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Avalux
(35,015 posts)My daughter made a very astute observation last night. We were discussing this crisis, and I told her my opinion of the whole matter. She said she can tell by watching and listening to Obama that he doesn't want military action; he's different than when he usually campaigns for something he wants.
Thanks for the rec.
pasto76
(1,589 posts)case in point, THE PRESIDENT had every chance to extend the occupation of Iraq. And he bowed out as quickly as possible. Means no more of my soldiers are dying in Iraq.
This president is not a war monger. If he thought missiles strikes would prevent more usage of chemical weapons, he would do it. He is, clearly, open to every other idea out there. Hoping the Russians are not bullshitting on this.
never doubted him, ever.
Peacetrain
(24,286 posts)I completely forgot about that
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)just brainlessly support the president on everything.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Or to be more precise - we should trust that the President knows what he's doing; he has more information than we do. Which is problematic because the information i can see doesn't justify lobbing bombs at Syria even with congressional approval- let alone without.
Bryant
Buddaman
(503 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)who could get elected President that would handle it your way?
cali
(114,904 posts)I do think it's better not to draw obvious rhetorical red lines. You box yourself in that way. And you can convey the seriousness with which you view something without using that language.
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Which is entirely different.
http://tosh.comedycentral.com/video-clips/tosh-is-better-than-you
pasto76
(1,589 posts)he ended one war. He has clearly won every showdown with the House over the budget. He got taxes raised on the uber rich for the first time in 35 years. DADT is gone, I now have a female 13M driver in my MLRS battery and all the gays can get married and put themselves in purgatory like the rest of us.
yeah, its brainless to support the president when he actually gets shit done. Sorry to rain on your pity party
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)The Iraq war ended on the SOFA made by Preznit Boooosch.
"...clearly won every showdown with the House over the budget"--if that was winning, I'd hate to see what losing looks like. We did get the sequester, didn't we? That was a "win"?
"He got taxes raised on the uber rich for the first time in 35 years"--all he had to do was NOTHING to get taxes raised not just on the uber rich, but the rich.
DADT was hardly a singular victory on Obama's part, and "all the gays can get married" was a) a Supreme Court decision and b) doesn't apply to all the gays.
You will have to try harder, or more appropriately, Obama will.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)And still torturing people...but no one even remembers that.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I remember when that first came out in October or so 2008. How many DU posts were there worrying about how badly he was handling that campaign!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)I also remember that Obama has a long game like no other.
hootinholler
(26,451 posts)
pkdu
(3,977 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)
Avalux
(35,015 posts)whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Is there anyone you would support, were they President?
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)I only support politicians when they do the right thing.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Based on your limited knowledge and experience.
And none of your fellow constituents should have a say.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)In a case where I'm denied the knowledge, I'll always stand by personal principle before pledging blind allegiance to "the leader". Thankfully, in regard to Syria most of my fellow constituents agree with me.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Blind allegiance or, what, doing the job yourself? Because that's the only way you'll have all the knowledge.
It's not blind allegiance, it's letting them do the job. They were elected to do it.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Though knowing you, you'll probably trust and support any war proposed by any authority figure.
tblue
(16,350 posts)I support policies and positions. I wish people could understand it's not about any kinda WHO. I spend exactly 0 minutes worrying about who I should support, let alone who someone else should support. Who cares?
Brother Buzz
(39,745 posts)Now, on to something of substance: I Like Pie. You Like Pie, Too?

Avalux
(35,015 posts)Especially pie that ends up on faces of naysayers.
Mr.Bill
(24,906 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)the doubters are not amused Mr Bill!
Cha
(317,852 posts)Thanks Avalux.
Thanks Avalux!
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Hekate
(100,133 posts)It's from 2008, when many were predicting Obama's imminent demise at the ballot box. So far, so good, in that regard.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)VanillaRhapsody
(21,115 posts)RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)RL
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)that things maybe panning out in favor of America.
Poor gopers are losing their "edge" of implementing the impeachment, oh wait, it doesn't matter, they will still do it. Right now instead of anything concerning a jobs bill they are planning on another vote to defund Obamacare and try and trap the Dems.
Sequester? Na, more cuts like snap so they can feed the weathly. What is the hous gopers doing right not besides trying to defund Obamacare, absolutely nothing.
So hell yea, chill out, Pres O got this.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)
SammyWinstonJack
(44,315 posts)5X
(3,989 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Speaking at a news conference with British Foreign Secretary William Hague, Kerry said that al-Assad could turn over every single bit of his chemical weapons to the international community in the next week.
The U.S. secretary of state described that as an impossible scenario.
He isnt about to do it, Kerry said. And it cant be done, obviously.
The State Department later sought to clarify Kerrys comment as a rhetorical argument, and one U.S. official called it a major goof, adding that Americas top diplomat clearly went off script.
There is no one in the administration who is taking this Syria proposal seriously, the official said.
Read more: http://pix11.com/2013/09/09/hillary-clinton-important-step-if-syria-surrenders-chemical-weapons/#ixzz2eQyXInhH
polichick
(37,626 posts)rury
(1,021 posts)He HAS got this despite the naysayers, doubters and other who carp at and criticize him every chane they get.
President Obama is doing an outstanding job and my faith in him remains unshaken.
Much of the shit thrown at him underscores the fact that if you are black you have to be twice as good at your job in order to get half the credit.
And it is said that some he is often judged that way by people who call themselves liberals.
Divine Discontent
(21,057 posts)that things seem to work out for this guy!
I hope it gets resolved diplomatically. And, if so, they deserve credit

http://www.zazzle.com/elizabeth_warren_for_president_of_the_usa_bumper_sticker-128665143471542797?rf=238107662556833486dit.
Pretzel_Warrior
(8,361 posts)reusrename
(1,716 posts)
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)when I mentioned that he had just run a red light.

