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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:40 AM Sep 2013

What is the Most Screwed Up Thing About Your State? Check This Chart

For all the U-S-A, U-S-A rah rah that goes around, the United States can be a shameful place.

The below map lays out some of the statistically worst things about each state. It covers everything from health to crime to travel to drug use. Some states don't have it so bad (Ohio, the "nerdiest&quot but others really kind of suck (Mississippi has the highest rate of obesity at 35.3% of total population ... and ranks poorly in the most number of categories. These include highest rate of child poverty at 31.9%, highest rate of infant mortality at 10.3% lowest median household income at $35,078, highest teen birth rate at 71.9 per 1,000 women aged 15 to 19 and highest overall rate of STDs. Phew.)

It's not 100% science proof ... some of the metrics are taken from purely qualitative rankings (i.e. North Dakota).

It's supposed to be a bit tongue-in-cheek, but some of the stats will really shock you.




http://www.policymic.com/articles/64665/what-is-the-most-screwed-up-thing-about-your-state-check-this-chart

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What is the Most Screwed Up Thing About Your State? Check This Chart (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Sep 2013 OP
North Dakota should be cold weather. The people are very attractive. Coyotl Sep 2013 #1
Texas: do I even need to bother? Skittles Sep 2013 #2
They should pay you to live there....knowing that if you moved the average IQ would drop 22 points. BlueJazz Sep 2013 #37
Uh, yes, you do .... oldhippie Sep 2013 #45
well BlueJazz understood! Skittles Sep 2013 #60
Colorado has highest rate of cocaine use? News to me... hlthe2b Sep 2013 #3
maybe that's why we have the lowest obesity rate fizzgig Sep 2013 #9
Gee, and I thought their greatest shame was Tim Tebow.... Frankie the Bird Sep 2013 #51
Worst drivers? I don't think so. MADem Sep 2013 #4
The worst US drivers I've encountered have been in the Northeast, Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #6
Boston drivers are like little old ladies from Pasadena compared to MADem Sep 2013 #10
Of course, the original "little old lady from Pasadena" Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #12
But...but....the little old lady's car was in perfect condition!! MADem Sep 2013 #34
Yeah but that's the creeping influence of Canadians. wickerwoman Sep 2013 #20
Have you ever driven in Southern California? Art_from_Ark Sep 2013 #30
That sounds more like the drivers here in the Atlanta area. n/t RebelOne Sep 2013 #39
I Can't Disagree RobinA Sep 2013 #35
This map is a bit of silliness, I think... lunasun Sep 2013 #8
I've driven in many areas of the country, and can confidently state that Buns_of_Fire Sep 2013 #59
New York houses the most dangerous and corrupt.... adirondacker Sep 2013 #5
So if someone in Wisconsin marries someone from Arizona, they end up in Michigan? NYC_SKP Sep 2013 #7
If tornadoes are the worst Minnesota has to offer NickB79 Sep 2013 #11
Waitaminute... LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #13
Now that I think of it, defacto7 Sep 2013 #16
I think it makes sense. Mormons, sexually repressed, therefore porn is their outlet. BainsBane Sep 2013 #25
So that should be their "best" feature, as opposed to their worst!! MADem Sep 2013 #33
Utah for porn usage, I can see that. defacto7 Sep 2013 #14
It's been awful this week LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #18
Remember a week or 2 ago when the wind pushed in off the flats defacto7 Sep 2013 #19
The Day of the Lake Stench LadyHawkAZ Sep 2013 #31
As for California and Air Pollution yuiyoshida Sep 2013 #15
CA air pollution is much better. defacto7 Sep 2013 #17
It may be better but still worst in country by far. former9thward Sep 2013 #64
New York....I can go on forever but we need to sleep and eat SummerSnow Sep 2013 #21
That people go to the library is the worst thing about Ohio? woo me with science Sep 2013 #22
This list sounds like it was compiled by a bunch of frat bros. Gravitycollapse Sep 2013 #23
The map is wrong. MN should be interminable winter. BainsBane Sep 2013 #24
Okay, Hawaii. Warren DeMontague Sep 2013 #26
Taxes? I remember worse... But taxes were extremely high, true. Democracyinkind Sep 2013 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Sep 2013 #28
Wouldn't it just have been easier to write "Everything!" on Idaho? jmowreader Sep 2013 #29
Actually Indiana has thousands of wind turbines, B Calm Sep 2013 #32
I Didn't Know Arson RobinA Sep 2013 #36
NC is listed as Teacher Salary Jamastiene Sep 2013 #38
I get totally pissed when trailer dwellers are ridiculed RebelOne Sep 2013 #41
I do as well hootinholler Sep 2013 #46
Yes! That term drives me crazy too. Jamastiene Sep 2013 #62
Do they have a map showing the statistically best things about the states. NCTraveler Sep 2013 #40
At one time Delaware had the highest cancer rate treestar Sep 2013 #42
Iowa - oldest state fletchthedubs Sep 2013 #43
some of these are beyond stupid La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2013 #44
Surely bestiality isn't all that common in WA. LuvNewcastle Sep 2013 #47
They must have used 2010 stats for tornadoes Jenoch Sep 2013 #48
The worst thing about Washington is our tax system. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #49
Surely that's an issue with the federal tax code wickerwoman Sep 2013 #52
The reason that it is so regressive is BECAUSE we don't have a state income tax. lumberjack_jeff Sep 2013 #57
It's worth noting that a lot of Illinoisans travel to Wisconsin to do their binge drinking. Gidney N Cloyd Sep 2013 #50
4 reported cases of bestiality makes us the bestiality state? LittleBlue Sep 2013 #53
Washington and Bestiality JPZenger Sep 2013 #55
Well, we had a lot of green energy tech here in Indy, but Illinois stole it. NuclearDem Sep 2013 #54
I will take being known for taxes because I get SERVICES! hollysmom Sep 2013 #56
Suicide is indeed a problem here, Blue_In_AK Sep 2013 #58
Alcoholism--how did they know? panader0 Sep 2013 #61
Maine is not the dumbest state,but... SiobhanClancy Sep 2013 #63
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
1. North Dakota should be cold weather. The people are very attractive.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:44 AM
Sep 2013

