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Ninga

(8,272 posts)
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:07 AM Sep 2013

The negative, pounding, organized, relentless GOP drumbeat against

Obamacare is blasting like a rocket into the stratosphere. They are desperate, strident and everywhere.

I watched David Frum on Bill Maher pound away at breakneck speed point after point why the American people hate it.....

The lack of push back whenever a Democratic surrogate is present is...stunning...allowed the GOP to seize the message when they could have said..."you lie." The GOP has gained traction in the polls..




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The negative, pounding, organized, relentless GOP drumbeat against (Original Post) Ninga Sep 2013 OP
It's driving them mad. HappyMe Sep 2013 #1
Madder...maddest...whatever...I want our side to stop letting the GOP define the message...why? Ninga Sep 2013 #2
They are obsessed with this. HappyMe Sep 2013 #4
I still cannot understand why. antiquie Sep 2013 #3
I don't think that they care about anybody but themselves. HappyMe Sep 2013 #5
Yes, our President is at the core of their hatred. But how long have we known this? Going on Ninga Sep 2013 #9
I don't know if they are fucked up HappyMe Sep 2013 #11
They don't, just as they fought against Medicare. More importantly, in 2013, their negative Ninga Sep 2013 #7
I can see the destruction antiquie Sep 2013 #10
What they get is a perceived HappyMe Sep 2013 #12
Yes. They are that evil. Katashi_itto Sep 2013 #13
You know if these people would organize to do good deeds it would be fantastic. Tippy Sep 2013 #6
and they're going to lose on this issue and all I can say is FUCK THE GOP!!! gopiscrap Sep 2013 #8
Frum was awful on Real Time. Bluenorthwest Sep 2013 #14
Agree. But what was stunning to me, was how strident and forceful Frum was, hammering at every Ninga Sep 2013 #18
Tea Party negativity is rampant where I live Stainless Sep 2013 #15
it is Obama/Dems responsibility to push back to protect their baby. nt msongs Sep 2013 #16
There you go. Simply stated. Ninga Sep 2013 #19
David Frum seemed like he was coked up or aomething. Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #17

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
2. Madder...maddest...whatever...I want our side to stop letting the GOP define the message...why?
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:17 AM
Sep 2013

Because it chips away at local and state wide candidates...where we kneed to increase our numbers...

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
4. They are obsessed with this.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sep 2013

Otherwise there wouldn't be the constant voting. Congress hasn't done squat except discuss and vote for this.

Where I am, it hasn't hurt local candidates at all.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
3. I still cannot understand why.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:18 AM
Sep 2013

I can't grasp that they do not want good for the American people -- are they all really that evil?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
5. I don't think that they care about anybody but themselves.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:28 AM
Sep 2013

It also has a lot to do with not wanting the President to get anything through ever.

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
9. Yes, our President is at the core of their hatred. But how long have we known this? Going on
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:46 AM
Sep 2013

5 years now?? Why the hell are Democrats so fucked up when it comes to messaging?

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
11. I don't know if they are fucked up
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:58 AM
Sep 2013

on messaging or just weary from dealing with those asshats. If I was in Congress, every once in awhile (time for another health care vote!) I would dread going to work. More obstruction every damn day.

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
7. They don't, just as they fought against Medicare. More importantly, in 2013, their negative
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:43 AM
Sep 2013

campaign of anti Obamacare TV ads and surrogates getting their faces and talking points on every news/cable program they can, is having an effect on the polls.

 

antiquie

(4,299 posts)
10. I can see the destruction
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:48 AM
Sep 2013

they are causing, I just don't see what they get.
They have kids/grandkids, too, right --
it seems they do not care what they leave for the coming generations.

Tippy

(4,610 posts)
6. You know if these people would organize to do good deeds it would be fantastic.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

Instead we have a bunch of loonies in the drivers seat..

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. Frum was awful on Real Time.
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 11:08 AM
Sep 2013

He is usually very good at what he does, but Friday night he was just whining while circling the drain and he knew it. Here's hoping Frum is septic safe and causes no harm to the plumbing there at Television City....

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
18. Agree. But what was stunning to me, was how strident and forceful Frum was, hammering at every
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 03:11 PM
Sep 2013

chance.

I thought to myself..."holy cow - they are fearful people will like healthcare and turn to the Dems"....

Stainless

(718 posts)
15. Tea Party negativity is rampant where I live
Mon Sep 23, 2013, 12:05 PM
Sep 2013

Utah is populated by a majority of pathetically brainwashed sheep. Most of the people here admire and respect a hypocritical and dead beat Senator (Mike Lee) who defaulted on his home mortgage. The only Democrat in the Utah Congressional delegation (Jim Matheson) voted for the CR to defund Obamacare. I'm thoroughly disgusted with the way the national Democrats have allowed the extreme right to dominate and define the debate. Critical thinking is discouraged and frowned upon and nobody is willing to step forward and demand it. The Republican effort to defund and define education for the last forty years is finally coming to fruition and manifesting itself in the ignorance of the voters.

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