FBI calls half of populace with 9/11 doubts potential terrorists

[DeSwiss]

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By Ralph Lopez
Sep 19, 2013 - yesterday in Crime

The FBI is instructing local police departments and "communities against terrorism" to consider anyone who harbors "conspiracy theories" about 9/11 to be a potential terrorist, in a circular released to local police departments.

The memo thus adds 9/11-official-story skeptics to a growing list of targets described by federal law enforcement to be security threats, such as those who express "libertarian philosophies," "Second Amendment-oriented views," interest in "self-sufficiency," "fears of Big Brother or big government," and "Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties."

A newly released national poll shows that 48 percent of Americans either have some doubts about the official account of 9/11, or do not believe it at all.

The FBI circular entitled "Potential Indicators of Terrorist Activities Related to Sleepers" says that people who should be 'considered suspicious' of possible involvement in "terrorist activity" include those who hold the "attitude" described as " Conspiracy theories about Westerners." The circular continues: "e.g. (sic) the CIA arranged for 9/11 to legitimize the invasion of foreign lands."

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- If you're thinking right now, you could be committing a crime. Thoughtcrime, it's everybody's business. ''Just Say No To Thoughtcrime''.

[FiveGoodMen]

1. A few years ago, many of us posted, "Is it fascism yet?"

We were derided for overreacting.

How about now...

Is it fascism YET?

[DeSwiss]

3. When we asked back then.....

...it already was.

[BillyRibs]

2. IOW

Any one who disagrees with the Official Story, about anything.



Humpty Dumpty didn't fall, He was pushed.
How about that!?

[DeSwiss]

5. However.....

...his case was reviewed by DOJ and in-house lawyers, to insure that his civil rights were protected.

- It was a clean hit.

[BillyRibs]

12. Most likely a drone strike!

[BainsBane]

4. What newly released poll?

I find that difficult to believe.

[Wilms]

10. Probably this one.

http://rethink911.org/news/new-poll-finds-most-americans-open-to-alternative-911-theories/

But if you click on the link, there will be a knock at your door within a day or two. No biggie. Just a friendly visit and talk.

[Bolo Boffin]

14. Really? Click on that link and someone from the government will come talk to me about it in a day?

Or two?

REALLY?

Well, that's just like putting chocolate in front of me and telling me not to eat it. How can I resist?

I'll report the details of my impending visit from the Feds as soon as they let me.

ETA: Oh, crap, that's just wacky AE911Truth BS. The government doesn't care about THEM. What a letdown.

[MyshkinCommaPrince]

6. PNAC!

Thermite!

Dammit, now I'm on a list.

I guess I should hide the signal in some noise. Flying saucers stole my shoes. My cat talks to ghosts. Turtles, all the way, always turtles.



Sigh. I will never manage to pull off being funny.

[Politicalboi]

7. Have they already picked out the cell for me?

I believe missiles were used. And it wasn't just so we can attack foreign lands, it was so we would give our rights up, and it worked. Do all those who called us "truthers" crazy think the same thing now. If this is that important to them to hide, there must be truth in the inside job theory.

Why not say the same about the JFK conspiracy nuts? Since when is it protocol to leave the President unprotected in his limo? Is it normal that a passenger "plane" could hit one of our BIGGEST defense buildings with 40 minutes notice? Unravel their lies, and it gets you jail time. Not one picture of seats from ANY of the 4 flights. But that's normal I suppose. No reconstruction of ANY plane, but I guess that's normal too.

[whatchamacallit]

8. ...

[lumberjack_jeff]

9. J Edgar Hoover never really died.

How's that for a conspiracy theory? There is plenty of evidence that I'm right.

[Ezlivin]

11. There will be a whole lot of veterans on that list.

Veterans Today

And scientists, engineers, firefighters, aviation professionals, medical professionals, journalists and many others are the list as well.

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Duplicate thread, and just as goofy now as then.

At least the OP did the courtesy of reproducing the actual graphic where you can see the long list of characteristics used to develop an official suspicion. 9/11 conspiracy theories are just one of several "attitude indicators."

If the only item on this list that describes you is the 9/11 conspiracy theory one, you need to get down off the cross. Nobody is talking about you.

[Fumesucker]

15. Any way you look at it the one thing 9/11 positively was was a conspiracy

What you actually mean is _unofficial_ conspiracy theories because the official theory certainly involved a conspiracy.

[Bolo Boffin]

16. Do you know what they call conspiracy theories that are shown to have happened?

Conspiracies. (h/t to Tim Minchin.)

19 Al-Qaeda extremists hijacking four planes, crashing three of them into buildings (two of which fell), crashing a fourth into a field after passengers revolted? That's a conspiracy.

A third building with unusual structural design collapsing hours later due to a prolonged, unfought fire at its weakest point? That's physics.

But the OP's assertion that simply promoting or believing a conspiracy theory about 9/11 is sufficient in and of itself to merit official suspicion as a terrorist? That's hogwash.

[Fumesucker]

17. I suspect it depends on how vocal and how persuasive you are at it and the nature of your audience

No one can tell for sure what any given person thinks if they do not somehow reveal themselves, or at least so far anyway.

[SidDithers]

18. Truthers are fucking idiots, but they're not terrorists...

In fact, according to noted anti-Semite truther, Kevin Barrett, they can't be terrorists:

More evidence has emerged that the Tsanaev brothers are innocent patsies, not terrorists.

Today's Boston Globe story presents the testimony of Donald Larking, a friend of Tamerlan Tsarnaev. According to Larking, Tamerlan was a kind, gentle, pious individual - and a 9/11 truther.

It should go without saying that Muslims who understand that 9/11 was an inside job would never, under any circumstances, carry out terrorist attacks targeting civilians. They know that such attacks serve the interests of the Zionists and the military-industrial complex, and harm the interests of Muslims.

The fact that the Tsarnaevs are 9/11 truthers is 100% slam-dunk-positive proof that they are innocent.

And the fact that Craft International, Inc. was caught red-handed planting the bombs is further proof, if any were needed.

-Kevin Barrett

Sid

[whatchamacallit]

19. "Truther" being anyone, anywhere, with doubts or questions?

Such a rational and informed position...

[zappaman]

20. "Truther" being anyone, anywhere, with doubts or questions?

And then those questions get scientifically answered, but they don't like the answers cuz it doesn't mesh with their crap theory and so they stick to whatever the bullshit they learned off of a youtube video told them?

Yeah, I agree they're fucking idiots.

[whatchamacallit]

21. Your flaccid scientism is noted

This is probably beyond your grasp, but science is not immutable. It is rarely settled, and not something you can claim to own simply by picking an interpretation of phenomena that suits a preferred outcome.

[zappaman]

22. Obviously the science behind why the buildings collapsed

is beyond your grasp.
So keep studying!
I have faith you will get it!

[whatchamacallit]

23. I grasp the *theories*

but they're bullshit. Anyway, I'm at least smart enough not to choose a handle based on a person with whom I share little ideology.
Swift.

[DeSwiss]

24. We're all fucking idiots.

- We use less than 20% of our brains and less than 3% of our DNA. We couldn't be anything but idiots.

Some just don't know it.

[azurnoir]

25. sorry locking

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