I know, my sister grew up there.

Oh, and Oregon only has high homeless because the weather is not cold, a good thing. San Diego has the same problem, homeless congregating where the weather is survivable at night.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
37. They should pay you to live there....knowing that if you moved the average IQ would drop 22 points.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:52 AM
Sep 2013

hlthe2b

(113,824 posts)
3. Colorado has highest rate of cocaine use? News to me...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:50 AM
Sep 2013

I'm sure it flows in Vail, Aspen, Telluride with the "glitterati", but really, that does surprise me.

fizzgig

(24,146 posts)
9. maybe that's why we have the lowest obesity rate
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:21 AM
Sep 2013

they must be able to get better stuff elsewhere, anyone who knows says you can't get decent blow in my city.

 

Frankie the Bird

(70 posts)
51. Gee, and I thought their greatest shame was Tim Tebow....
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:56 PM
Sep 2013

but what do I know

(I live in Denver)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Worst drivers? I don't think so.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:51 AM
Sep 2013

I can go anywhere in the world and not be intimidated, thanks to the training I got on the streets of Boston.

Boston drivers know what they're doing--when out-of-staters come in, they don't understand the rules (slow to the right, fast to the left) and they gum up the works, and get mad whem people correct them with their horn....

And I don't get into accidents, either--I get insurance rebates every year!

I also don't think people from Maine are the "dumbest" either.

This map is a bit of silliness, I think...

