let's be clear. Americans Elect is a front group for the GOP.

[scheming daemons]

They are run by former PUMAs and republicans.

Their 'goal' is to nominate a third party candidate to take more votes from Obama than from the GOP nominee.

That's why they are floating names like Bernie Sanders and Ralph Nader around.


Their goal is to elect a republican president. Their method for doing that is to split the anti-republican vote.


It should be American Select, not Americans Elect.


If we democrats are still listening to ANYTHING Nader has to say, then shame on us.

[SidDithers]

1. K&R...nt

Sid

[liberal N proud]

2. Their goal is deception

[annabanana]

3. A Hedge Fund Construct.. formed as a "fail safe"

protection from both stark raving mad fringe repub and a 2nd term for The Prez.

CorpoCandidate© will be very very popular with CorpoMedia©.. You can count on it.

[MADem]

4. Yes--it's the "We're not batshit crazy" wing of the GOP... nt

[annabanana]

9. It's the "we don't care what you call

yourself as long as you don't rock the corporations" party...

[Initech]

5. What isn't a GOP front group? There's like 100,000 that are.

[rhett o rick]

6. Your OP says "let's be clear" and then you provide no evidence. This is the

first I've heard of American Elect and I would be interested in some facts. Who are the "former PUMA's and republicans"?

[ProSense]

8. Here's

more: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002364725

[rhett o rick]

25. Thanks. nm

[MADem]

10. They've been all over the place recently. It's pretty clear, if you know about them,

that they're full of shit. They're old wine in a new bottle, is all.

[TheWraith]

11. Lynn Forester de Rothschild. Christine Todd Whitman.

Doug Schoen, one of the three partners in Penn Schoen and Berland, aka the most disgustingly corrupt and evil set of political consultants in the known world.

Etcetera.

[LanternWaste]

7. Don't forget Poland...

Don't forget Poland...

[libinnyandia]

12. How can that be? Ralph Nader is promoting the group.

Mr Nader would never advocate for a third party candidacy.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

13. So, who's going to vote for them? Moderates or leftists?

I guess it would "depend on the candidate" as Nader said.

[Rectangle]

14. I believe in 2008 Nader got around .4% of the vote. Hopefully, this time, we can

cut that in half --or more!!

[Cali_Democrat]

15. Lynn Forester de Rothschild is not a PUMA

[Cali_Democrat]

18. BTW...I'm kidding

[Better Believe It]

16. Their most supported "3rd party"candidates in 2012 are Republicans to split Republican votes!

Of course! That's the ticket! As clear as mud! So which Republican candidate do you think this Republican party controlled group will wind up running as a third-party candidate to split the Republican vote?

Oh .... you might want to provide a credible link on their funding and backers.

Most Supported

Ron Paul
3260 Supporters

Jon Huntsman
1708 Supporters

So people can either visit the actual website to find out what they are about or depend on you for accurate information.

Just in case here's the website link:

https://secure.americanselect.org/candidates

[SidDithers]

17. Keep trying...nt

Sid

[white_wolf]

19. Thank you for posting actual facts.

You don't see those enough around here.

[ProSense]

20. Here's

"Thank you for posting actual facts. You don't see those enough around here."

...a fact: Nader mentioned two candidates, Buddy Roemer and David Walker.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002364725

If you're searching for facts, there's some information on them at the link.

[Better Believe It]

21. The former Executive Director of the DNC, Les Francis, is listed a leading backer.

Hardly a tool organizing a front group for the Republican party!

Les Francis
Principal/Senior Advisor, Washington Media Group; former Executive Director of the Democratic National Committee and the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

This seems to be mainly a group of well off "moderate" bi-partisan" Democrats and Republicans who aren't satisfied with Obama or the Republican contenders, but hardly a front group for the right-wing loony tunes Republicans.

I'm not familiar with most of the names.

But, DU'ers should check out the published list of backers and not depend on political talking points for their information.

Here's the list:

http://secure.americanselect.org/who-we-are

[ProSense]

22. Question:

"The former Executive Director of the DNC, Les Francis, is listed a leading backer. "

So? Ben Nelson is a Democrat.

I mean, do you agree with Nader on the two candidates he cited: Buddy "Thank God for Paul Ryan" Roemer and David Walker?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002364725

[DonCoquixote]

23. To anyone supporting these people

How can anyone on the remote left support a group that is backed by Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild? That woman makes Grover Norquist look like a busboy, and has often stated that Obama "demonizes the rich." As far as Ron Paul, he would gut the EPA, Department of interior, department of education, minunum wage, and the civil rights act of 1964. This is not conjkecture, he has said these things very clearly, and while Huntsman might be nice enough, he wants war with Iran. Yes, that one issue is enough for me to reject him, as it was the issue that made me reject Clinton in 2008.

If Nader wants to make a case, he had better use better evidence. If the whole point ios to get a candidate we like, who is to the LEFT of OBAMA, folks like Paul, Huntsman, or whoever Rothschild anoints won't cut it.

[gulliver]

26. If there is even one Republican backing it, it's worthless.

Why take a chance on voting for something even one Republican is behind? Just vote Democratic and be sure you aren't handing power to nuts.

It seems obvious. I don't get how any genuine Progressive could even think of voting for any candidate from any group that has any Republican backing it. Too risky. Republicans have lost their minds and failure to consign their current politics to the dustbin of history is a moral and intellectual failure.

[Better Believe It]

34. Like the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act?

[gulliver]

36. This is a good example of a bad argument.

It is very helpful. Those who see through it immediately probably find it either amusing or maddening. Those who are persuaded by it need to shore up their intellectual defenses a bit.

[scheming daemons]

29. You've been working to turn Democrats away from Obama for 3 years

So it doesn't surprise me that you'd defend Americans Elect.

You and they have the same goal: peel left-leaning voters away from the President this fall.

Your slip is showing.

[DonCoquixote]

24. Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild shows her colors

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/19/lynn-de-rothschild-jon-huntsman_n_1159189.html

"I would ultimately back Romney over Obama," she said, if she were forced to choose

Asked who her wish-list candidates might be, de Rothschild named CIA Director David Petraeus, former Washington D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee, and David Walker, a former comptroller general of the United States under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

"The polls show we as a nation are fiscally conservative and socially tolerant," de Rothschild said, "and neither party is offering a candidate on that platform."

[eridani]

27. They are also pimping for online elections

IMO, that's even worse.

[GeorgeGist]

28. References would be useful.

[madokie]

30. f**k nader and the white corvair he rode in on

[magical thyme]

31. more astroturf.

what bugs me about them the most is how phenomenally stupid and gullible they think we are.

[FSogol]

32. K & R. n/t

[flamingdem]

33. k&r

[FarLeftFist]

35. Yup, Ron Paul is in the lead for their candidacy.