dad wears short shorts to teach daughter a lesson

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://blog.sfgate.com/sfmoms/2013/09/13/dad-wears-short-shorts-to-teach-daughter-a-lesson/

A hilarious image of a balding dad wearing Daisy Duke cut-off shorts is speeding across the Internet faster than the General E. Lee ever raced through Hazard County.

The story behind the photograph is that a Utah father had reached the last straw with his teenage daughter who insisted on catting around town in short-shorts.

Scott Mackintosh asked his daughter Myley to change into a longer pair of shorts one night before the family was going to dinner and to play a round of mini-golf. When the unruly teen refused, Mackintosh on a whim turned a pair of jeans into cut-offs. He sported them on the family field-trip in hopes of embarrassing his daughter and proving a point.

Myley successfully ignored her dad, who was also wearing a “Best Dad Ever” T-shirt, through dinner and mini-golf, but when the family stopped for milkshakes she refused to get out of the car.

“There was no ‘Dad I get it’ or ‘Dad you’re the best…. thanks for that awesome lesson,” he admitted. “I don’t think my object lesson of ‘modest is hottest’ made the statement I had intended. But no matter if social media gets the story mixed up and twisted, my daughter will always know that her dad loves her and cares about her enough to make a fool out of himself.”

[liberal_at_heart]

1. my daughter wouldn't have said a word to her father because she wants the freedom to wear what she

wants. If that means walking around with her father in short shorts she would do it. My daughter is 18. She wears what she wants and she does wear short shorts.

[NYC_SKP]

2. I don't know. Lieutenant Jim Dangle pulled it off just fine!

[dem in texas]

3. i Love it!

The best lessons for a teen is to do something to embarrass them. I used to have fuzzy purple housecoat and if my kids goofed off and missed the school in the mornings, I would take them drive them school wearing my purple housecoat which embarrassed them to no end. If they stayed out too late, I would threaten to come looking for them in my purple housecoat, it always worked and we still laugh about that old purple housecoat.

[Common Sense Party]

7. I salute you.

[Barack_America]

4. I so love this story.

Humiliation is such an under-utilized parenting skill with teenagers.

[R B Garr]

5. Absolutely hilarious. Brilliant even.

I saw this story earlier and just cracked up.

[fadedrose]

6. Where's his torn wifebeater shirt? nt

[hunter]

8. Oh bother.

Type the right words into your favorite search engine and you can find pictures of me naked.

Still looking for the one of me on the shore of Mono Lake wearing only a hat.

I was hot.

[Skittles]

74. I WILL KICK NAKED MONO LAKE HUNTER ASS

YES INDEED

[TorchTheWitch]

9. here's a better idea

Don't allow your teenage daughter to purchase or wear inappropriate clothing. You're the parent, you make the rules. My parents didn't have to come up with stupid stunts to make me realize too short shorts were inappropriate. They weren't purchased, and if I was dumb enough to wear them where they could see me in them I would have been made to change into something more appropriate or not leave the house.

What's wrong with parents when they just can't say to their kids, no you can't do that, and if you do it anyway there will be consequences that make it worth not doing it and following through?

Worse, he sent the wrong message to his daughter. His message was "look how silly you look in short shorts" when it should have been "naive teenage girls wearing short shorts in public invite inappropriate behavior from idiot men and boys that see a female dressed in a revealing way and believe she is then fair game for however badly they want to treat her - yes, men and boys still believe that 'she was asking for it' is a legitimate notion concerning how a female is dressed. It sucks that we still live in a society that treats females as non-human sexual objects by they way they dress, but it's also reality. Go out in public letting it all hang out and you WILL be treated as a 'thing' and perhaps dangerously so."

I don't think this father's message got across at all since a chubby older guy wearing Daisy Dukes in public is NOT treated the same way as a teenage girl is. People will look at Dad like he's goofy but they'll look at a teenage girl like a sexual "thing" to be treated as a non-human sexual object. And that's just what she would have thought.... Dad looks goofy dressed in Daisy Dukes, but I look hot, so it's not the same thing at all. That's exactly what I would have thought as a teenager, and had my parents not instilled in me the dangers of dressing or behaving inappropriately I would never have gotten the message he was either trying to convey or SHOULD have been trying to convey.