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
6. The worst US drivers I've encountered have been in the Northeast,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:59 AM
Sep 2013

particularly New York, New Jersey, southern Connecticut, and yes, Boston, as well as in California. I'm talking regular roads here. On expressways, "the more crowded they are, the worse the drivers are" seems to have been the rule, no matter where I've been.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Boston drivers are like little old ladies from Pasadena compared to
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:52 AM
Sep 2013

Rome drivers! And India--fuggedaboutit! Iran, Egypt, Iraq--these are "Hang on and pray" places if you take a taxi. And Hong Kong!!! When the car can move owing to the traffic jams, that'll take a few years off your life....

I was out in the LA area a month or two ago, and they can have their moments, too, I noticed!

I went to the "cite" they used to get to the justification for worst drivers, and it was based on accident statistics. The thing they don't consider, though, is that Massachusetts--Boston and many other cities in the rest of the state--are "College Central"--every year we have a massive influx of out of staters coming in to go to school, and they--and their parents who are terrified of city driving--crunch a lotta fenders; plus, we all cross borders a lot up this way, I can go up to NH, down to RI or CT, and I even go to ME on occasion--it's just not that big a deal. I'd want to see more justification to buy their argument.

I also think people hear about "Ooooh, driving in Boston" and they have that self-fulfilling prophesy thing happening. Ever since they depressed the central artery and completed the Tip O'Neill and Ted Williams tunnels, driving through the city is downright....orderly!!

You do have to keep your wits about you in the northeast, because driving in Boston--and NJ and even Philly, last time I was there--is a lot like driving in Europe. I don't find it dangerous at all--the "rules of the road" are kind of intuitive if you came up driving around this area.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
12. Of course, the original "little old lady from Pasadena"
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:08 AM
Sep 2013

was a real hot-rodder

My worst experience in Boston was when I was stopped at traffic light for 15 minutes or more, watching the light turn green repeatedly but being unable to go anywhere. Then, finally, just after the light had turned green for the umpteenth time, the car in front of me moved! So I moved, too. But the car in front of me stopped after just making it all the way through the intersection, leaving me still stuck in the intersection 30 seconds later when the light turned red again. And to add insult to injury, a cop stopped me after I had finally made it through that damn intersection and told me I couldn't stop in an intersection! At least he didn't give me a ticket.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
34. But...but....the little old lady's car was in perfect condition!!
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 07:17 AM
Sep 2013

Traffic in Boston (which can still be ghastly, depending on the time of day) has gotten better since the Big Dig. It cost enough, but it's made the flow much better. Even at rush hour it's usually not too horrible, though "game days" when sports events are happening can slow things up still.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
20. Yeah but that's the creeping influence of Canadians.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:47 AM
Sep 2013

Montreal had hands down the worst drivers of any North American city I've visited.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
30. Have you ever driven in Southern California?
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 04:27 AM
Sep 2013

Some of the most aggressive drivers I've ever encountered have been in SoCal. Even on winding, narrow mountain roads some of those drivers seem to think they're on a straight, empty freeway. Like the time I was trying to drive from San Bernardino to Big Bear Lake on a narrow road full of hairpin curves, and I was doing my best to both drive safely and placate the drivers behind me. But they were sooooo impatient, they would zoom past me on blind curves with a solid yellow line in our lane and road signs that said 25mph. I got so tired of those idiots and their death-wish driving that I turned around and headed back.

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
35. I Can't Disagree
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:40 AM
Sep 2013

Being from PA, I'm kinda in the middle of all this. I do have to add one non-NE state, Michigan. If I'm tooling out the PA Turnpike doing 70 and a guy comes flying up behind me and whips around at the last minute it's either New York or Michigan. Invariably. The drive from Philadelphia to Boston is hair-raising, and I'm not a timid driver. I just think there should be some car lengths between cars going 80 mph.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
8. This map is a bit of silliness, I think...
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:05 AM
Sep 2013

Iowa has the oldest population and another state most mobile homes
I am not a senior nor do I live in a mobile home but really - why would either of these statistics be a "worst"????? Neither is like robbery or bestiality mentioned for other states
silly

Buns_of_Fire

(19,144 posts)
59. I've driven in many areas of the country, and can confidently state that
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:32 PM
Sep 2013

there ain't NOBODY out there that knows what the hell they're doing!

