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dkf

(37,305 posts)
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:05 PM Sep 2013

Suspected U.S. shooter had 'secret' clearance, employer says

Reuters – 54 minutes ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Aaron Alexis, the 34-year-old suspect in Monday's shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard, had "secret" clearance and was assigned to start working there as a civilian contractor with a military-issued ID card, his firm's chief executive told Reuters.

"He did have a secret clearance. And he did have a CAC (common access card)," said Thomas Hoshko, CEO of The Experts Inc, which was helping service the Navy Marine Corps Intranet as a subcontractor for HP Enterprise Services, part of Hewlett-Packard Co.


"We had just recently re-hired him. Another background investigation was re-run and cleared through the defense security service in July 2013," Hoshko said.
Hoshko said he believed that Alexis' "secret" security clearance dated back to 2007.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-had-secret-clearance-employer-says-010927653.html

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Suspected U.S. shooter had 'secret' clearance, employer says (Original Post) dkf Sep 2013 OP
"as a subcontractor"... that says it all n/t arcane1 Sep 2013 #1
"cleared through the defense security service" dkf Sep 2013 #2
No. Llewlladdwr Sep 2013 #4
What does it say, exactly? Llewlladdwr Sep 2013 #3
That's a total fuck up gopiscrap Sep 2013 #5
A LOT of people have a SECRET clearance TroglodyteScholar Sep 2013 #6
Exactly. "Secret" is a pretty low clearance level. ManiacJoe Sep 2013 #7
"Secret" doesn't really do much Recursion Sep 2013 #8
Doesn't really matter. Llewlladdwr Sep 2013 #9
I thought he used somebody else's ID? Skip Intro Sep 2013 #10
Even if he used another ID for access - he was still in JPASS HipChick Sep 2013 #11
I dont' get it. Skip Intro Sep 2013 #13
SECRET is the bottom rung of clearances mwrguy Sep 2013 #12
CONFIDENTIAL is the bottom rung. Llewlladdwr Sep 2013 #15
I stand corrected mwrguy Sep 2013 #16
And, yet... MrMickeysMom Sep 2013 #14
Re-hired? Barack_America Sep 2013 #17
 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
2. "cleared through the defense security service"
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:11 PM
Sep 2013

Are there different processes for subs?

Llewlladdwr

(2,175 posts)
4. No.
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:14 PM
Sep 2013

All requests for a security clearance from private industry go through DSS. Every company, whether a primary or sub contractor, has to have a Field Security Officer that works directly with the Defense Information Systems Contracting Office on clearances and other security issues.

Llewlladdwr

(2,175 posts)
3. What does it say, exactly?
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:11 PM
Sep 2013

I've been a sub-contractor on a government contract before. How is that evil?

TroglodyteScholar

(5,477 posts)
6. A LOT of people have a SECRET clearance
Mon Sep 16, 2013, 11:53 PM
Sep 2013

And everyone accessing a base--civilian, military, contractor, whatever--will have a CAC. If you've been issued a CAC, you're basically assumed not to be a threat...although you are still subject to the random stops and searches (which I never experienced in several years working on an AFB post-9/11)...

Llewlladdwr

(2,175 posts)
9. Doesn't really matter.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:05 AM
Sep 2013

Either way you get access to the same things (info, networks, etc.), at least in my organization.

HipChick

(25,612 posts)
11. Even if he used another ID for access - he was still in JPASS
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:09 AM
Sep 2013

with a security clearance, low -level one even..

Skip Intro

(19,768 posts)
13. I dont' get it.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:13 AM
Sep 2013

Did he have a pass in his name that would let him get to where he evidently wanted to get?

If so, why did he use someone else's ID/Pass?

What am I missing?

Llewlladdwr

(2,175 posts)
15. CONFIDENTIAL is the bottom rung.
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:16 AM
Sep 2013

Maybe FOUO (For Official Use Only) if you want to be technical. Although it's not counted as an actual classification level there are still handling requirements when dealing with it. Then there's PII (Personally Identifiable Information) which is a whole 'nother kettle of fish.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
14. And, yet...
Tue Sep 17, 2013, 12:14 AM
Sep 2013

This guy in a previous episode of his life, decides after staring at his next door neighbor's construction activity for hours without saying a word, to pull his gun out and shoot the tires off one of the cars parked outside.

The locals couldn't find his gun to prosecute him for weeks. He lived with his aunt or mother or something.

We don't have a gun law problem or have to do any back-checks on these mercenaries, now do we?

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