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Wait for it----Wait for it--- Wait for it... Awww there it is... (Original Post) trumad Sep 2013 OP
Great, now how about a domestic economic victory. Dawgs Sep 2013 #1
Since 2008 trumad Sep 2013 #4
2008 was five years ago. My question was, 'when was his last?'. Dawgs Sep 2013 #10
Getting this agency a permanent (and confirmed) head? BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #12
here you go! snooper2 Sep 2013 #15
Ha! Dawgs Sep 2013 #29
Texas didn't take any stimulus money?! This is crazy!!!! uponit7771 Sep 2013 #45
In April 2012, Cryptoad Sep 2013 #27
So nothing recently then? n/t Dawgs Sep 2013 #30
Ohhhhh ,,,,,,, those not enough Cryptoad Sep 2013 #32
How is is "pushed Fed Agencies to be green leaders" a major accomplishment? Doctor_J Sep 2013 #54
Really? trumad Sep 2013 #31
Shrinking the deficit was his biggest mistake. truebluegreen Sep 2013 #50
Shouldn't you be asking the Rethugs in Congress that question? Jeez!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Sep 2013 #37
Let's see.. VanillaRhapsody Sep 2013 #7
Cause the middle class is STILL in a Great Depression?! Really?! !!?!?!? ODS much?! regards uponit7771 Sep 2013 #44
As long as Americans are dumb enough to keep the House in Republican hands, toddwv Sep 2013 #52
like a spring shower in may..... madrchsod Sep 2013 #2
I'll be happy to celebrate when it happens n2doc Sep 2013 #3
+1 nt Javaman Sep 2013 #21
I told you. Baitball Blogger Sep 2013 #5
tell me. i want to see. i have been off the computer lately with personal life.... seabeyond Sep 2013 #6
I'm drunk too!!! N-t Logical Sep 2013 #8
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Wait a few and try again when it plays out. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #13
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Let the end results speak for themselves. BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #18
wait till it plays out? tell that to the OP as he takes a victory lap. frylock Sep 2013 #20
The OP said to wait for it. BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #33
the "wait for it" was a dig, not a request to wait and see how it plays out frylock Sep 2013 #34
When a contestant is in the stretch BumRushDaShow Sep 2013 #41
oh, i'm sorry. i keep forgetting this is just like a saturday afternoon college football matchup.. frylock Sep 2013 #42
With Morans trumad Sep 2013 #14
Well that should get the collection plate filled at the church. n/t L0oniX Sep 2013 #17
So, BHO finally learned how to play his infamous 11-Dimensional checkers ??? blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #19
UPI is already giving him an F underpants Sep 2013 #22
More like: --- Wait for it --- Ah! Dodged that bullet! -- Except for this painful scratch. Ow. Kablooie Sep 2013 #23
Are you SERIOUS???!!!! BrainDrain Sep 2013 #24
What you said. bullsnarfle Sep 2013 #46
wait for what? stupidicus Sep 2013 #25
Do you have any idea how easy it is to restart their chem program? BlueStreak Sep 2013 #26
Obama just punked Putin and Assad mwrguy Sep 2013 #28
K & R Scurrilous Sep 2013 #35
lets have patience. USA is a tough ship to steer in todays world Sunlei Sep 2013 #36
I prefer jumping to conclusions and pointlessly comparing Democrats to Nixon, Bush, or worse Bucky Sep 2013 #40
lol, that's the good 'ol Bucky spirit! Sunlei Sep 2013 #49
Until you said "There it is" I assumed this was a sex thread Bucky Sep 2013 #38
Wow...I knew you liked Miami teams... joeybee12 Sep 2013 #39
not a bullet fired trumad Sep 2013 #43
Where? Roland99 Sep 2013 #47
over there trumad Sep 2013 #48
Over there where? avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #55
trumad JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #51
... Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2013 #53
Just like these roses here: freshwest Sep 2013 #56
KnR Hekate Sep 2013 #57
 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
10. 2008 was five years ago. My question was, 'when was his last?'.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:03 AM
Sep 2013

Do you actually care to answer?

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
15. here you go!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:18 AM
Sep 2013

Dallas sets new record in June Case-Shiller home price report

Dallas-area home prices rose by a record 8 percent in the latest Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller Home Price Index.

The increase in June from the previous year was higher than the 7.6 percent rise in May and was the largest ever recorded for Dallas in the closely-watched economic report.

Dallas-area prices are now almost 3 percent higher than they were at the peak of the market in June 2007. And local prices in the Case-Shiller index have gained more than 15 percent in value from where they were at the worst of the recession in early 2009.

