Chelsea Clinton- my first exposure to the grown woman

[Mira]

She's on with Jon Stewart, and overwhelmingly I am thinking I'm looking at Hillary. She has the features of her Mom's face, and there's a bit of Bill as well. But the way she uses her eyes is an exact replica of her Mom.
That eye sparkling thing they do is not something I'm fond of watching, so I was not happy she has adopted that for herself.
Oh, well. It's such a treat to see a grown Democratically raised child of substance and breeding, one who was also fortunate to have had the best possible education.

She is of course smart, articulate, brilliant. That first smart does not include her appearance.
The dress is one where I wish the money spent on it had gone elsewhere to feed some poor children, it was way too much of a not so good thing. Had she fed those children there would have been plenty money left to put her into a less ridiculous looking simple dress.

I had fun seeing her and listening to her. After all, I've "known" her since she was about 12.

[Renew Deal]

1. I cannot believe that you exposed yourself to Chelsea Clinton

She must have been surprised to say the least

[Mira]

3. It's at times like this

I hide behind, and remind folks, that English is actually my second language.
So damn handy!

[Renew Deal]

7. lol

I was very impressed with her as well, and in typical Clintonian style she didn't rule out public service in the future.

[Rhiannon12866]

2. I watched her, too, and was very impressed

She really has grown into a confident, well spoken young woman.

[Cleita]

4. That dress was not flattering.

But she should be able to dress well considering she was out in public.

[Renew Deal]

9. Misogyny

[Retrograde]

12. This woman thought the dress would be more appropriate for a cut-rate superhero

Maybe someone who's archnemeses were the Fashion Police. It was eye-scaldingly ugly.

She sounds like an articulate young person, but for someone raised in the public eye she seems to have skipped the lesson on first impressions.

[polichick]

19. What? If you don't like a woman's dress, it's misogyny?

[MannyGoldstein]

5. I saw her in NYC a few years ago, putting money in a parking meter.

Big BMW.

[trublu992]

6. Sorry not impressed

Thought she was very rehearsed and completely unoriginal. I know they are going to try to run her for office but I'm not so sure she'll have that on lock. The generation she needs for votes (my generation) most of us aren't so impressed I know New York has better.

[Renew Deal]

8. Who are "they"?

Just want to know who you consider the "they" are that will "run her"

[trublu992]

35. the Clinton machine aka her family

[Renew Deal]

36. Thanks

[Electric Monk]

10. I notice she hasn't hyphenated her last name. Is she embarrased by her father in law?

She should be http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/mezvinsky.asp

[JI7]

14. more likely that she is proud of her own name

[cui bono]

30. Why should she hyphenate her name? Why if she doesn't do you assume there has to be a reason?

That is outdated thinking that a woman is supposed to take her husband's name in some way.

[Initech]

11. She must have gone to the same school of health my brother did.

[JI7]

13. "feeding poor children"

why is this like always used when people don't like when someone uses their own money to spend on something personal ?

[Mira]

16. Good question

the answer I think lies in that banal and hackneyed phrases just come to mind, so we use them.
It's not that she spent her own money on something personal that I was tongue in cheek critical of. Naturally that is not a concern of mine. I was being catty about her having spent what looked like a possibly huge sum on a dress that was unbecoming and over the top. Some of that money could have well been spent in other ways. IMO. And it's none of my business, I was just running my mouth.

What I like about Oprah, a woman of substance and a billionaire, is that she spends tremendous amounts of money on the education (feeding in another way) of girls in South Africa in the school she founded and funds.
I also like that she looked at a purse for herself in a swank store in Switzerland that had a price tag of 38 000 somethings. Euros maybe.

I like that she understands a healthy balance, on a scale I cannot grasp but don't have to.

These aren't and weren't meant as value judgments. Just flowing with what's in front of me, and having opinions. I try to stay lightened up, otherwise it's all so damn hard, isn't it.

[longship]

15. What does it say that you brought up how she dresses?

No further comment.

[Mira]

18. Lighten up

it's what you notice when you are visually oriented and not too bright like myself.

I take it you were not watching. Or the question had not come up.

[longship]

21. Appearance is the least quality that I look for in a person.

How they dress rates below that.

I will leave this issue there.

[Mira]

29. I understand you fully.

And I agree with you on many levels, especially the one that may say that the subject is unworthy and irrelevant.

