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Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:09 AM

A country run by corporations and churches is not a country of the people,

by the people, for the people.

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Reply A country run by corporations and churches is not a country of the people, (Original post)
mmonk Mar 2012 OP
Le Taz Hot Mar 2012 #1
mmonk Mar 2012 #4
lunatica Mar 2012 #2
mmonk Mar 2012 #3
Selatius Mar 2012 #5
mmonk Mar 2012 #6
fasttense Mar 2012 #7
libtodeath Mar 2012 #8

Response to mmonk (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:11 AM

1. The first is fascism,

the second a theocracy -- a far cry from the Democratic Republic we're supposed to have but THANKS TO BOTH PARTIES who court both almost exclusively, that's what we've ended up with.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:43 AM

4. Yep.

But unfortunately, the propagandized call it freedom. Freedom in chains I suppose.

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Response to mmonk (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:13 AM

2. Evidently neither is this one in spite of using that phrase ad infinitum

We've been living in a made up world that says we're the World's Greatest (fill in the blank here) in history.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:18 AM

3. The delusion of self grandeur. It closes the eye and mind.

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Response to mmonk (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:52 AM

5. It is if you accept the argument that corporate persons are granted protection by the Bill of Rights

But, none of the Founders bought that argument. It was one of the reasons for the Revolution. There were plenty of reasons for rebelling against the English Crown. One of the aggravating reasons was that Parliament granted the British East India Company a monopoly on the sale of tea to the Thirteen Colonies. They were free to gouge Americans at their leisure, and this was made possible after much lobbying by representatives of the East India Company of British Parliament and the royal family.

In fact, because of the distrust of corporations built up under English rule, the first century of the Republic saw very stringent controls on what a corporation could and couldn't do, including the length of time a corporation could remain in existence and the terms that a corporation is to be disbanded. The corporation that was chartered to build the Eerie Canal was disbanded after the canal was built, for instance. Under American law at the time, corporations were creatures of the legislature that established them and were subject to legislative action. It wasn't until after the American Civil War that captains of industry started pressing their advantage to loosen restriction, after having witnessed that their production might helped win the Civil War.

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Response to Selatius (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 07:58 AM

6. You got it.

All corporate charters had a shelf life back then.

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Response to Selatius (Reply #5)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:06 AM

7. Well said. n/t

 

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Response to mmonk (Original post)

Thu Mar 1, 2012, 08:32 AM

8. The founders

would recoil in horror if they were alive.

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