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Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:41 PM

I'd like to hear other people's opinion about why the teabaggers continue to try and defund

Obamacare.

Me, I think it is that they are terrified at the thought of another Democratic law becoming really successful and
them - once again - looking like idiots.

Or maybe they are all stoned and can't remember that they did it already, 40 times.

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Reply I'd like to hear other people's opinion about why the teabaggers continue to try and defund (Original post)
Maraya1969 Sep 2013 OP
blue neen Sep 2013 #1
Agnosticsherbet Sep 2013 #2
tularetom Sep 2013 #3
TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #4
leftyohiolib Sep 2013 #5
The Straight Story Sep 2013 #6
jberryhill Sep 2013 #7
Puzzledtraveller Sep 2013 #8
Ron Green Sep 2013 #14
Maraya1969 Sep 2013 #15
riderinthestorm Sep 2013 #16
Gman Sep 2013 #9
pnwmom Sep 2013 #10
Demo_Chris Sep 2013 #11
JustAnotherGen Sep 2013 #12
bowens43 Sep 2013 #13
crazylikafox Sep 2013 #17

Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:42 PM

1. They've got nothing else.

When all else fails, stall.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:44 PM

2. They have a case of Ignorant Fuck Racism, and see Defunding Obamacare as the

cause that will get them back to power, if they can just reduce the number of voters to only like minded idiots.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:44 PM

3. Of course, they're scared shitless it will work and Obama will get credit for it

They've forgotten the definition of insanity - trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:44 PM

4. I suspect they've forgotten the initial objective and...

are now just running on automatic.

It's a good meme for fundraising and getting people to meetings, and they'll use it until they find another one.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:46 PM

5. b/c teatards cant think for themselves , the gop says it's bad and therefore it's bad

 

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:46 PM

6. I see it like this:

If the ACA kicks in now and people are used to it, and like it, they won't be able to run on that next year. People will see that they are trying to get rid of something that they have gotten used to.

They are currently trying to delay it for a year and tying it to the debt limit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023688885

If they do, they will whip up fear right before the mid terms. If they cannot delay it then by the time the midterms hit....well the message they want to send will only bring out more voters who want to keep it.

Pure politics and working for the next election and not about the people at all.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:46 PM

7. They don't know

 


At this point it is ritualistic, symbolic behavior, verging on a compulsion.

You might as well ask people why we paint eggs at Easter. Yeah, sure, there is a reason for it somewhere, but it's something that people just do.

They can't help themselves.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:47 PM

8. Because the law sucks

and I'm a medicaid caseworker.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:26 PM

14. Wrong. People are working toward single-payer because the law sucks.

People are seeking to defund it because THEY suck.

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Response to Puzzledtraveller (Reply #8)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 08:47 PM

15. Really? Please give us all some examples of how it sucks.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #15)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:16 PM

16. I think it sucks because it mandates the insurance companies as gatekeepers

 

to healthcare, for the foreseeable future. While I believe we can, and MAY, get to single payer, I think the ACA only forestalls that end result.

Be that as it may, I also believe this was an inevitable first step and am behind Obamacare. Its hopefully going to get more people some care and that's always good.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:48 PM

9. At this point it's mindless ideological purity

They lies and distortion are all hard truth in their alternate reality. And we in the real world are the deluded ones. There is no bridge to them. They dynamited it long ago now.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:49 PM

10. Because their real goal is to dismantle the "Great Society" -- including Medicare

and the rest of what they and their libertarian buddies call the "nanny state" -- not to shore it up.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:51 PM

11. Ignorance for the most part...

 

Many of them exist in a talk radio and Fox news bubble. For these people the world is binary. They are going to oppose anything we say or do, while defending their own with a fiery passion. Seriously, do you REALLY think they don't realize Palin is an imbecile? In any case, don't feel too superior, we tend to do the same.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 12:54 PM

12. Because it's a good start

Social Security didn't start out perfectly.
Childhood Labor Laws, public education, etc. etc. - didn't start out perfectly.

They know they 'owe us one' since the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich became permanent.

Every day that the ACA stands - is another day towards it become Permanent - and more important - PERFECTED (single payer possibly?).

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 01:00 PM

13. Obama isn't white

 

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:25 PM

17. Rachael just said that they're using it for fundraising...

She just did a segment about it on her show tonight.

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