Nationwide prices were up 10.1 percent in the index, with some markets seeing even higher gains, including Las Vegas, up 24.9 percent, and San Francisco, up 24.5 percent.

http://bizbeatblog.dallasnews.com/2013/08/dallas-sets-new-report-in-june-case-shiller-report.html/

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
29. Ha!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:38 PM
Sep 2013

I'm talking about action(s) that can be attributed to him directly. You know, just like in the OP.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
27. In April 2012,
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:29 PM
Sep 2013

In April 2012, Paul Glastris, Ryan Cooper, and Siyu Hu also reviewed Obama’s first term legacy and believe these are his 50 greatest achievements. So this list pre-dates DOMA and anything else in 2013. Also, I didn’t include their complete justification because of the length but you can see their narrative on each point here: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/...

1. Passed Health Care Reform
2. Passed the Stimulus
3. Passed Wall Street Reform.
4. Ended the War in Iraq
5. Began Drawdown of War in Afghanistan
6. Eliminated Osama bin laden
7. Turned Around U.S. Auto Industry
8. Recapitalized Banks
9. Repealed “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell
10. Toppled Moammar Gaddafi
11. Told Mubarak to Go
12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies
13. Improved America’s Image Abroad
14. Kicked Banks Out of Federal Student Loan Program, Expanded Pell Grant Spending
15. Created Race to the Top.
16. Boosted Fuel Efficiency Standards
17. Coordinated International Response to Financial Crisis
18. Passed Mini Stimuli
19. Began Asia “Pivot”
20. Increased Support for Veterans
21. Tightened Sanctions on Iran
22. Created Conditions to Begin Closing Dirtiest Power Plants
23. Passed Credit Card Reforms
24. Eliminated Catch-22 in Pay Equality Laws
25. Protected Two Liberal Seats on the U.S. Supreme Court
26. Improved Food Safety System.
27. Achieved New START Treaty
28. Expanded National Service: Signed Serve America Act in 2009
29. Expanded Wilderness and Watershed Protection.
30. Gave the FDA Power to Regulate Tobacco.
31. Pushed Federal Agencies to Be Green Leaders
32. Passed Fair Sentencing Act
33. Trimmed and Reoriented Missile Defense
34. Began Post-Post-9/11 Military Builddown.
35. Let Space Shuttle Die and Killed Planned Moon Mission
36. Invested Heavily in Renewable Technology.
37. Crafting Next-Generation School Tests.
38. Cracked Down on Bad For-Profit Colleges.
39. Improved School Nutrition.
40. Expanded Hate Crimes Protections.
41. Avoided Scandal.
42. Brokered Agreement for Speedy Compensation to Victims of Gulf Oil Spill.
43. Created Recovery.gov.
44. Pushed Broadband Coverage.
45. Expanded Health Coverage for Children
46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide
47. Expanded Stem Cell Research.
48. Provided Payment to Wronged Minority Farmers.
49. Helped South Sudan Declare Independence.
50. Killed the F-22

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
54. How is is "pushed Fed Agencies to be green leaders" a major accomplishment?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:15 PM
Sep 2013

Pushing something is not an accomplishment

41. Avoided Scandal.
44. Pushed Broadband Coverage.
46. Recognized the Dangers of Carbon Dioxide

and then

12. Reversed Bush Torture Policies

Nope

15. Created Race to the Top.

This is an accomplishment in much the same way as NCLB was

I think they left out "Didn't get plastered and fall down and bruise his face"

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
31. Really?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:06 PM
Sep 2013

So an accumulative massive improvement of the economy from 2008 to now isn't good enough?

How about the deficit shrinking from 10.2 of the GDP to 4.2?

I could go on if you like.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
50. Shrinking the deficit was his biggest mistake.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:40 PM
Sep 2013

That's why, five years on, the economy still sucks for everyone except the 1%.

Victory!

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
52. As long as Americans are dumb enough to keep the House in Republican hands,
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:12 PM
Sep 2013

the economy will continue to produce lackluster job creation.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
6. tell me. i want to see. i have been off the computer lately with personal life....
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:44 AM
Sep 2013

and i have not been in a lot fo the shouting threads following. i do not to well with unreasonable. so i am clueless what you are talking.

and i love obama sweet victories. they are just so.... sweet.

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BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
18. Let the end results speak for themselves.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:28 AM
Sep 2013

I expect that half of DU really does want to go to war so they can lob their own fire-bombs to prove that Obama really is the guy in the empty chair that Clint Eastwood was talking to.

