I see "future President" written on Chelsea's face and in her demeanor.

[kelliekat44]

Anyone else?

[onehandle]

1. Anyone over George P. Bush.

[TDale313]

2. While I genuinely like Chelsea...

I am not a huge fan of the political dynasty idea. I don't want any more Bushes as president, and could do without more Clintons. Even Hillary, frankly.

[Decaffeinated]

15. Exactly...

[mr clean]

36. +1

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

144. o.

[Scuba]

62. + another

[anneboleyn]

137. I am feeling that too -- no Bush or Clinton monarchies

[Jawja]

142. Agreed

No more Clinton's. No more Bushes.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Nope.

[Tx4obama]

4. Looking at her resume - I'd say NO.

[JustAnotherGen]

76. +1

[femmocrat]

5. I think she has a lot of her mother's mannerisms.

Facial expressions especially. She is a very impressive young woman.

[doc03]

6. If we need another Clinton she is the one I would want n/t

[AtomicKitten]

7. Hedge fund comes to mind. nt

[longship]

8. The US Presidency is not a god damn birth entitlement!

Our country fought a fucking revolutionary war to rid us of that thinking.

That's what I say.

[kelliekat44]

9. Never said it was. nt

[longship]

14. Then why promote Chelsea Clinton as a Presidential hopeful?

She has zero experience in politics other than her father and mother. The only reason why she's promoted is because she is Bill and Hillary's daughter.

Yes! I like her. But being the daughter of a President and a Secretary of State is not what I call qualification.

Again, there is no fucking birthright for office under our Constitution. On that basis alone I reject any such speculation.

Hell! Chelsea's never even stood for office, and people are already flapping their gums about her running for President. That's just delusional.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

17. I have a theory about that, but you have hit on some of it.

[woo me with science]

21. Very well said.

Thank you.

[Wilms]

23. "already flapping", indeed. For quite a while now, actually.

There is a cultural inclination toward the celebration of celebrity. And it drives a lot of aspects of society and even politics. A peoplemagazinification...including the ensuing drama.

[Dragonfli]

55. "there is no fucking birthright for office under our Constitution"

Don't ever tell that to graham4everything, he has like fifty years of predictions riding on that very premise.

Apologies to newer posters, you would have had to know the guy.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

120. "I love lamp!"

[RedCappedBandit]

64. +++

[X_Digger]

28. Fucking A. n/t

[LanternWaste]

81. Nor are genetics a disqualifying factor for the office of Presidency...

Nor are genetics a disqualifying factor for the office of Presidency...

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

[longship]

100. Just lack of political experience. That will do. nt

[truedelphi]

126. And boy does it ever help to have parents who

Have enabled the Big Bankers, and the Big Industrialists, through their activity with regards to NAFTA and the Bank Modernization Act.

[Romulox]

109. Except if you're born poor. Then it is a complete barrier. nt

[Orsino]

122. Perhaps they should be.

Installing dynasties for their own sake blocks qualified candidates not born to power. That's the opposite of democracy, and is in itself demonstrably bad.

[Zorra]

10. I saw the same thing written on the face of Cheryl Begay last week.

She's waiting tables at a cafe over in Flag, trying to save up enough money for college next year.

She's a good kid. Has future president written all over her face.

And she's not even close to being a 1 percenter.

[Lizzie Poppet]

20. First Dine' president? Sounds good!

I realize I'm making a big assumption based on her last name, of course...

[Zorra]

25. yes'm, good catch.

[City Lights]

11. Pass. nt

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Please, no more dynasties.

The presidency is not a hereditary office.

[Live and Learn]

43. +1 nt

[quinnox]

13. Nope. But I wouldn't mind to get Bill and Hillary back in

there.

[cui bono]

113. Ew!

Really???

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

16. Not really.

With a population above 300 million one might come to the conclusion that there are other candidates in America that can rise to the position of President whose name does not end in Bush or Clinton.

[Bonobo]

18. Does any part of you think that the automatic dynasty effect is just....wrong? nt

[LanternWaste]

82. No more wrong than the knee-jerk reaction that a family tree should automatically disqualify a poten

No more wrong than the melodramatic reaction that a family tree should automatically disqualify a potential candidate.

Seems to me that both point of view are equally short-sighted.

