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WASHINGTON The former Navy reservist who killed 12 people in a shooting rampage at the Washington Navy Yard on Monday had exhibited signs of mental illness dating back more than a decade, including a recent episode in which he complained about hearing voices and of people sending vibrations to his body to prevent him from sleeping, law enforcement officials said.
Only a month ago, the gunman, Aaron Alexis, 34, was suffering from hallucinations so severe that he called the Newport Police Department in Rhode Island where he told officers he was on business.
When officers came to his hotel room on Aug. 7 at 6 a.m., Mr. Alexis told them that he had gotten into an argument with someone at an airport in Virginia. He said the person he had argued with had sent three people to follow him and to keep him awake by talking to him and sending vibrations to his body via a microwave machine, according to a police report.
More:http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/18/us/washington-navy-yard-shootings.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Another arrest in Atlanta in 2008.....
Washington (CNN) -- In the early morning hours of August 10, 2008, Aaron Alexis -- now known as the Washington Navy Yard shooter -- was arrested for disorderly conduct in metro Atlanta. The then-Navy reservist was kicked out of a club for damaging the furnishings and left the place releasing an unrelenting string of profanities even as police officers told him to stop.
He kept cussing and he was taken in, according to a police report.
An angry overreaction, maybe, but one that his military superiors noticed.
Was this just one side of an isolated incident? Or was it a warning sign of someone suffering from trauma dating back to the 9/11 attacks? It was this confrontation along with another arrest in Texas that prompted the Navy to begin proceedings to separate him from the military.
By the time the Navy began to seek a "general discharge" for Alexis, he had eight instances of misconduct on his record, including insubordination, disorderly conduct, unauthorized absences from work, and at least one instance of drunkenness. But in the end, he left the service with an honorable discharge because he had never been convicted and there was a lack of evidence to merit a general discharge, a U.S. defense official said.
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/navy-yard-suspect/?hpt=ju_t2
Gunman at Navy Yard told police in RI last month he heard voices in hotel; Navy was alerted
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/gunman-at-navy-yard-told-police-in-rhode-island-last-month-he-heard-voices-in-hotel-room/2013/09/17/f7248084-1fd0-11e3-9ad0-96244100e647_story.html
snooper2
(30,151 posts)How hard is that to comprehend?
But they will put us on a list! stereotype people! Ex wife gets me on list and me gun get taken away ma!
Warpy
(114,615 posts)indicating domestic violence, stalking, and threats. Then again, a lot of men think doing that shit is a gawd given right so it might be a widespread problem.
There was a great paper trail on this guy not covered by HIPAA. A background check should have disqualified him, if the seller even bothered. The AFT has been gutted beyond any pretense of regulating gun shops and we all know the gun show loophole is big enough to drive a moving van through.
We have few ways of tracking this stuff. We the people have been rendered powerless by the NRA.
hack89
(39,181 posts)that was one of the changes following the Va Tech shooting.
I think because he moved around so much he fell between the cracks.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)not have been able to buy a gun.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)Do we really think a person with these problems is fine if he can't legally buy a gun?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)He obviously wasn't getting proper care. That still doesn't change the fact that because of the severity of his illness, he shouldn't have been able to buy a gun.
dkf
(37,305 posts)He could have brought a knife and grabbed the guns too.
Don't underestimate a paranoid person who is in fear of their life. He probably saw this as some sort of life and death struggle.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)buy that shotgun given how ill he was.
It is a damn shame that the guy wasn't getting proper treatment. Or if he was getting treatment, maybe he wasn't taking his medication.
He specifically bought a gun because he wanted to kill people. Not a knife, a gun.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)dkf
(37,305 posts)The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)It is because it is easier for a person to kill people with a gun than with just about any other implement humans have yet contrived for the purpose....
dkf
(37,305 posts)The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Because it is not an argument, it is a tired old noise.
A man with a gun presents a much greater potential danger and likelihood of giving lethal effect to anger or mental disturbance than does a man without a gun.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)FarCenter
(19,429 posts)If you are in his command, do you risk a potentially dangerous confrontation over a less than honorable discharge or give him an honorable discharge to get rid of him?
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)The Navy.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)And the Navy is a big organization. So the background check would probably only find the honorable discharge and not the whole record of service.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)Just think the navy blew it with with the dishonorable discharge. Not to mention the information from the RI police dept.
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)They are investigating why and how now.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)Or is that another incorrect media factoid?
A badge of someone on administrative leave should be deactivated and essentially useless. Unless someone was careless...