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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:17 AM Sep 2013

"It's easier to make it inside than outside"

I helped keep a man from going back to prison today and that's his comment that made the most impression on me.

I'm kind of buddies with the manager of one of our local thrift stores, I help him with his fairly frequent computer problems at the store and sometimes he cuts me a bit of a deal or holds stuff for me that he thinks I might be interested in. So I was working on his computer today when I got in a conversation with a guy that was looking over my shoulder and made some fairly intelligent remarks about what I was doing and mentioned that he was looking for that sort of work himself.

One thing led to another and pretty soon it became clear Chris was really in dire straits financially and had no one at all to help him. He had been living with a elderly friend who had passed away and now he's in a fleabag motel room right next to the thrift store @$150/week. His most pressing problem was he had a court mandated counseling session twenty five miles away this afternoon that if he missed it they already told him his probation was going to be revoked and it was back to prison. Chris is a little man, 135 lbs or so, short and slight, early forties but looks fiftysomething, well spoken and obviously intelligent but also fairly obviously with some sort of head problem it's beyond my pay grade to diagnose.

For my computer work my manager buddy gave me a old donated desktop he had in the store and I told my new acquaintance that if he fixed it up for me I would take him to his counseling session and also give him an old bicycle I have laying around so he could at least ride that instead of walking everywhere. I could have done the computer work myself but I sort of liked Chris and wanted to help him without it feeling like a complete handout, he's more knowledgeable than I am about certain aspects of computers so it wasn't entirely silly me letting him work on my latest acquisition. I actually ended up giving him the bicycle plus a large aluminum framed hiking backpack I had picked up at a yard sale somewhere so he could go shopping on the bike.

There are so many people out there in really horrible situations, Chris told me he was right on the verge of calling his probation officer and just telling them to come get him, it's actually easier to survive in prison than it is out on the streets for more people than most of us would credit. I'm not sure what that says about our society but I don't think it's anything good.

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"It's easier to make it inside than outside" (Original Post) Fumesucker Sep 2013 OP
For some, the security of 3 hots and a cot... TreasonousBastard Sep 2013 #1
thanks for helping him. ex-prisoners have it really hard. there are programs in la that help with th Liberal_in_LA Sep 2013 #2
This serves as a reminder No Vested Interest Sep 2013 #3
I'm having trouble responding, other than to acknowledge (what a weasel word) that SheilaT Sep 2013 #4
k&r avaistheone1 Sep 2013 #5
The shameful part is it costs $20-25k to house one prisoner. joshcryer Sep 2013 #6
It's more moral to pay somone to keep people in prison than to pay the people to keep out of there Fumesucker Sep 2013 #11
K&R nt Mnemosyne Sep 2013 #7
Thanks for doing that. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #8
It was a big clue that Chris was asking about bicycles in the thrift store Fumesucker Sep 2013 #10
K&R woo me with science Sep 2013 #9

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
1. For some, the security of 3 hots and a cot...
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:26 AM
Sep 2013

beats what's going on out here.

But nobody's asking why.

Rather, the right people aren't asking why.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
2. thanks for helping him. ex-prisoners have it really hard. there are programs in la that help with th
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 12:52 AM
Sep 2013

The transition

No Vested Interest

(5,167 posts)
3. This serves as a reminder
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 02:30 AM
Sep 2013

to those of us not in this situation, that many people do have a tough time.
I especially feel for those without a support systems - family, friends, etc.
Thanks for posting this.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
4. I'm having trouble responding, other than to acknowledge (what a weasel word) that
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:13 AM
Sep 2013

you have done the right thing.

I work the information desk at a hospital. Recently, another information desk employee told me about an incident when he was working. A patient was trying to get through the revolving doors in front of the main information desk. The patient was in a wheelchair, not the best thing for going through revolving doors, and being quite hateful to his attendant, using vile, racist language. After a bit a nurse, or nursing assistant showed up and said to the wheelchair guy, "Hi, my name is Jeff and I'm here to help you." It totally defused the situation. Jeff (not his real name) was able to get wheelchair guy whatever it was he needed.

I keep on thinking about that.

I'm Sheila, and I'm here to help you. I say that to myself every single day, to remind myself that this is what it's about. Not competition, not screwing over someone else, not putting myself first.

I'm Sheila and I'm here to help you.

If I can just live the rest of my life that way, I'll be doing good.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
6. The shameful part is it costs $20-25k to house one prisoner.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 03:35 AM
Sep 2013

That is money that could house an individual. In a 4 person household that's freaking $100k. That's good living!

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. It's more moral to pay somone to keep people in prison than to pay the people to keep out of there
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:23 PM
Sep 2013

Even if it's much more expensive to keep them in prison than otherwise.



Sometimes I wonder just what the hell is going through people's heads.

LuvNewcastle

(16,847 posts)
8. Thanks for doing that.
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 10:10 AM
Sep 2013

Some people out there never get a break. A lot of people think that there are places for them to stay, like the Salvation Army, but there aren't nearly enough beds to go around for all the folks who need it. If people are released from prison without any kind of support network on the outside, it's very likely they'll become homeless. Then they'll be worse off than they were in prison. If you can keep a man out of prison or feed him for a day, you've done a fine thing.

People think they can't help anyone unless they're able to totally remake a person's life, but if you can provide a meal or a place to sleep for a night or even something they might be able to use from day to day, please do it. Remember, these people are living one day to the next, so all you have to do is make a difference for that one day.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
10. It was a big clue that Chris was asking about bicycles in the thrift store
Fri Sep 20, 2013, 01:21 PM
Sep 2013

Sometimes they have something close to rideable but most of the time they don't.

The difference in mobility between being on foot and having a bicycle lead Susan B Anthony to say that the bicycle had done more for women's emancipation than anything else. I was driving a borrowed car yesterday, I don't own a car so the transportation issue is a more obvious one to me than to many.

I was trying to scrounge around and find a cable or chain and a lock for him but didn't have that, thankfully the bike isn't exactly pristine and hopefully won't be a major target for thieves.




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