[Gravitycollapse]

19. ONE OF US. ONE OF US. GOOBLE GOBBLE. GOOBLE GOBBLE. WE ACCEPT HER. WE ACCEPT HER.

[fadedrose]

42. I saw a movie that did that line

I was about 8 or 9 I think, about a traveling circus and to be a part of it, you had to be accepted by the other == their words == not mine, freaks.

What was the name of that movie? I never totally forgot it....

[JHB]

63. As it happens, "Freaks"...

Last edited Thu Sep 26, 2013, 08:00 AM - Edit history (2)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freaks

Freaks is a 1932 American Pre-Code horror film about sideshow performers, directed and produced by Tod Browning and released by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, with a cast mostly composed of actual carnival (funfair) performers. The film was based on Tod Robbins' 1923 short fiction story "Spurs". Director Browning took the exceptional step of casting real people with deformities as the eponymous sideshow "freaks", rather than using costumes and makeup.[2][3]

Browning had been a member of a traveling circus in his early years, and much of the film was drawn from his personal experiences. In the film, the physically deformed "freaks" are inherently trusting and honorable people, while the real monsters are two of the "normal" members of the circus who conspire to murder one of the performers to obtain his large inheritance.

[fadedrose]

94. It had to be released after 1945...

because I wasn't born till '38. I saw the movie with friends with no adults with us so I had to be at least 7.

It was good, funny and sad, and was haunting. These pathetic creatures loved each other, and I felt "safe" with them, I remember that, but felt so sorry for them. The regular people were creepy. It might be the reason I learned to hate the word "freaks," and forgot why. I know now why, it was unkind. Doncha wonder how they got away with that title then? They couldn't do it now, thank goodness.

I sort of remember that even the paying customers made fun of them. Oooh.

I just played the You Tube bit, and it took me back. That lady did not enjoy the aspect that she was one of them.

Thanks for the memory, like BH always said....

[JHB]

96. Either you saw something that was recycling this one, or else...

... you saw a copy of this that was circulating (again? still?) in your area when you saw it. No way to tell without more digging than it's worth.

You're welcome for the memory

[JI7]

22. she is in her 30s and hasn't done much to show she wants or should be in elected office

and especially not President.

[bowens43]

24. No thank you , I have had my fill of Clintons and the like

[Nye Bevan]

26. Well, since we don't have a Royal Family,

something like that is the next best thing.

[Scootaloo]

27. I wouldn't write her off.

But she doesn't seem to even have a slight lean in that direction herself.

I'll stick with the likely candidates standing in 2016

[SheilaT]

29. If she has any electoral office ambitions

she's doing a very good job of hiding them.

No one comes from absolutely nowhere and runs for President. At least not and have any sort of chance at getting a major party nomination, let alone to win.

If she's thinking about the job, she needs to run for office somewhere. Really.

[davidpdx]

49. True, she maybe happy running the CGI long after her parents are gone

Her parents have both said they would be excited to be grandparents. She is fortunate enough she could do both CGI and be a mother.

[PoliticAverse]

30. Yeah, President of the Clinton Foundation. n/t

[davidn3600]

31. Can we stop with the dynasties?

[hrmjustin]

32. I think it depends on if her mother runs and wins.

[Marrah_G]

33. no

[kiawah]

34. Oh my God. Really?!

Out of 300 plus million people, we have to keep going to our "royal" family?

Jesus H. Fucking Christ - let's try to open up our minds even half way and not pick people based on the fact that they "look" presidential and have the "right" fucking genes!

[cui bono]

115. Welcome to DU!

I agree wholeheartedly!

[Orsino]

119. +1 n/t

[Steerpike]

35. I am against Republican Dynasties

Because in my personal experience they suck...

I would vote for Chelsea any day of the week. I think she is smart and charming. What more do you need?

[RC]

37. We need someone LEFT of Center for a change.

No more DLC, DINO's, War Hawks, 1%'ers, Wall Streeters, or Banksters.

[fletchthedubs]

89. Forgot the sarcasm tag I hope

[truebluegreen]

116. I hope so too. "Charming?"

[JaneyVee]

38. People complaining about dynasties??? How about judging each person

Based on their own merits? Ugh.

[Steerpike]

40. These people are very difficult to judge

and just like normal people they evolve and change, and not always for the best. So far in my lifetime it's always been a roll of the dice.

[winter is coming]

56. Okay, then, let's discuss her political experience and expressed interest in running for office.

Well, that didn't take long.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

59. I think that's an accusation it's fairer to level at advocates of a Chelsea Clinton presidency.

There are 3.5 x 10^8 people in America.