Stop yelling at an empty chair.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
33. The OP said to wait for it.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:17 PM
Sep 2013

and then described what should be waited for. We are not there yet but can at least see a finish line. If anything, it's ridiculous to get mad at the means to a hopefully benign end (without the need to fire a shot) because those means don't necessarily fit a known "strategy".

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
41. When a contestant is in the stretch
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:56 PM
Sep 2013

and you have reason to believe that they will cross the finish line, rather than cheer them on, you decide to go negative and encourage them to fail? Unless you are rooting for the other side?

Seems that even before the man was inaugurated, people have been wishing and hoping and praying and predicting and even demanding that he fail. That is just sick.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
42. oh, i'm sorry. i keep forgetting this is just like a saturday afternoon college football matchup..
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:01 PM
Sep 2013

let me get my pom-pons. there we go. yaaaaaay TEAM!

Kablooie

(18,609 posts)
23. More like: --- Wait for it --- Ah! Dodged that bullet! -- Except for this painful scratch. Ow.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:52 AM
Sep 2013

Really, like everyone else, Obama shouldn't play with guns.
You can accidentally shoot yourself.

 

BrainDrain

(244 posts)
24. Are you SERIOUS???!!!!
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 11:58 AM
Sep 2013

Dude,

Whatever you are smokin....I want some.

How in the name of tiny green apples do you in ANY way see this as a victory? He was going to bomb Syria until his own congress and the rest of the dam world let him know how BAD an idea it was. Then it was an off-hand remark by a Secretary of State whom I thought I knew, that got picked up on by the Russians' of all people, and suddenly everyone was able to save face. Obama LEAST of all, but still a fig leaf is better than no leaf.

Sweet smell of victory my ass. It smells alright, but it ain't sweet, and an ass whuppin is still an ass whuppin no matter what you try and call it otherwise, 'cause Putin just took our president to school.

bullsnarfle

(254 posts)
46. What you said.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 03:04 PM
Sep 2013

When 87% (according to one NBC poll) of your own American people tell you that you are about to screw the pooch, you are probably about to screw the pooch.

And let's say Assad does hand over the chemicals (yeah, I am so holding my breath), won't he just go back to business-as-usual with conventionals? What then? The Prez is going to have a hard time backing off to his previous level of laissez faire policy after all this ballyhoo.

Prez better watch Putin like a hawk...Putin was KGB when our Prez was still in middle school. That old snake has forgotten more devious political shenanigans than a lot of pols ever knew...

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
25. wait for what?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:01 PM
Sep 2013

For those like you to praise his use of threats to defy the will of the American people http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDQQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fthehill.com%2Fblogs%2Fdefcon-hill%2Foperations%2F321103-white-house-insists-it-may-strike-syria-without-congressional-approval&ei=8kEvUr_bDoOVygGt74HYCw&usg=AFQjCNFBXlUBrxdE80vUrDtfZuH6pagNCQ&bvm=bv.51773540,d.aWc and in violation of the UN charter?

4.All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Purposes of the United Nations. http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml

Why would we wait for something that is certainly a certainty?

While one can certainly praise a good outcome, most of us will leave the approval of how it was gained to those who share the rightwingnut love of the "the ends justify the means" rationale. The line between them and many so-called "liberals" on many fronts has gotten as fuzzy as rightwingnut math...

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
26. Do you have any idea how easy it is to restart their chem program?
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 12:07 PM
Sep 2013

Anybody who thinks that Putin and Assad jumping up and offering this will end the story is nucking futz.

Obama, Putin, and Assad all know how the game is played. They each claim their little victory. Assad lays low for a couple of months, then he can get the labs working again. Obama will leave him alone because the main objective was to divert attention from the gathering uprising about the NSA.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
40. I prefer jumping to conclusions and pointlessly comparing Democrats to Nixon, Bush, or worse
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:54 PM
Sep 2013

After that, I usually like to go on a tear about how there's really only one political party in this country and then tie it all into crop circles.

 

Hell Hath No Fury

(16,327 posts)
53. ...
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 07:23 PM
Sep 2013


There are a thousand ways to Sunday this could still go wrong. Israel and Saudi Arabia are going to be seriously unhappy campers if there are no strikes. Putin/Assad could play us like fiddles. Assad could continue to bomb the fuck out of his people with conventional weapons. A rebel group might decide to "prod" us into a strike with a convenient new chem attack.

We are far from out of the woods on this one.
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