Have you gotten tired of the whole gun issue altogether?

[quinnox]

I sure have.

[Cali_Democrat]

1. In what way are you tired of it?

Don't you think we need to discuss gun violence and try to prevent criminals from acquiring these deadly weapons?

You may be tired of the issue, but people are dying by the thousands in America because of guns.

It's worth discussing.

[quinnox]

3. It seems to dominate DU every time it comes up, and it comes up a lot, because of all these shooting

incidents. I'm just tired of seeing so many threads about it at this point. I have come to see the wisdom of banning all gun talk to places like the gungeon. It not a matter of being pro or con, (I'm a gun control person) but just damn tired of the whole topic.

I would rather see Israel/Palestine allowed in general discussion, because even though it would come to dominate the forum, just like guns, I find that topic much more interesting.

[Bay Boy]

6. Here's what to do:

If you see the word 'gun' in the title, don't read it. If you start to read a thread and you see it's a discussion about guns close the thread and go to another one. Also don't start threads about guns if you are tired of discussing them.

[quinnox]

9. At this point, I'm seriously thinking of banning the word "gun" from my thread views

That could work pretty well. Some threads will still slip through, but it would cut down on them quite a bit.

[Tarheel_Dem]

4. "Progressives" just aren't what they used to be, huh?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

2. I'm tired of hearing about horrific gun violence, because it's horrific and heartbreaking.

But the solution for that's not sticking my head in the sand or declaring it a non-issue.

If it's there, it needs to be addressed.

And it is most definitely there.

[KG]

5. I've gotten tired of hearing how guns aren't the problem when people get shot.

[Aerows]

13. +1

That's my number one issue right there. Hunters aren't the problem, and people that want to defend their homes and possessions aren't the problem. People that want to run around armed 24/7/365, own a plethora of firearms and think it is their God-given right to shoot people - they are the problem.

It's the mentality that guns = rights.

[Kolesar]

7. It knocks the libertarian propaganda off the DU home page

"Not tired of it"

[leftstreet]

10. What 'libertarian propaganda?'

[Tarheel_Dem]

21. +1

[HappyMe]

8. No.

It's a serious problem/issue.

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

11. No but...

...I think it's more respectful to not do so at this time.

[bluedigger]

12. I'm just tired of the predictable responses.

The issue remains important.

[badtoworse]

14. +1 There is precious little posted about the subject that is new in any way

[quinnox]

17. Yep, there is only so much you can talk about when it comes to this guns topic, it has become canned

responses at this point.

[HappyMe]

18. It gets that way with most issues.

The same points get made over and over.

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. I am done with the NRA talking points that predictably come up

Guns are not the problem.

Video games are... fuck yeah.

Guns don't kill people, people kill people, fuck yeah.

Background checks are the problem, why we never ever should try it, fuck yeah.

There is no epidemic of gun violence, fuck yeah.

I could go on.

[quinnox]

16. I hear ya

And thanks for the video in the other thread you posted. I got a kick out of it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. The movie is a kick all on one shot

It s not a jingoistic piece of crap, it is truly a caricature of what we believe. (Well, not you and me, but)

[Waiting For Everyman]

20. Yes! A thousand times yes.

1) We have a completely abusive and dysfunctional society which has no safety net and pushes people to the breaking point; that includes schools which teach kids to bully people;

2) We do not have mental health help available to anyone who needs it, or even medical help for that matter;

3) We have made a fad out of guns, and we are swamped with them;

4) We have no ethics or morality left, because our philosophy is anything goes, whatever you can get away with is fine;

5) Our laws and courts are a sick joke, and that's fine with most people;

6) All our conversation is critiquing about shades of dissing that we perceive to have happened, which does nothing but create fictional hyper-entitlement in peoples' heads;

7) The workplace is a daily exercise in being screwed over for real.


This is not going to stop. It is a feature of the society as a whole that we have created according to what we like. We don't want to change what we like or how we treat people, we just want to get rid of certain outcomes from it, but that is cause and effect and will not change, any more than gravity can be repealed because we'd like it so.

Shooters result from the society we have chosen, insisted on, and built. Not just the gun laws, all of it. I'm for some reasonable gun laws, but they won't change this.

We have reached the point which is similar to the "too many rats in a cage" syndrome.

(That's what I think, and that's why I don't participate in the gun threads.)

Legislating guns away won't do very much; you have to change the reasons why people want guns or feel they need them. When those reasons change, the gun problem will improve.