It's... theoretically possible... that if you took each of them on their own merits, the child of a previous president would turn out to be among the best candidates.

But it's far more likely that the people who think that are saying it largely because of who her parents are.

[Union Scribe]

80. Precisely. Excellent post. nt

[RedCappedBandit]

66. I agree. Let's just people on their merits.

Not on having a nice face and demeanor.

[treestar]

79. Agreed.

If Chelsea wants to go into politics, it should not be a black mark against her, either. Many of the Kennedys have served - that's how they see it.

[Romulox]

110. To which *other* 33 year old with no political experience are we comparing her?

[Ino]

39. Nope (nt)

[GreenStormCloud]

41. NO MORE DYNASTIES.

Just because here daddy is Bill Clinton and her momma is Hillary Clinton does not qualify her for anything. She hasn't been elected to anything and people are wanting her for President?

[PowerToThePeople]

46. This. Why?

[PoliticAverse]

52. Chelsea is married to an Ex-Goldman Sachs Investment Banker. That qualifies her... n/t

[xfundy]

44. I agree. Chelsea Manning stood up for the constitution.

[enough]

71. Thanks. (nt)

[winter is coming]

45. Nope. n/t

[Llewlladdwr]

47. I will not vote for another Clinton.

We have to stop this trend towards political dynasties. Not good for the nation.

[avaistheone1]

48. Chelsea Manning for President!

[Smarmie Doofus]

57. It makes more sense than OP. n/t

[dipsydoodle]

60. That thought occured to me too.

Aside from which extreme Chelsea fans are known as The Headhunters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Headhunters

[joshcryer]

50. I think she's intelligent but the President needs to be a civil servant.

One who's been in that position for most of their life (this is why Bush Jr was a shitty President).

She'd make a wonderful President, no doubt, but she doesn't have the background and would have to build it I think before I'd want her as a President.

[wundermaus]

51. Hopefully not in my lifetime...

When our leaders are nothing more than "royalty" then our great experiment (democracy) has truly failed.

[MADem]

53. No--she'd be doing something in government by now if that were the case.

She'd be working at STATE, or DEFENSE, or staffing for someone on the Hill, at least, if not serving in the legislature. Or involved in leadership in state government.

I think she's plenty smart, but I don't see that as her calling. I think she's more interested in the human condition on a global scale--which is why her work with the Global Initiative is probably her abiding area of interest, at least for now.

[LittleBlue]

54. This is pathetic

Do we have a monarchy now?

Chelsea in no way deserves to be considered for president, and neither does her mother. And for that matter, neither does Jeb or any of the Bush clan. These families should retire from politics.

[Smarmie Doofus]

58. Shouldn't she distinguish herself in some lesser capacity first?

You know... like president of her student council, or Chappaqua Town Clerk?

[Lee-Lee]

61. Is this politics, or team sports where you mindlessly support whatever brand?

"Woo Hoo Team Clinton!!! Yeah man, I've been a big fan since the Hot Springs days, not like these newbies who jumped on the bandwagon in '92"

A name is meaningless. What has she done to prove she is worth any support?

[RedCappedBandit]

65. I think it's a problem that people think people are qualified to run the country

based on their aesthetics and demeanor.

[JHB]

70. Yup. That's "prefer to have a beer with" thinking...

...and we all know what that can let in.

[JHB]

67. I think this sort of pining for New Camelot has been one of the most...

...debilitating influences on Democratic politics over the last four decades.

[GeorgeGist]

68. Super

Silly.

[bemildred]

69. Nepotism is so unimaginative. nt

[Iggo]

72. Oh, come on.

[HappyMe]

73. I don't think so.

If she wanted anything to do with politics, she would already be trying to get elected to a local office.

[cali]

74. What is wrong with you???

[bigwillq]

75. I hope not

NO more Clinton's, please.

[treestar]

77. I'd rather someone who comes up through that ranks

Like her Dad, or Barack Obama or Jimmy Carter.

Though, if she does put in her dues, I don't reject her completely.

[LWolf]

78. Good Lord.

Why did we fight a Revolutionary War, again? I've forgotten.

Something about taxation without representation...something about getting rid of monarchy?

Chelsea Clinton is not Princess Diana, and this country does not need Presidential dynasties.

[Bluenorthwest]

83. Chelsea Clinton? Uh, no. She's very smart and I like her but I see 'not running for office'

in her demeanor and in her behavior as political surrogate to her mother. In fact I'd say she'd not run for President, maybe for the Senate but I really doubt it.