(Except for me, of course, but that goes without saying. And if you don't like the way I drive, stay off the sidewalk!)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. So if someone in Wisconsin marries someone from Arizona, they end up in Michigan?
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:02 AM
Sep 2013

Or maybe Montana?

Or WASHINGTON STATE?

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
16. Now that I think of it,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:29 AM
Sep 2013

You're right. With the emphasis on all the other more screwed up things here. Hey, Utah is so patriotic it was "awarded" the new NSA facility!

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
14. Utah for porn usage, I can see that.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:24 AM
Sep 2013

Everything is secretive here. But California really doesn't deserve the air pollution award. That one has to belong to Utah as well. The air quality is dismal here and along with the secretive, private, never reveal the sacred secrets mentality, People just don't know how bad air pollution really is here. You can go outside most any night after 1AM in SLC and you can see and smell the refineries which have turned off their pollution filters... till about 6AM. The pollution from Nevada and California blows up the central valley and just sits here with the inversions like a fog in the winter and summer. At times you really know you can't leave the house, it's that bad. At times it reminds me of Gary Indiana in the early 60's.

I know SLC Utah has to have the worst air pollution is the US. Lot's of complaints during the winter Olympics.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
18. It's been awful this week
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:34 AM
Sep 2013

We rode up Big Cottonwood Canyon on Saturday, and could see the nasty brown haze sitting over the city. My allergies are going nuts.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
19. Remember a week or 2 ago when the wind pushed in off the flats
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:42 AM
Sep 2013

and the lake at about 40mph? Those days were miserable. We had a huge blackout downtown because of the heavy air and wind that blew out transformers and broke power lines. Surrounded by a cloud of green/gray sludge air, we stayed inside.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
31. The Day of the Lake Stench
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 04:49 AM
Sep 2013

Icky. It blew up while I was out to dinner and I had to walk home through that smelly white air. The power went out halfway through dinner, too.

yuiyoshida

(45,392 posts)
15. As for California and Air Pollution
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 02:26 AM
Sep 2013

I had heard the air quality has improved since California is paying for a more expensive gasoline which runs cleaner in your car. Smog checks are required in this state. I no longer have a car, but when I did, it seemed like every two years I was getting my car Smog checked.

BainsBane

(57,751 posts)
24. The map is wrong. MN should be interminable winter.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 03:57 AM
Sep 2013

Can we all admit that Washington wins with bestiality?

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
27. Taxes? I remember worse... But taxes were extremely high, true.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 04:08 AM
Sep 2013

You should have met my neighbors if you think that NJ's tax level is bad. Also, last time I lived there it was still McGreevey's state. Christie... must be a close contender for the title.

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
32. Actually Indiana has thousands of wind turbines,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 05:14 AM
Sep 2013

so I'm a little surprised at your map!

RobinA

(10,478 posts)
36. I Didn't Know Arson
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:44 AM
Sep 2013

was still big in PA. I remember in the '70's they were systematically burning down certain towns in western PA, but I thought this was a thing of the past. Not living in an arson-prone area, my view may be a little skewed in this.

On edit: Nope, after checking the statistics, it looks like Lawrence County is still doing a booming arson business. This has been since at least the '70's when I was there. Some things never change. Must be pretty much institutionalized by now.

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
38. NC is listed as Teacher Salary
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 08:58 AM
Sep 2013

and SC is listed as Most Mobile Homes.

I live right on the border (in NC, but really close to the SC line) between the two states...and I live in a mobile home. Other than the fact that mobile homes are not very strong compared to stick built houses (but even brick buildings go to hell in some tornadoes, depending on the strength), is "screwed up" about living in a mobile home.