Yet
when a person of importance comes across your radar and all you see is a visual of clothing weird and loud enough to drown out that there is a person in there you want to look at, then something has gone awry.

That's what happened here.
And it does have a voice.

[longship]

33. I don't give a fuck what people look like.

Okay! I confess that a mullet hair cut turns me off. And tattoos all over ones face does the same. Some cultural affectations deserve to be maligned.

But mostly I am tolerant of people's individual taste. This is in spite of the fact that I basically hate Rap, or anything like it. I love opera, and impressionist paintings. I even like Alban Berg opera, but not every day.

I cannot remember who said it, but I've never heard it said better.

Your taste is in your mouth.

The lesson is that nobody's taste is the same as any other's. There's a lot of art which I do not especially like, which I recognize as worthy of the label great. There's a lot of popular culture which is just total rubbish by any measure.

But then again, my taste is within my mouth.

[polichick]

17. What's "that eye sparkling thing?"

[Mira]

24. Have you ever noticed how Hillary's eyes raise

in a way that leave the pupils flowing low, the whites of the eyes surround the top of the pupil, and the intent of the exercise is to indicate real focusing in on who she is talking to? And it gives a sparkle to the target she is talking to, albeit short lived, that makes them feel very singled out in a special way.
Hillary uses it when she is in a crowd chosing important folks and additionally pointing a finger at them to elevate they have been recognized.
That's what I noticed Chelsea also does just when she was talking to Jon Stewart, the interviewer.

That's all.
I'm being shallow
Not much that is visual escapes me. And I commented on it.

[polichick]

25. Thanks! I don't think that's being shallow - I'll look for it...

Somehow I've never noticed it with either of them.

[cui bono]

31. Probably because they're not talking to you.

[LittleBlue]

20. People only care because of her father

Blatant nepotism. She will coast right into a safe congressional/senate seat like her mother, interviews like this are just the prep work.

[Beacool]

23. Hillary worked her backside off for her Senate seat.

She campaigned in every single county in NY, returning to them more than once. She didn't coast to anything.

[LittleBlue]

26. She moved there like one year before the election

She's the ultimate carpetbagger. Grew up in Illinois, lived in Arkansas and DC, then moves to NY because Moynihan retired sensing a senate seat she could win.

The Clintons should ride off into the sunset and let someone self-made run. The Clintons are political mercenaries. Guaranteed if a winnable senate seat appears in Connecticut or Massachusetts, Chelsea will follow the script.

[JI7]

27. she lived in Arkansas and DC because she was married to someone who had a job in those locations

[LittleBlue]

28. Yeah, I'm saying she had little connection to the state

before deciding to buy a house there so she could run for a winnable senate seat.

[Retrograde]

34. But she made up for it by spending time in counties that hadn't seen a senator before

As another poster pointed out, she worked her ass off campaigning - and didn't stop once she was elected: she spent more time in Western NY in her first term than her predecessor did in four. The woman doesn't know how to slow down!

[Beacool]

32. So did Robert Kennedy.

The Clintons are not riding off anywhere. Too bad for you.

[Beacool]

22. The Clinton Foundation helps plenty of people around the world.

Chelsea can wear whatever she chooses to wear. I have no clue what she wore as I didn't watch the show, but I'm sure that what she wore is irrelevant to what she had to say. Also, what's with the "sparkly eye" comment? What is that supposed to mean?

[madokie]

37. I like Chelsea

To me I see more Bill than I do Hill but thats just me

[question everything]

38. She certainly is more articulate than Caroline Kennedy

I just looked at an old TIME magazine with a story about political dynasties: Bush, Clinton, Gore, Paul, Romney, Cuomo and now Cheney. And one observation was that it is easy for a child of a politician to enter politics since they are used to visit state fairs, march in parades, shake hands of constituents, etc.

So I was reminded of this when Chelsea said how, at the age of six, she helped her dad prepare for a debate by playing his opponent.

[Cerridwen]

39. "substance and breeding"

How were her teeth? Good conformation? Toed-in or out? Cow hocked? Short backed? Long backed? Good feet?

History of genetic abnormalities like hip dysplasia? Will she breed well? At all?

[Bluenorthwest]

40. Chelsea is super smart and very wonky

I attended an event she was at and I can't remember what she wore but I do remember than she's got a hell of a memory and that she was very unaffected by famous for most of my life standards.

[Warren DeMontague]

41. I've always been impressed with Chelsea Clinton.

I like both her parents, too.