[MineralMan]

84. Not me. Let her run for some office and we'll see

how she does. Right now, we know nothing about her abilities as an elected person. We should not choose our elected officials on any basis other than performance in office.

If she wants that job, she needs to start earning it. Her name is not enough.

[tularetom]

85. I see the same thing in my great granddaughter

She's five.

But she's shown exactly as much aptitude and interest in being president as Chelsea (zero, zilch, nada, jack shit), so why not?

[Phentex]

86. No. She seems a little too...

smart for such a thing.

[Capt. Obvious]

87. She needs to wait her turn

Jenna & Barbara Bush are next.

[Generic Other]

88. I see "future president" written on Jimmy Carter's grandson's face and actions

He at least deserves credit for helping derail the Romney train by publicising his offensive fundraising speech. At least Carter put himself at risk politically to help Obama win re-election.

That being said, I find this whole thread pointless and silly. I will not support any attempts to clone former presidents by replicating their DNA in office. We have direct firsthand evidence how harmful such action can be. How soon we forget the shrub. And what of the fruit of Cheney's loins? How soon is that mutation going to throw her vile DNA into the race?

And look what happened when they tried to make a senator out of Caroline Kennedy. She was bumbling and inarticulate. Inherited dynastic wishful thinking on someone's part. Ridiculous.

I'd sooner vote for Brittney Spears.

[kelliekat44]

93. I don't disagree with you. I never said I support "dynasties" either. I merely expressed my op.

I have heard Chelsea speak in several different forums. She is poised, smart and has a heart for service. Being a Clinton should not disqualify her from public office if she decides to run for any office.

[Sissyk]

140. Don't you think she should have some

kind of experience?

I mean poised, smart, and has a heart for service may qualify her for the peace corp. But, President? I don't think so!

[fadedrose]

95. When I ask folks why they think Hillary is most qualified to be President

They say, her experience as an attorney, first lady, governor, senator, and S of S makes her the best qualified, without reservations. Also she is very smart.

Chelsea is very smart. No experience. What would Hill's response be to that if asked? "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?, and don't ask again!!!."

[JHB]

134. If I recall correctly, if Bill hadn't been the nominee and another Democrat...

...had won the general election, Hillary would have been on the short list for potentials for Attorney General.

[fadedrose]

135. Another + for Hillary, but

my post was about Chelsea's qualifications and how her mother will stick up for her...

[bighart]

97. Based on what qualifications?

[bunnies]

98. Gawds help us.

[bobduca]

99. trolling for "Clinton bashers"?

Why not go all the way and just become a colony again? Perhaps Chelsea can re-marry into the British family.

[Douglas Carpenter]

101. I have no idea what Chelsea Clinton's position is on any issue. I only care about candidates on the

basis of their positions on issues. I really think that electing office holders should have at least a little bit more depth than voting for prom king and queen. I really do.

[HangOnKids]

102. Written on her face?

She needs to wash it off, how dare anyone write on her face!!!!!

[cui bono]

114. Hey, I'm not responsible for what I do after we've had a few and the other person

has passed out.

[HangOnKids]

118. Her demeanor is going to be pissed! n/t

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

127. In which case Jeb Jr. is probably passed out somewhere with "Future President", a giant cock and a

Hello Kitty written on his.





.

[HangOnKids]

128. Please stop!

Laughing out loud at work is frowned upon!

[Generic Other]

143. Does it look like this?

[Douglas Carpenter]

103. post like this make me ashamed of this forum and fearful of the future

[Divernan]

104. No, and here's why (Part One)

The American dream of owning your own home is still alive! Chelsea and Marc just
purchased a $10.5 million "home" with 6 bathrooms for 2 adults.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2346656/Chelsea-Clinton-husband-marital-home-market-4-5m-dollars-settle-life-bigger-condo-bought-recently-10-5m-dollars.html

Their new residence lays claim to being one of New York's longest apartments - stretching an entire block from 26th St. to 27th St. off Madison Avenue.

Described as 'a luxury fortress' with one full-time doorman to the horizontal building's four units, it takes almost 30 seconds to walk the 250-foot hallway, according to New York Daily News.

The four-bedroom, 5,000-square-foot apartment is located in The Whitman building next to Madison Square Park, one of the most desirable corners of Manhattan's Flatiron District. The building, which is being marketed by Douglas Elliman Real Estate, has one apartment on each floor and boasts various security features, including a key operated lift and a full time doorman for just four units.

