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Zater

(17 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:29 PM Sep 2013

President Obama. Please do something to stop the massacre in Iraq

Lately, dozens of people have been kill in atrocious ways by terrorists.

Something must be done to stop this crisis, whether the answer is diplomatic or military.

Let's brainstorm and find ways in which USA can significantly reduce this violence that kills children, women and men every day.

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TheCowsCameHome

(40,270 posts)
1. We tried that once before.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:31 PM
Sep 2013

It didn't work out so well.

How about we do something to stop the violence and killing in this country?

CAG

(1,820 posts)
3. Not to sound overly snarky about such a serious
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:37 PM
Sep 2013

subject, but i think you're asking the wrong guy for help; President cheney and his minion put them in the mess they're in, so go ask them to fix it.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
4. You won't find a lot of enthusiasm here. Perhaps, you should speak to SandWind?
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:38 PM
Sep 2013

Maybe the Free Syrian Army (FSA) can be called upon to do some peacekeeping in Iraq. They're really good at that sort of thing.

In all seriousness, however, Americans have about had it with "humanitarian interventions" in the Mideast/Gulf, particularly in civil wars we worked so hard to start.

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
6. a good job for Bush/Cheney to work on
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:44 PM
Sep 2013

They need something to keep then busy in retirement. Send them to Iraq to work on diplomacy.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
12. Nnnnngh, I HATE when people misuse that phrase!
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 07:28 PM
Sep 2013

How We Use It

As a buzz term to protest against giving money to faceless strangers abroad. Google the phrase and you find a bunch of pundits and columnists all using it the same way: "Sure, some foreign country may have just been leveled by an earthquake or an exploding volcano, but there are starving people right here. We should fix the problems in our own country first -- after all, charity begins at home."

What It Originally Meant

"You should absolutely give money to those war-torn tsunami orphans, and the first step to doing so is to not be a douchebag."

"Charity begins at home" is one of those obnoxious phrases that people use to alleviate their guilt about never actually being charitable. But they are, of course, using the word "charity" in the sense that it's most commonly used today -- giving money or aid to poor people. When the phrase "charity begins at home" was first coined, the definition of "charity" was a little different. From Roman times up until recently, "charity" wasn't necessarily about giving alms. It was more of a state of mind, a mentality of kindness and benevolence. You know this if you've read a Bible, by the way -- the word for "charity" and the more general "love" are both translated from the same Greek word, "agape."


The point being, when people first started saying "charity begins at home," what they were trying to get across was that being a loving person in the home leads to being a loving person out in the world. In other words, it served as an instruction about how to be more generous, which is kind of the opposite of the way it's used today as a warning against being too generous. Or, as other experts have pointed out, only an asshole could hear "charity begins at home" and interpret it to mean that it also ends there.

http://www.cracked.com/article_20251_the-5-most-frequently-misused-proverbs_p2.html

mn9driver

(4,835 posts)
10. The Baathist Sunnis in Iraq have about 370 tons of HE
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:54 PM
Sep 2013

They stole it from the unguarded Al Qa'qaa facility sometime after the US invasion while we were busy bestowing Freedom! and Capitalism! and Democracy! on the Iraqi people.

They have it all, and the killing won't stop until they have used it all. Many, many years and deaths from now.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
11. The killing won't stop until the civil war is over and one side or another wins.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 06:58 PM
Sep 2013

US policy exacerbated the situation.

Had Bush I removed Saddam, the Shiites would have won a short civil war. The decade and a half of subsequent killing would not have happened.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
14. We're certainly not going to be able to stop the religious hate between the Shia and Sunni.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 08:15 PM
Sep 2013

They've been killing each other for decades, including during the so called "peaceful era" under Saddam, who used the military to commit mass murder of both the Kurds and the Shia majority.

We gave them a chance to change their country for the better, sadly they seem to be wasting it.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
15. At the rate the US is going we will have to deal with starvation at home
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 08:19 PM
Sep 2013

never mind Iraq.

It seems that the US is obsessed with the middle east.

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