He's the parent here, and it's his job to explain to his daughter why dressing in revealing clothing gets the wrong kind of attention and simply not allow her to either purchase such clothing or wear it out in public. He failed twice in 1) not doing the former and 2) performing a silly stunt after he failed by trying to get across to his daughter why wearing revealing clothing is a bad idea that would not have gotten across to her anyway because she isn't going to equate Dad wearing Daisy Dukes out in public as the same thing as her wearing them out in public... and she'd be right because they AREN'T the same.

[elias7]

19. I'm guessing you are not a parent

[seabeyond]

26. I am. And worked for me for 18 yrs

[seabeyond]

25. That was my thought. When niece lived with me. My house, my rules, my ok. But then,

I equally did this with my boys and what they wore. There really is plenty out there for boys that wasn't ok. It isn't hard to say no

[Ed Suspicious]

30. Not a parent, eh? I find it's nearly always more effective to let my daughters come to the right

conclusion on their own. When it's my idea it stinks, when it's theirs they just get it. I use this method all the time to reinforce my loosely interpreted dress code. When I see my child made cutoffs that creep a little high for my comfort level, I hike up my pants to an equal height around my upper thighs and the message is clear. I don't even have to say anything anymore. Just hikem up and the daughter heads to the bedroom and makes the switch to modesty.

[riderinthestorm]

46. I also would question whether you are a parent. Teenage girls just change their clothes

as soon as they leave the house.

They can go out dressed like a nun and within 5 minutes of being out of eyesight they simply change. That is parenting 101 with a teenage girl and it applies to everything - from hairstyles to makeup and especially clothes. I had a huge laugh about "not buying" those types of clothes. Really? You never swapped clothes with your friends or cousins? Or borrowed stuff from friends or cousins? Teenage girls are MASTERS at getting those things by whatever means (and I include shoplifting).

All this dad has done is slut shamed his daughter and her clothing choices. Honestly, in my experience it makes no difference if a young woman is dressed in shorts that are daisy duke length or 3 inches longer on her leg - she's still going to get looked at. Its just a fact. Young women are going to get looked at. He's simply reinforced that now she should be ashamed of her clothing choices and to become secretive about it.

We should probably address the patriachal culture that empowers dads to think they "own" their daughters, or men who believe its okay to treat every woman as slutty regardless of how she's dressed. Your comments are verging into dangerous territory that implies that women "ask for it" when they are sexually assaulted by the way they dress. Its wrong all the way around.

[TorchTheWitch]

48. then you aren't paying attention

How do teenage girls change clothes after they leave the house when they don't OWN anything slutty to change into? Are the parents just shelling out money that she buys clothes with, they don't check what she buys and don't check what's in her room? I was never given money to go clothes shopping on my own, and frankly, all we could afford were hand-me-downs and thrift stores anyway. I was lucky enough to grow up in a time when parents acted like parents, and none of the teenage girls I was surrounded by had any urge to dress like a hooker because they also had parents that acted like parents. Teenage girls where I grew up would have been embarrassed as hell to go about in public with short-shorts or midriff tops or stilettos or any clothing that had their boobs or butt hanging out.

My parents didn't "own" me simply because they made rules that we had to stick by and taught us from a very young age about respect for ourselves and other people. We didn't even have the time to loaf around town since we actually DID stuff... music, art, sports, etc. And none of us were allowed to be out late on school nights, and never past midnight except for rare special occasions. Parents insisted on knowing who our friends were, where we were going and what we were doing. My parents were far less strict than any of my peers since we didn't actually have a curfew, but it didn't make any difference since by the time we got to be teenagers we had more important things to do, already learned that we had to get enough sleep every night, that homework and chores had to be done before anything else, and with all the other kids having curfews what the hell were we going to do anyway. There were no gangs of kids wandering around town... there were no strip malls, and the mom and pop stores closed early. Nobody even SOLD hooker clothes anywhere except in the Frederick's of Hollywood catalog because parents actually acted like parents then and not only would none of the kids be allowed to buy them none of us would have been caught dead wearing them because we were taught that you didn't need to have your tits and ass hanging out in order to be noticed and that the reality of life is that if you do dress that way you'll be noticed for all the wrong reasons.