The nearly 90-year-old building has just three $10million homes and one $22.5million duplex penthouse - so far two buyers are in contract, including Ms Clinton.

The couple will also enjoy two dishwashers, two washer/dryers, his and her maze-like closet spaces and commodes, as well as natural light flooding the female dressing room - with double-sided vanity mirrors.

'Wives eyes light up when they see the closets,' said Ms Lazenby, the daughter of James Bond actor George Lazenby.

'They smile and say they'll need more clothes to live here. Their husbands just shake their heads.

'The long apartment, located at 21 East 26th St enables 'one spouse to be fast asleep while the other has a huge dinner party. All on one floor,' she added.

One person who toured the building, which was built in 1924 by luxury textile manufacturer Clarence B. Whitman & Sons, joked that residents of The Whitman will have a longer walk to their kitchen than many New Yorkers have to the corner store.


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/real-estate/madison-sq-park-condo-attracts-big-names-chelsea-clinton-article-1.1324579

[Divernan]

105. Here's why, Part II

I researched and wrote this in reply to a question as to why I was picking on poor Chelsea, because "there are far more expensive residences in NYC"

I'm so glad you asked!

(1)Because some here promote the idea that she will go into politics also, so we need to take a close look at how she chooses to live her life.

(2) She has sought publicity, whether in exclusive interviews and glamour photo shoots for high end mags like Vanity Fair and Vogue or on this current highly photographed trip with her father.

But most significantly, because it's worth looking at where the money for this lavishly extravagant purchase came from. (And you're wrong if you think there are 30-something couples purchasing "far wealthier residences in Manhattan - but I'll get to that later.)

(3) The money to purchase this came from where? You say, not "public funds". I say that the vast wealth of this young couple stems from their jobs, their families or some combination thereof. And all of those link back to the connections made by their parents while holding public office, which offices were funded by we taxpayers. Marc's' jobs were at hedge fund 3G Capital & investment banking for Goldman Sachs. (Unlike many people fleeced by scams backed by Wall Street firms like Goldman Sachs, he likely did not use a balloon note to pay for the $4 million apt. he bought in 2008, or the more recent $10.5 Million place.)

Post Palo Alto,Chelsea opted to join a private international consulting firm, McKinsey and Company and then a hedge fund, specifically the Avenue Capital Group, big campaign donors for both her parents. These firms hire young people with connections - and this young couple definitely had blue chip family connections.

Marc's father was heir to a small supermarket chain fortune, but none of the 3 other in-laws were millionaires when they went into politics. They accumulated their wealth when they left office. (Marc's mother was a Congresswoman who is still talking about running for office again.) Marc's father, Edward, former congressman and head of Pennsylvania's Democratic party, lost millions and ended up penniless. He was convicted of fraud and served time in federal prison for shady business deals that had prosecutors calling him a "one-man crime wave." Prosecutors claimed that in 20 years of doing business between 1980 and 2000, every single deal he consummated displayed aspects of fraud. After his indictment in 2001, he pleaded guilty to 31 charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud. He tried to raise a defense of diminished capacity due to his suffering from bipolar disorder, but the judge disallowed it.

On Sept. 27,2002, he admitted that he bilked investors who handed over more than $10 million, including friends, law clients and even his late mother-in-law, and was sentenced to nearly 7 years in prison. Some tried to paint this as though he was the victim of scams. It started out that way, with him losing his own money - but then he kept doubling down and losing money of any one he could talk into "investing" with him. His rip-off of almost $10 million (ironic - there's that $10 million number agani!) got him seven years in ClubFed . He and his wife, Marc Mezvinsky's mother, eventually divorced. He reportedly is estranged from his son. http://congressionalbadboys.com/Mezvinsky.htm

Ed Mezvinsky got out of the federal lock-up in 2008. He remained on federal probation through 2011, and still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims. So safe to say the young couple got no financial help from him.
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Edward-Mezvinsky/242942968


But getting back to parental connections stemming from holding elected offices, leading to very high paying first jobs, I'd call that "public funds" once removed.