I just had a concrete foundation put under mine and had it painted and the roof Kool Sealed. It now looks better than most of the houses in my neighborhood...and at least one neighbor has painted their deck railings the same Molera Vaquero Red that I used as my main color....less than a week after my trailer was painted. I'm waiting to see if anyone breaks out the Green Gables green to use as trim soon too.

I know most people look down on trailer parks, but I live on 2/3 of an acre (listed as .666 acres when I bought it, I just had to have it when I saw that) and I own the land and the trailer. There are only 2 trailers in my neighborhood. Mine is paid off. It is mine. The taxes have been paid ($70 for the whole year, beat that!). And it is truly home sweet home. There is no other place like it in the world. I love this place.

I grew up in a brick house in the city limits. It was considered THE BEST neighborhood, full of doctors and lawyers and all the other well-to-do "fine upstanding citizen" types. That house and the neighborhood had nothing but trouble. The taxes were astronomical. Several neighbors ended up killing each other. We all fucking hated each other.

One neighbor had Christmas lights up year round and sang really loudly (and really badly) religious songs in the yard year round, constantly was sneaking up on me and making weird ass religious comments about me going to hell because of the damnedest things that had nothing to do with the Bible, the woman was bonkers and I had to grow up next to that shit, and she wouldn't stay in her own damn yard with her religious preachy ass shit, but she was one of the worthwhile citizens of this county because her husband worked on the railroad and they were filthy fucking rich because he hurt his back or something.

I had another neighbor who brought a gun out of his house and started shooting randomly in my yard because he saw a coral snake. I put the handful of pine straw back down when I saw the snake and begged my crazy ass stupid fucking family and all the crazy ass stupid fucking neighbors not to kill it. It did not bite me or make any attempt to bite me. It was no danger to anyone. I had just had it in my fucking hands and it didn't bite me. Still, he broke out some kind of assault rifle I didn't even know he had and started shooting at the pine straw randomly in my yard. I barely had time to move out of the way when he came running with the gun shooting as he ran. He was a lawyer. You'd think a lawyer would think twice before firing a firearm randomly and wildly around a kid because he freaked the fuck out that there was a snake in some pine straw. Fucker. I still hate him for that to this day, always will. That was the closest I ever came to being shot...because the neighbor was trying to "help" in his own view of things. Bullshit, the fucker needed his ass kicked wildly shooting around a kid like that.

One other neighbor down the street stole a bunch of stuff out of our shed. My aunt made them paint the shed, apologize profusely to her every time they saw her from then on and they thanked her later, because she was the only person who ever disciplined them. They were used to being spoiled ass rich kids who got away with everything. She was the only one who ever dealt with them in any meaningful way. The cops always let them slide, because they were rich kids and she knew that. So, she took a non-police approach to dealing with their theft. Believe it or not, that neighbor ended up being the good one out of the bunch. The rest were certified bonkers.

Right before my aunt was evicted (and me along with her, I didn't know until the last minute she had lost the house), a child molester moved in next door. Oh joy. Such a fine neighborhood full of the best of the best worthwhile non trailer dwelling people and a freaking child molester (repeat offender of 5 to 6 year old little girls) moves in next door as the icing on the cake. I was more than happy to move away from that shit.

The neighborhood where I live now is a poor neighborhood, but the people are more like my family. My mother and my aunt wanted the best for me when I was a kid, so they raised me in a neighborhood with a reputation for being the best of the best people in the county. It was a shithole full of idiots, thieves, murderers, drug dealers, and religious freaks who would not stay in their own fucking yard with their certain brand of crazy. We could never truly afford to live there though. It was for rich people. My family wasn't rich. We barely scraped by. Beans and bread were the meals I looked forward to. Granted, before Reagan, we had better meals and even steaks from time to time. But, after Reagan and moving into that neighborhood from hell, it all went to hell in a hand basket. I fucking hated life while I lived there. It was a brick house, but felt more like an apartment. It had no character whatsoever. The heat was gas heat, but the idiots who installed it set the pilot light too low. Every time it rained, the pilot light went out and it blew cold air throughout the house. The air conditioner fucked up and we never could use it any more. We ended up with Kerosene heaters in the winter and window air conditioners in the summer. Our summers are like giant long lived farts straight out of Satan's asshole. The house had way too much square footage for window air conditioners to keep it cool unless you were standing right in front of the damn thing. The power bill was astronomical, in the $200 to $300 range monthly. Nothing worked like it was supposed to work. The house was haunted with a toilet flushing old lady who had to pee all damn night long every night. She was apparently the lady who lived and died there before we moved in. I wish she could have rested in peace and not had to piss so much, because I could have used the sleep and we could have used a break on the damn water bill.

