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coldmountain

(802 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:44 PM Sep 2013

10 poorest states--I guess those right to work laws aren't helping

Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, Kentucky, New Mexico, Tennessee, Louisiana, South Carolina and Oklahoma

These states don't exactly spend a lot in education but they do have good college football teams.


http://247wallst.com/special-report/2013/09/19/americas-richest-and-poorest-states/7/

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10 poorest states--I guess those right to work laws aren't helping (Original Post) coldmountain Sep 2013 OP
West Virginia does not have a right to work law. Staph Sep 2013 #1
Yes, but at least you could drive through Morgantown. 1-Old-Man Sep 2013 #7
The traffic in Morgantown is my biggest gripe... a la izquierda Sep 2013 #14
People don't seem to get West Virginia... a la izquierda Sep 2013 #13
You guessed wrong! It is working EXACTLY the way business and the GOP planned rustydog Sep 2013 #2
+1 RedCappedBandit Sep 2013 #20
LABI in Louisiana worked very hard to get the law to pass, they said it would bring more jobs to Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #3
It's the Right to Work For Less to qualify for Food Stamps to make up the difference. libdem4life Sep 2013 #4
New Mexico isn't a right to work state pscot Sep 2013 #5
Actually Wages are Higher in New Mexico then Texas (Right to Work State) FreakinDJ Sep 2013 #9
I think long term socioeconomics is a bigger factor then right to work laws pediatricmedic Sep 2013 #6
Didn't Romney carry all those states? Wouldn't those doc03 Sep 2013 #8
he didn't carry NM. we went blue. n/t NMDemDist2 Sep 2013 #17
Yes and the problem is that folks keep on voting against themselves and eachother. gopiscrap Sep 2013 #10
NM is blue n/t NMDemDist2 Sep 2013 #18
it's the usual suspects Skittles Sep 2013 #11
Solidarity. Scuba Sep 2013 #12
Thank God for right to starve laws! Nanjing to Seoul Sep 2013 #15
Just what we need, more South-bashing Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #16
What did you expect? cordelia Sep 2013 #22
Let me tell you the story of Cass Hough Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #19
Look for Indiana to join the list after republicans passed the right to work for less law. B Calm Sep 2013 #21

Staph

(6,467 posts)
1. West Virginia does not have a right to work law.
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 09:52 PM
Sep 2013

And this afternoon, both of our University football teams lost (West Virginia and Marshall Universities).

Le sigh!


a la izquierda

(12,336 posts)
14. The traffic in Morgantown is my biggest gripe...
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:01 AM
Sep 2013

with this place. Other than that, it's great.

a la izquierda

(12,336 posts)
13. People don't seem to get West Virginia...
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:01 AM
Sep 2013

Unions are hugely important here, as are local democratic politics (at least this is what I've observed since moving here in June).

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. LABI in Louisiana worked very hard to get the law to pass, they said it would bring more jobs to
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 10:14 PM
Sep 2013

Louisiana, wrong. It was business working for cheap labor.

pscot

(21,044 posts)
5. New Mexico isn't a right to work state
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 10:39 PM
Sep 2013

and doesn't really resemble the others on the list except for the endemic poverty.

 

FreakinDJ

(17,644 posts)
9. Actually Wages are Higher in New Mexico then Texas (Right to Work State)
Sun Sep 22, 2013, 12:57 AM
Sep 2013

Texas $26.77 (Right to Work State)
New Mexico $29.90

IBEW Scale

doc03

(39,086 posts)
8. Didn't Romney carry all those states? Wouldn't those
Sat Sep 21, 2013, 11:58 PM
Sep 2013

states have a large percentage of the "Takers"?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
19. Let me tell you the story of Cass Hough
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:27 AM
Sep 2013

to help you understand a little about the situation, from my little corner of the South.

In the 1950s, Cass Hough was a director of Daisy Manufacturing Company, which at the time was headquartered in Michigan. But in 1958, a surprising thing happened-- his company relocated to Rogers, Arkansas. In Michigan, management and labor had had a somewhat confrontational relationship, but after moving to Arkansas, Mr. Hough and the other directors found a workforce that was extremely cooperative and appreciated the wages they were receiving, which were higher than typical wages for retail workers, or even workers in local factories, which were nearly all associated with food production (vinegar, poultry, canning, etc.). And the workers in Arkansas were producing quality products. I knew people in the mid-60s who worked for Daisy and they were PROUD of that. Mr. Hough became a kind of local hero, with several municipal facilities like the library named in his honor.

Soon after Daisy relocated to Rogers, other manufacturers followed, including Deming Company (later Crane), Munsingwear (later Bear Brand), TRW-Wendt Sonis, Union Carbide, Emerson Electric. Within 20 years of Daisy's move to Rogers, 15 to 20 other manufacturing plants had moved there as well. People were glad to get a job at one of those plants, because the wages were higher than the average wage in the area, and they could make a pretty decent living.

Why did all of these industries relocate to Rogers? It was because of right-to-work, and the fact the workers in the Rogers area were skilled and viewed management (at least at the time) as a partner rather than as an adversary.

Things have changed in the ensuing years, and some of those industries I mentioned have moved out. But it was not because of the right-to-work laws, nor was it because the workers were stupid or unskilled. It was in large part due to corporate attitudes, with management taking an adversarial attitude toward their employees, who had been transformed into little more than "human resources". There was also the need to constantly placate Wall Street with ever-increasing profits, so some of those companies packed up and moved to low-wage countries.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
21. Look for Indiana to join the list after republicans passed the right to work for less law.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 06:29 AM
Sep 2013
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