I think one's choice of employment, especially when one is not faced with grabbing the first minimum wage job that comes along in order to survive, says a lot about one's character. And I think her recent move to pick up a master's in public health is a stragetgic move to improve her credentials for an eventual run for public office. She's not out working at some grotty public health office, "in the field" - she's doing occasional broadcasts for NBC. She is also teaching graduate level classes at Columbia - unprecedented for someone who does not have a Ph.D. to be teaching at the graduate level! Another boost to the resume and example of how she benefits from her parents' prestige/status.

"Hedge funds as they are now constituted were illegal from 1933 to 2000, as their type of activity was outlawed as it was considered as destabilizing speculation that helped cause the Great Depression. In the year 2000, Bill Clinton turned his back on 67 years of proven financial regulation and signed a bill legitimating speculation. Hillary was running for the U.S. Senate in the State of New York, Moloch's Big Town, and needed the big bucks from the free-booting financiers.

Hedge funds have been major financial backers of Democratic candidates ever since Bill Clinton made like Abe Lincoln, the Great Emancipator, and set them free. Chelsea's mother Hillary received mucho hedge fund loot during her 2008 bid for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Hedge fund managers hedge their bets, and they also heavily backed Barack Obama, who rewarded them with a watered down "financial reform" bill that left hedge funds unmolested and hedge fund mangers' incomes taxed at the lower capital gains tax rate.


(Do we all recall former Goldman Sachs trading desk honcho Rahm Emmanul became President Obama's chief of staff, whilst his Supreme Court nominee, Elena Kagan, worked as a paid "adviser" to the financial power house? Goldman Sachs is what J.P. Morgan and the House of Morgan and Paul Mellon and the Mellon Bank were to Republican Administrations in previous years, the marionette master who pulls the strings.)

As predicted by naysayers, within seven years of Clinton legitimating financial speculation, hedge funds and other speculative financial schemes helped bring the U.S. economy back on its knees in the worse political catastrophe since the Great Depression.

Since it was Bill Clinton's "centrist" Democratic Leadership Council that sold the soul of the Democratic Party to Wall Street, it is fitting that Chelsea Clinton should be marrying the son of a convicted felon who works for the titan of Wall Street, a firm that engages in legal robbery. It recently got off easy from double dealing in the subprime mortgage market.

It was recently revealed that Goldman Sachs, the poster child for Wall Street arrogance and cupidity, used some of its bail-out funds to finance overseas operations. Gobs of taxpayer-provided dollars were used to fund its bonus pools, making employees like Marc Mezvinsky very happy indeed. Wall Street perpetrated a massive fraud on America, made possible in part by Marc Mezvinsky's future father-in-law, but got away relatively scot-free, unlike his own father.


http://voices.yahoo.com/who-marc-mezvinsky-chelsea-clintons-husband-is-6490028.html?cat=49

[Divernan]

106. Here's why, Part III

Just how typical is it for a 30-something couple to spend $10 mil on a Manhattan apt?

Last edited Tue Aug 6, 2013, 06:56 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)
Poster Beacool asked me upthread: "Why did you choose Chelsea and Marc as an example? . . .There are far wealthier residences in Manhattan." I beg to differ that other 30-something couples are spending over $10 million on apartments, and below are the reports showing median prices tend to be about ONE TENTH OF THAT AMOUNT, i.e, from $750,000 to $1.26 million, depending upon what part of the City you're in, and even in the luxury apartments, i.e,. the top tenth of all sales by price, the median price is "only" $4.2 million.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-02/manhattan-apartment-prices-climb-as-buyers-compete.html

The median price of all co-ops and condominiums which changed hands in the 3 months through March 31, 2012 was $820,555.
On the Upper West side, the median price of condo resales climbed 20 percent to $1.26 million, while co-op resale prices rose 4 percent to $730,000, Corcoran said.

Prices declined on the Upper East Side, with the median for previously owned condos falling 3 percent from a year earlier to $975,000, Corcoran said. Co-op prices dropped 17 percent to $726,000, as lower-priced studios and one-bedrooms made up more than half of all sales, according to Corcoran.

Listings for luxury apartments, the top 10 percent of all sales by price, didn’t decline as sharply as the broader market as owners were inspired to try their luck after record prices paid for co-ops and condos in 2012, Miller said. Luxury listings fell 15 percent to 1,025, Miller Samuel and Douglas Elliman said, while the median price of completed deals fell 2.7 percent to $4.02 million.