And in NO WAY did I imply that women "ask for it" by the way they dress. I specifically said that it is a REALITY of life that women and girls that dress in slutty clothing ARE looked at as nothing more than a sexual object by both men AND women. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be noticed sexually, but our warped society equates women and girls wanting to be noticed sexually as less than entirely human - a sexual OBJECT.

[riderinthestorm]

50. Okay so you're not a parent but think you KNOW how to parent everyone else's kid

1. Clearly you didn't even read my first paragraph on how girls get these clothes.

2. Even great parents (like yours) who have done and been everything you describe, can end up with defiant kids.

3. If you grew up in an era without malls or department stores (just mom and pops), I'd just say the pre-1950s +/- was a very, very different era culturally and sociologically. And not in a good way.

[TorchTheWitch]

59. I graduated high school in the '80's

What's this pre-1950's rubbish? Believe it or not there are STILL loads of populated suburbs that have no strip malls in residential areas. Where I grew up it's STILL a half hour walk from my childhood home to the nearest strip mall, gas station, mini-mart, etc. It isn't much different in this town either, but I just happen to live right off the main artery where it's part residential and part commercial property. It's still set up the same way as my home town and every other suburb I've been in... the farther you get from the main arteries it's just huge swaths of residential properties requiring a long hike to get to any store.

Look, no one needs to be a parent to understand good parenting skills. I learned that from MY parents who learned it from THEIR parents, etc., and not a one of them was a clueless git flying by the seat of their pants until that first kid came along. How the hell do you think people learn parenting skills in the first place? By becoming a parent? Bullshit. They learned from THEIR parents, which is how good parenting skills get passed on. My sister raised her kids the same way that our parents raised us, and they came out just as good as we did not because something magical occurred when she first gave birth that earned her good parenting skills or read parenting books or took parenting classes but because she parented the same way our parents did. Just because I have none of my own kids doesn't have shit in shinola to do with what I know as good parenting because I learned that from being lucky enough to have good parents that among so many other things also taught me how to recognize that they WERE good parents and me and my siblings were the proof of that.

You're bloody damn right I stand by everything I said about this dude's poor parenting skills because from what I learned from my own parents and how I and my siblings turned out as well as all the other good parents of the good kids I grew up around he dropped the ball on establishing rules for his teenage daughter by never LETTING her wear the kind of slutty clothing she openly does and instilling in her to not even have the desire to dress like that in the first place nor hang out with other girls that do. Not me, nor my sister nor my girlfriends nor any of the girls I came across growing up ever had the DESIRE to dress like a hooker because we were brought up to understand that it wasn't necessary to get the attention of the opposite sex and that dressing that way only gets you the WRONG attention from the opposite sex as well as from other women and girls. We learned that it was disrespecting yourself to have a need to dress like a hooker to get any attention in that it broadcasts only your physical sexual self as if that's the only thing about you that's worthwhile. We knew the difference between dressing to attract in subtle classy ways rather than flamboyant trashy ways. And today's parents that can't or won't teach these things to their own daughters are doing them a horrible injustice. The time to do something about your daughter dressing like a hooker is not when they've already started doing it. Instill in them when they are young that they are worth far more than the sum or their physical parts, and it isn't necessary nor desirable to dress like a hooker to get attention.

Teaching kids how to dress appropriately and why for different places, occasions and groups is Parenting 101. This guy dropped the ball in not teaching his daughter this and botched it worse by doing a silly stunt that taught her nothing instead of explaining why dressing that way is not appropriate nor desirable for HER.

[riderinthestorm]

75. Yup. Not a parent. Good luck with that shit. nt

[Link Speed]

60. I did the same with the 'sagging' thing

I went to Goodwill and bought some Dickies that were WAY to big for me. I ley my ass-crack show and ran while holding up those stupid pants. My sons thought it was the most ridiculous thing they had ever seen.

They never wore any of that crap, ever.

[ejpoeta]

76. as a parent of 3 girls, i find that explaining things to my girls doesn't exactly

do much. As kids they don't like to be lectured. I don't see anything wrong with what her father did. Even if she thought he looked goofy, I bet she wouldn't want him to repeat it. And THAT is his goal. It's what parents do. When their telling them it's not ok to wear short shorts doesn't work parents have to get creative.

