Can anybody explain to me the outrage...

[Bigmack]

... from the RW about Obamacare.

I have - foolishly - tried to answer FB posts and newspaper LTTE comments about Obamacare.

They use words like "freedom" and "socialized medicine"... so I know they are idiots.

But... what are the reasonably sane opponents of Obamacare saying is the problem? Lower premiums? Coverage for kids..?

I don't get it.

For the record, I'm a single-payer fan, and I'm on Medicare, so I don't personally have a dog in this fight... except that I want health care for Americans.

[Link Speed]

1. "reaonably sane"?

That ship has sailed, Bigmack.

[gopiscrap]

2. RW is deathly afraid that Obmacare will catch on and make the

Democrats extremely popular.

[truebluegreen]

16. ^^^This^^^

The GOP is desperate to prevent the realization that government CAN make peoples' lives better.

Don't forget for people born after the mid-80s or so, Preznit Bush is the only Republican president they remember, and that is Not Good from the point of view of his party. If the Democrats score a major victory for ordinary people (even with, alas, all the ACA's flaws), and especially in the face of united, demented Republican opposition, it will be a major blow.

They know this. After all, as the esteemed Dr. Krugman has pointed out, if the ACA was as big a disaster as they claim they would let it be implemented--and then watch it implode.

[gopiscrap]

17. much better said than I, thank you!

[JaneyVee]

3. They're pro-life, so naturally they want people dead.

[NYC_SKP]

4. First, most of their objections are outright lies- ie you'll lose your choice of doctor...

and that quality of care will decrease, another lie, and that we have the best care in the world, another lie.

So in the end there is no way to argue with liars.

But hopefully someone will come along with some good talking points you use.

Here's what I found:

[Bigmack]

5. Stole this one... thanks. nt

[NYC_SKP]

7. The Other 98. I think you'll like their Facebook feed.

Maybe 'share' it with your FB 'friends'....

https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98

[safeinOhio]

6. My argument is simple.

It's RomneyCare.

[Bluenorthwest]

8. It gives them something to talk about while their boat slowly sinks.

ACA is by nature a bit complicated so that gives them a lot of room to do that confuse and confound thing and avoid getting any specific questions from their ever more ironically named base.

[Skittles]

9. they are people who see nothing wrong with healthcare in America now

they have zero credibility

[Mr.Bill]

10. They are scared shitless of how well it might work

since every single one of them voted against it. Their only hope is to lie to the people, spread disinformation and panic and failing everything else, sabotage it. They will get their due in time.

[LWolf]

11. I'm reasonably sane,

and I can tell you that you answered your own question for reasonably sane people on the left.

Private, for-profit insurance is the foundation of the ACA. It's the wrong foundation if we ever hope to get a universal not-for-profit national health CARE system.

I, too, want health care for everyone, and if the ACA helps some get that, I'm all for it. I'm not for, though, pretending like it's helping everybody. It's not.

[DJ13]

12. Maybe they're jealous?

Obama stole an old conservative idea and made it his own?

[JHB]

13. Any gov't program that works and is seen to work undermines anti-"big government" ideology

It's tough to paint the government as a "parasite" when people have an obvious example of government programs improving their lives (especially new ones, not ones passed so long ago that a lot of people don't even think of them as "government programs&quot .

When people see government actions improving their lives, they're a lot more likely to support taxation to pay for it. Your Facebook correspondents might not have any higher motive than lefty-hate, but higher up the scale that's what it's about.
A working government providing useful services pulls the rug out from under "the nine scariest words in the English language are 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' "

[MrsKirkley]

14. This is what I don't understand.

Republicans don't like being forced to buy health insurance. Republicans are against the "big federal government" managing health care. Republicans are all about power to the states. Yet when I bring up the idea of the federal government giving states the money, but the states completely managing a public option or single-payer, they're against that too. I guess they're all about power to the states except for health care?

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Uh, because Obama might do something people like, because they don't understand how Health Insurance

works, and because they're low information voters.

[Vanje]

18. An old fellow I know listens to a lot of talk radio

He thinks that Obamacare means they are going to take away or fuck with his Medicare.
He heard it on the radio.