Where I live now is a dream in comparison. Granted, my neighbor up the hill had terra cotta sewage pipes the finally wore out and broke and the ran right through my yard. That's fixed now and Mr. Shitpipe knows I can't stand him. It's not that he had that problem. It is how he acted about it and the damn trench he dug underneath my trailer then it rained cats and dogs and his girlfriend flushed tampons and QTips all night long knowing everything she flushed was running right down under my trailer. Thank God that is all fixed now and I don't have any problems with Mr. Shitpipe any more.

The neighbors across the street are kind of paranoid and put a sign in my yard that said this house protected by neighborhood watch. Ok. I have no problem with that. My other neighbor's dogs are what really protects my yard. No one can get near me when I am outside and God help anybody who tries to hurt me. Those dogs would rip them to shreds. The bigger of the two dogs doesn't even like bees to fly too close to me. Cars riding up and down the road when I am in the front yard are roundly chased away with nasty dog words yelled at them. She isn't playing. She means it. Anyone walking down the road had better keep it straight and narrow too. One move toward me and they are met with ferocious barking. I don't take a step out into the yard that those dogs are not here to guard me. I always make friends with any neighborhood dogs, no matter where I live. No security company that charges $99+ a month could protect this place as good as these dogs do. I pity the idiot who thinks they can get past these dogs to try any shit with me.

Other than the shitpipe problem a few years ago, I have to say this neighborhood beats the ritzy ass neighborhood full of brick houses and worthwhile upstanding citizens, hands down. I live in a trailer. True, but it is paid for, well maintained, in a nice, safe, beautiful neighborhood with neighbors who know how to stay in their own damn yard and leave me the hell alone unless we are comparing notes on any neighborhood disturbances, like a transformer on the power pole blowing out. I'd rather be in this neighborhood living in this trailer than in any brick house in any other neighborhood. It's home. It's safe. It has the most beautiful scenery in the entire county.

So, again I ask, is so wrong with someone who lives in a trailer? That brick house I grew up in can kiss my trailer dwelling ass. That place was depressing, bland, boring, built on top of an area that used to be a landfill, full of quicksand, and in a neighborhood I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. And no, before anyone asks, I would not want that house even in this neighborhood. The place was impossible to keep up, had too much square footage to try to heat and cool, had too many tiny ass rooms instead of fewer larger rooms with purpose, and mildew and mold problems from hell. No, I would not want to live in a brick house again. I prefer a place I can make pretty. Brick houses are never pretty to me. They are bland and boring, cost way too much to buy, cost way too much to heat and cool, and cost way too much in property taxes. Fuck all that. I could never afford that. Even if I could, why would I want to waste money like that? It's ridiculous.

I fucking hate when people ridicule and belittle people who live in trailers. Who the fuck do they think they are? Are they the religious nut who liked to wander around in other people's yards telling them all the crazy ass reasons they are going to hell? Are they the thieves who stole freaking wire from the poorest family in the neighborhood? Are they the child molester? Are they the lawyer who liked to fire his gun wildly around a child and scare the kid half to death? Are they the uptown drug dealer with connections in the police force? Who the fuck are they to belittle someone else.