[SoCalDem]

10. Funny, and embarrassing, but not "teaching" any lesson

Attractive, young females wear skimpy clothing to catch the eyes & minds of the ones they hope to attract to them sexually. ( A dangerous thing for very young teenaged girls to do, but they do it any way.. )

Fashion (although women often dress to out-do their female rivals) is designed to imbue desirability.

She was, no doubt, embarrassed by her Dad's antics, but she will probably not stop dressing in a way that enhances her own budding sexuality.. It's natural for people her age to rebel against parental wishes and to follow fashion.

Young men flaunt their muscles & physical prowess to attract the women, and women flaunt their own attributes..

Not many are attracted to 40-something Dads in Daisy-Dukes

[Igel]

21. No, actually, it's not natural.

It's natural for kids to find some way to distinguish themselves from their parents and declare independence.

How they do this is culturally determined. We've let them determine their own forms of prestige, we've encouraged the formation of a teen culture, and while we don't like it we can't bear to fess up to having spiked the punch and then clearing all the chaperones out of the gym during the sock-hop then turning out the lights.

[Gov101]

71. That's not necessarily true

It's an identity more than an appeal to the opposite sex. What normal adults might consider pushing the limits of appropriateness, they just seem to see as bold fashion. Socially speaking if you want to fit in and have friends you can't be boring. One easy way not to at least not appear to be boring is to literally not appear to be boring.

[delrem]

11. What a stupid, embarrassing idiot.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. the "teenage daughter insisted on catting around town in short-shorts"?

Who the fuck writes this shit?

I realize these sorts of stories may have an innate appeal to the Cranford, Mentalist, "Get Off My Lawn" demographic, but this is just fucking goofy.

Besides, many of us understand that when you wear those kind of shorts, you're only hurting yourself.



And, okay, maybe the fans.

[Earth_First]

14. Who wears short shorts?

Bobby!

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Totally.

[ismnotwasm]

56. I'll up that one

[Warren DeMontague]

58. You know, I see that picture and all I can think of is, "please don't smoke that thing, John"

I mean, I was never the biggest John Wayne fan, but lung cancer is no picnic.

[ismnotwasm]

61. Yeah true that

What I observed, after having some fun with it is this; men no longer wear these fashions and "Borat" aside, a certain false "masculinity" would be called not question if he did.

And there's Ol' John, the "masculine" standard of the day--smoking his cigarette and not giving a shit.

[Warren DeMontague]

62. I wore a dress through the Castro one Halloween.

[ismnotwasm]

65. LOL

Well I think you've established your personal comfort level with any number of topics.

[Warren DeMontague]

66. Heh. I also established that I look shitty in drag.

Not as bad as Scalzi, mind you, but bad.

Still, it was the year after a bunch of hate crimes the previous Halloween, so it was done as a message of solidarity.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

24. Aw...Give "fucking goofy" a chance

[politicat]

13. Maybe this is just me being a GenXer, but my father wore shorts that short ALL THE TIME.

And yes, by ghod and by ghu, they were stupid looking and weird, but neither of those things were terribly surprising for a Boomer in the 80s and early 90s. I would have welcomed this guy's fashion statement -- he's wearing a shirt and not wearing knee-high, stripe-top tube socks. My father's off-duty look was pretty bad -- doubleknit polyester coaching shorts were not flattering. Worse when that's the majority of his clothing. (No, I NEVER asked friends to my house. Why do you ask?)

http://www.rustyzipper.com/shop.cfm?viewpartnum=259331

As for Dad and his modesty statement... If he trusted his daughter to make the right decisions for herself and believed in her ethics, morals and intelligence, her clothing would be the last thing on his list. The "Best. Dad. Ever." models confidence in his daughter, displays trust, and encourages her to be independent and think for herself.

[JoeyT]

37. Sweet Christ, the coaching shorts were awful.

My dad also wore those with the stripe-top tube socks that came to his knees when he wasn't in uniform, and it was horrifying.

I tried to find some of a guy wearing them so I could share the horror, but they seem to make them much longer and looser fitting than they used to.

[defacto7]

16. Good try Dad...

But I don't think you made the point.

I wear shorts (not that short) all the time, one gold gold earring, I never wear shoes and my kids make a new ankle bracelet for me every year which I wear it all year long. My latest anklet is rainbow colored and I'm very proud of it, though here in Utah I get a lot of looks. Among the Utah religious males I get really dirty hisses at times but I also get more smiles and hellos in general. I think people, women especially, feel more comfortable around me when I dress casual like this opposed to normal dress up clothes. It's what I do I guess.

