposed the Iraq war and rejected the whole network of lies with which they tried to justify it."

Thanks a lot for sharing it!

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
10. My favorite: From one Nobel Peace Laureate to another (from Adolfo Pérez Esquivel to Barack Obama)
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:13 PM
Sep 2013

Reposisting from the thread: From one Nobel Peace Laureate to another (from Adolfo Pérez Esquivel to Barack Obama)

Open letter to President Barack Obama
Adolfo Pérez Esquivel

Hear the outcry of the peoples!

The situation in Syria is an object of serious preoccupation and once more the United States, assuming the role of the world's policeman, proposes to invade Syria in the name of "Freedom" and "Human Rights".

Your predecessor George W. Bush, in his messianic madness, invoked religious fundamentalism to launch his messianic wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. When he declared that he talked with God, and God told him that he had to attack Iraq, he did so claiming it was the message of God to export "freedom" to the world.

You have spoken, on the occasion of the fiftieth anniversary of the death of the Reverend Martin Luther King, also a Nobel Peace Laureate, of the need to complete the "Dream" of a shared table, of he who was the most significant expression of the struggle for civil rights against racism in the first slave-holding democracy in the world. Martin Luther King was a man who gave his life to give life, and because of this he is a martyr in our own time. They killed him after the March on Washington because he threatened civil disobedience rather than complicity with the imperialist war against the people of Vietnam. Can you really believe that a military invasion of another people can realize this dream?

Arming rebels in order to authorize the intervention of NATO is nothing new for your country and your allies. Nor is it new for the United States to propose to invade countries accusing them of possessing weapons of mass destruction, which in the case of Iraq turned out to be untrue. Your country supported the regime of Saddam Hussein when he deployed chemical weapons to annihilate the Kurdish people and against the Iranian Revolution, and there was no talk of sanctions, since at that time they (Saddam and Iraq) were your allies. But now you propose to invade Syria without knowing the results of the investigations being realized by the United Nations with the authorization of the Syrian government. There is no doubt that the use of chemical arms is immoral and to be condemned, but your government has no moral authority whatsoever to justify an intervention.

The Secretary General of the United Nations, Ban Ki-Moon, has stated that a military attack on Syria could make matters worse.

My own country, Argentina, which is now exercising the Presidency of the Security Council of the United Nations, has made public its stance against a foreign military intervention in the Republic of Syria, refusing to be "an accomplice in new deaths."

Pope Francis has also called for a globalization of the movement for Peace and decreed a day of prayer and fasting against the war for September 7, and we ourselves will observe this call.

Even your historical ally, the United Kingdom, has refused (at least for the moment) to be part of this invasion.

Your country is transforming the "Arab Spring" into a NATO inferno, provoking wars in the Middle East and unleashing the pillage of international corporations. The invasion that you propose will only lead to more violence and more death, as well as the destabilization of Syria and of the whole region. To what end? The lucid analyst, Robert Fisk, has noted that the objective is Iran and the postponement of the establishment of a Palestinian state; it is not indignation at the death of hundreds of Syrian children that moves you to intervene militarily. And this at the moment when a moderate government has been democratically elected in Iran, under which it is possible to undertake negotiations and peaceful solutions to existing conflicts. The policy put forward by you and your country could be suicidal.

Syria needs a political rather than a military solution. The international community should support those social organizations that work for peace. The Syrian people, as any other, have a right to self-determination and to define their own democratic process and we should help them to achieve this where they need us.

Obama, your country does not have the moral authority, the legitimacy, nor the legal base to invade Syria or any other country. Much less considering you have assassinated 220,000 persons in Japan by using bombs of massive destruction.

No Congressperson of the United States can legitimize what cannot be legitimate, nor legalize what cannot be legal. This is especially true if we take into account the statement, a few days ago, of the former U.S. President James Carter: "The United States does not have a functioning democracy."

The illegal wiretapping done by your government against the people of the United States is hardly efficient, since according to a public survey done by Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/25/us-syria-crisis-usa-poll-idUSBRE97O00E20130825), 60% of U.S. citizens oppose the invasion that you want to undertake.

This is why I ask you, Mister Obama, to whom do you obey?

Your government has become a danger for international equilibrium as well as for the people of the United States. It has become a country that cannot resist exporting death to maintain its power and its economy. We will not cease to try to impede this.


I was in Iraq after the bombing campaign that the United States undertook in the 1990s, before the invasion that overthrew Saddam Hussein. I saw a refuge full of women and children assassinated by guided missiles. You call these "collateral damage."

Peoples are saying ENOUGH! to wars. Humanity calls for Peace and the right to live in freedom. The people want to turn swords into ploughshares, and the way to achieve this is to "DISARM THE ARMED CONCIENCES."

Mister Obama, you must not forget that we always reap the fruit that we sow. Any human being should be sowing humanity and peace, especially one who has a Nobel Peace Prize. I hope that you will not end up converting the "dream of brotherhood" that Martin Luther King hoped for into a nightmare for peoples and humanity.

Please accept my greetings for Peace and Good Will

Adolfo Pérez Esquivel
Noble Peace Laureate

September 4 2013


http://warisacrime.org/content/one-nobel-peace-laureate-another
http://www.adolfoperezesquivel.org/?p=3324

Italian version here: http://www3.varesenews.it/blog/labottegadelpittore/?p=13183
French version here: http://alireagenevesuissemonde.blog.tdg.ch/archive/2013/09/07/correspondance-latina-adolfo-perez-esquivel-a-barack-obama-2.html
Spanish original here: http://www.adolfoperezesquivel.org/?p=3324

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
12. Six countries is not enough to claim "All of Latin America is unanimous" there are 20 countries
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:17 PM
Sep 2013

in Latin America.

There are really good reasons to be against the strike. We don't have to resort to hyperbole and incorrect stuff.

 

ocpagu

(1,954 posts)
13. It's no hyperbole.
Sun Sep 8, 2013, 08:26 PM
Sep 2013

The OP is just highlighting some of the countries that are opposed. It doesn't mean the ones which were not mentioned are not against it.

You can add Guyana to the list, for example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110821776

Didn't see anything from Ecuador's Rafael Correa, but I'm pretty sure he's opposed too.

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