Yes, that feels better now. I had to say it.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
41. I get totally pissed when trailer dwellers are ridiculed
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:14 AM
Sep 2013

belittled and looked down on. I live in a mobile home, which I own. I have low expenses and even have savings in the bank. I don't think that some of those who live in big brick homes can say that. And I really explode when I hear the term "trailer trash.'

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
62. Yes! That term drives me crazy too.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 05:01 PM
Sep 2013

I never had savings when we lived in the brick house. Here in the trailer, though, it costs much less to live and I'm able to save up some money. I absolutely agree with you. It's ridiculous when people talk bad about those of us who live in trailers. They don't know what they are talking about. They use stereotypes and assume we all fit their stereotype, when the truth is, most of us are families who have found a way to live within our means instead of going into massive debt for a brick home in the "nicest" neighborhood, that isn't really that nice, when you look at it realistically.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
40. Do they have a map showing the statistically best things about the states.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:10 AM
Sep 2013

Or are they just a bunch of negative assholes looking to prove Murikas bad.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
42. At one time Delaware had the highest cancer rate
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:19 AM
Sep 2013

So it seems Kentucky has taken over while we get abortions.

SC - their political landscape is such that the number of mobile homes seems the least of their problems.

Actually I think I might be comfortable living in Ohio.

I'm staying out of Washington!

Poor females! Get out of Nebraska. Just don't go to CT. Or OK!

fletchthedubs

(42 posts)
43. Iowa - oldest state
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 09:22 AM
Sep 2013

Beats robbery, bankruptcy, violence against women, and rape. And old people are nice so...

LuvNewcastle

(17,806 posts)
47. Surely bestiality isn't all that common in WA.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 10:38 AM
Sep 2013

I guess it wouldn't take too many instances of it to be number one. I wonder if they have those little infomercials up there: "Please don't love you're pets too much."

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
48. They must have used 2010 stats for tornadoes
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:51 PM
Sep 2013

in Minnesota. We had 113 tornadoes in Minnesota in 2010. This year we have had only about a half a dozen with zero injuries. I think Oklahoma has earned the honor of being the 'tornado' state, unless they don't wish to have that 'honor'. I still am saddened about the deaths in OKC.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
49. The worst thing about Washington is our tax system.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:54 PM
Sep 2013

Bill Gates pays less than 4% of his income in taxes, but a person in the bottom 15% of incomes pays 15%+ of his income.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
52. Surely that's an issue with the federal tax code
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:57 PM
Sep 2013

as Washington State doesn't have a state income tax.

 

lumberjack_jeff

(33,224 posts)
57. The reason that it is so regressive is BECAUSE we don't have a state income tax.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

It has nothing to do with the federal tax code.

http://www.itep.org/pdf/wa.pdf

Which is why, every time someone brings up "the benefits of the fair tax" I want to climb through my keyboard and strangle them.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
50. It's worth noting that a lot of Illinoisans travel to Wisconsin to do their binge drinking.
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 12:54 PM
Sep 2013

So the cheeseheads get a lot of help from us FIBs.

JPZenger

(6,819 posts)
55. Washington and Bestiality
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:08 PM
Sep 2013

Washington State received a great deal of bad press a few years ago. A group of guys had set up a ranch to have sex with horses. One of the guys died from internal injuries (please don't ask how). When police went to investigate, they tried to charge the guys. However, they discovered that Washington State had no laws against bestiality. Once publicized, it was addressed by the Legislature. The Police then tried to charge the guys with animal cruelty, but they said they couldn't because "the horses liked it."

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
56. I will take being known for taxes because I get SERVICES!
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:11 PM
Sep 2013

We have mass transportation, you can live without a car, We have parks and libraries and pulic schools that are not the best in the world but almost all very good, There are state departments to help me and we had ne of the few universal health care programs that people didn't know about. all in all, a diverse and interesting state.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
58. Suicide is indeed a problem here,
Wed Sep 25, 2013, 01:13 PM
Sep 2013

but I believe we also have South Dakota beat on sexual assaults unless the statistics have changed recently.

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