So what's the point he's trying to make? Oh yes, daughters don't look too sexy and Dads look as sexy as possible, at least in your own mind.

[Raine1967]

28. Yes...

Especially that creepy comment: ** Modest is Hottest**

Blech. I cannot understand how the attempt to humiliate her in public would add to her self esteem or teach her about being independent in the world.

I don't think this father gets it. Especially with his response over at his wife's blog. HE thinks he did teenage daughters all over the country a favor, and that's kinda arrogant.

It is kinda funny that it was SHE not he that put this out there for all the world to see.

[stevenleser]

42. I agree. I don't think public humiliation of children and teens is a good parenting tactic

I think it is exactly as you said. harmful for self esteem.

There are ways to address every issue that don't harm the self esteem of people who are at a point in their lives when their self esteem is most at risk and will set the tone for their self esteem and confidence later in life.

[pnwmom]

17. The daughter insisted on "catting around town"? Nice. n/t

[Raine1967]

29. If by 'catting around town' they mean

Going with parents and siblings and then to a miniature golf course and then for milkshakes-- then she really must be quite a slut.



The story is already nasty enough -- they made sure to take slut shaming up one more notch I guess. She is a teenager for cryn' out loud.

[Squinch]

31. That jumped out at me too.

[Atman]

18. His first mistake was naming his daughter Myley.

[n2doc]

20. +1 n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

22. "catting around town"

[jberryhill]

32. She was an "unruly teen"

The post reads like copy for a porn movie capsule.

"Slut Taming Dads Vol. 8"

[Brickbat]

23. It's like he doesn't know how teens think.

Scott Mackintosh asked his daughter Myley to change into a longer pair of shorts one night before the family was going to dinner and to play a round of mini-golf. When the unruly teen refused, Mackintosh on a whim turned a pair of jeans into cut-offs. He sported them on the family field-trip in hopes of embarrassing his daughter and proving a point.

This guy thinks he laid out a consequence. He neither changed her behavior nor took away the treat. She still got to go out to supper and play a round of mini-golf, and then it was her choice to forgo the milkshake.

[Raine1967]

27. He didn't teach her a lesson: he slut shamed her

I personally agree with what this counter-argument to what the father did says.

http://www.xojane.com/issues/dad-slut-shames-daughter-daughter-not-impressed

This is about larger cultural problems: the insistence that dads own their daughters' bodies, the belief that young women wearing “revealing” clothing are “slutty” and somehow “asking for it,” the insistence that it's possible to prove your love by reinforcing sexist stereotypes. The belief that young women somehow owe it to society to be ashamed of their bodies.

“Modest is hottest,” Scott says of his draconian dress code and attempt at forcing Myley to comply. What he doesn't seem to get is that maybe Myley's not setting out to be hot. Maybe she's just wearing shorts because she can, or she wants to, because the weather is hot and she wants to cool down. Maybe she's dressing for herself, not other people. Maybe this is part of her personal style. We have no way of knowing.

Dudes often seem to assume that everyone around them is dressing for their personal enjoyment. Hence, Myley's decision to wear shorts must be about catching the male eye. But what if it's about things going on internally for her, things that have nothing to do with the outside world? Should she be blamed for the fact that the male gaze exploits of objectifies young women like her? Should she be required to cover up because dudes can't keep it together?

What are you telling your children when you blame them for the actions of others? Young women and girls are so often held responsible for what other people do that they tend to internalize the message that they're in charge of other people's actions, feelings, and activities. Anyone who grew up socialized as a woman, as I did, has a very hard time shaking the idea of personal responsibility for things that are totally outside our control; I cringe when people get angry around me because I'm convinced it's my fault, when I get whistled at in the street I blame myself instead of the creep doing the whistling, and so on.

Much more at the link....

[lunamagica]

45. Do you really buy this?

What he doesn't seem to get is that maybe Myley's not setting out to be hot. Maybe she's just wearing shorts because she can, or she wants to, because the weather is hot and she wants to cool down. Maybe she's dressing for herself, not other people. Maybe this is part of her personal style. We have no way of knowing.

Yeah, right

[Raine1967]

49. Yes, I do.

[lunamagica]

51. A teenage girl who likes to show skin does it because

she thinks she looks good. Shorts suffice when the weather is hot, short shorts are a totally different thing.

Besides, I'm betting her father knows her a lot more than the author of the piece you posted

[Raine1967]

52. You are proving the point of the link I posted.

But you go ahead and support slut shaming. Have a nice night.

[lunamagica]

55. I do that after I sell you some swamp land eom

[Raine1967]

63. Are you done trolling me?

[lunamagica]

64. You are the one who started with the insults. eom

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[Raine1967]

69. You need a better definition of the word insult.

Because I don't think it means what you think it means.

[lunamagica]

70. There you go again. eom

[jberryhill]

33. Controlling Asshole Slut-Shames Daughter

Story has the wrong headline.

[NuclearDem]

35. +100000

[Gravitycollapse]

67. Thank you.

[Brickbat]

34. I keep rereading this trying to figure out what the lesson is.

The best I can come up with is, "If I object to something you do, I will make myself look like an idiot."

[An_enlightened_soul]

36. The lesson is:

"You look silly in those short shorts and are embarrassing yourself and your family when you wear them out. To show you how this feels, I'm going to wear similar shorts out to embarrass you."

That's the lesson, not that I agree with it.

[Recursion]

77. "I am as embarrassed by you wearing short shorts as you are by me doing the same thing" (nt)

[Brickbat]

80. Seems there's another lesson here...it's possible to ignore something you don't like and enjoy

a night out anyway. He could take a page out of her book.

[jmowreader]

38. I think Myley should have taught him a lesson

It wouldn't take much effort to turn a bedsheet into a field-expedient burka...just whip out the Mormon Underwear and ta-da!

Mr. Scott Mackintosh is going to wind up just like my mother. My mom invented slut-shaming and helicopter parenting, and as a result none of her female descendants will speak to her. I foresee a similar fate for ol' Scott there...when the hell did going out with your parents get elevated to "catting around town," which is a printable way of saying "cruising for sex"? Does this girl even get to go swimming, and if so does she have to shop for beachwear in the Riyadh Gurl catalog?

[babydollhead]

39. my daught was thirteen with a womans body

I saw her slinking home from the pool. bikini bathing suit top, towel wrapped low at her hips. So I asked her, "do you want men to look at you and want to have sex with you?" "ewww, no." she answered. "Well that's what happens when you slink around dressed like that." I wanted her to understand.
Never mind the cleavage and the short short now at 20. oh to be twenty!

[pnwmom]

41. Do you think it's any different in a one-piece? Dream on.

It doesn't matter what a young girl like that would wear to go swimming -- she'd get the same looks.

The only alternative is to not go swimming at all. You're the one who doesn't understand.

[gollygee]

79. Slink around?

What is that? Like, walking?

[jberryhill]

81. She goes down stairs, alone or in pairs

[Vashta Nerada]

40. "Catting around town" and "modest is hottest"...

That dad is a douche.

[riderinthestorm]

47. Many others have said the same thing and I agree. Disgusting rhetoric by Dad

but picked yours out to say welcome to DU!

[alphafemale]

43. no one wants to see man thighs....

gag

the shortie short man shorts of the 70's were an abomination.

[CJCRANE]

44. Well, that's point isn't it...

Some people think it's cool to wear skintight or revealing clothing...and other people think it's tasteless.

They both have a right to wear what they want...
...and everyone else has a right to have an opinion about it.

[Quantess]

53. I think it's funny.

Why are people getting mad over this? What a goof.

[Tikki]

54. My Mister...who is the perfect compact model...wears shorter cut-offs. Not quite as short...

as the gentleman above...but about a 4 1/2" inseam and he looks grand...



Tikki

[nomorenomore08]

57. Yawn...

But K&R just for amusement purposes...

[Gravitycollapse]

68. This is slut shaming garbage.

[Warren DeMontague]

72. Dad who wears "Best Dad Ever" shirt.... that he gave himself

he's like, the best looking man in the world!

[alp227]

73. RAPE CULTURE, anyone?

C'mon, daddy, why don't you just say what you really want to say: "It's your own damn fault if a man sees you in these short shorts and molests you!"

[gollygee]

78. "Catting around" ??

I hope he never talked like that to his daughter. That's horrible to label her in that way. What a jerk.