Now granted, there are a few extreme outliers in the price range, but the owners are not 30-something years of age

Steven A. Cohen, the billionaire founder of SAC Capital Advisors LP, is seeking to sell his 10,000-square-foot (930- square-meter) duplex at One Beacon Court for $115 million, two people familiar with the matter said last week.
Steven A. Cohen (born June 11, 1956) is an American hedge fund manager. He is the founder of SAC Capital Advisors, a Stamford, Connecticut-based hedge fund focusing primarily on equity market strategies. (More of that hedge fund money!)

He has an estimated net worth of $9.3 billion as of March 2013, ranked by Forbes as the 106th richest man in the world. Cohen is 35th overall in the U.S. In November 2012, he began to be implicated in a large criminal insider trading scandal. In July 2013, SAC was charged by the Securities and Exchange Commission with failing to prevent insider trading.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_A._Cohen

Then there's a triplex penthouse at the Pierre hotel that belonged to Martin Zweig, who predicted the 1987 stock market crash, is also on the market, for $125 million, the New York Times reported March 29.

Life More: Real Estate New York City
Late Investor Martin Zweig's Penthouse Hits The Market For A Record $125 Million

Wikipedia
Weeks after it was rumored to be headed for market, we now know that late investor Martin Zweig's legendary penthouse apartment atop the Pierre in New York City will be listed for $125 million, the New York Times' Robin Finn reports.

While the listing has yet to appear, the $125 million price tag makes it the most expensive home for sale in New York City. It narrowly beats a midtown apartment owned by Steve Cohen, which the SAC honcho is reportedly selling for $115 million.

So what does $125 million buy you at the fabled hotel?

According to Finn, the penthouse is "a triplex confection graced by a grand black-marble staircase, arched cathedral windows that replicate a Versailles chapel, 23-foot ceilings, and fireplaces embraced by mantels designed in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries."


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/martin-zweig-penthouse-listed-for-125m-2013-3#ixzz2bEQkZaFa

In new developments, the inventory of apartments fell 42 percent in the first quarter from a year earlier, Miller Samuel and Douglas Elliman said. The median sale price climbed 36 percent to $1.33 million.

[woo me with science]

107. Thank you.

[Divernan]

112. You're very welcome.

I put a lot of effort into researching and documenting these posts, and I plan to respond with them every time I see a post pushing Chelsea Clinton for elected office. She is a member of and lives the lifestyle of a one percenter. We all know which party is favored by that crew.

[bvar22]

133. Looks like Chelsea would make a fine representative of the 1%,

.....just like her parents.



You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS.[/font]

[Sissyk]

141. Awesome research!

Thank you!

[Myrina]

123. Wow ... "'Wives eyes light up when they see the closets"

... "husbands just shake their heads" ...


Sexist much, Ms. Lazenby??

[Divernan]

129. Tells you the typical One Percent couples with that kind of money to spend.

Realtors know what sells, and with that kind of uber-luxury, over-the-top even for Manhattan, "residence", I think the realtor has a clear-eyed view of potential buyers. As the other facts I provided detail, 2 career couples in their 30's are not at all the typical buyers.

[Myrina]

130. Not just there ...

... I remember when I was looking to buy my first house (I'm single) ... all the realtor could talk about was 'closet space' and 'the renovated kitchen'. I'm thinking ... show me the furnace? What kind of shelving is in the garage? How old is the roof?

Comments that make women seem like "1950's home makers" just really hit me the wrong way.

[Romulox]

108. $$$$$$$$$$ nt

[Romulox]

111. kelliekat44anything. nt

[Pretzel_Warrior]

117. I'm sure you are doing that just to get a rise out of the people with Clinton fatigue. :D

you naughty naughty person.

[Orsino]

121. Bearing a strong resemblance to one's biological parents isn't a job qualification. n/t

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

124. Get back to me when her face appears on a tortilla or underpass.

[Myrina]

125. Nope.

n/t

[PeteSelman]

131. No. Not interested in any more Clintons.

A genuine progressive would be nice.

[Agnosticsherbet]

132. We are not a Monarchy....

The vast amount of accumulated wealth that is on inherited wealth endangers the nation with its shift to oligarchy. I am opposed to her running, simply because her father, and perhaps her mother, managed to get elected. I am opposed to Jeb Bush having a third Bush Presidency. Former Presidents retain enormous power. I think it is a bad thing to focus power into the hands into families.

I would oppose a law stopping close relatives of Presidents from running. But I don't support it.

[Codeine]

136. Jesus fuck. Can we stop trying to create a fucking dynasty? nt

[Boom Sound 416]

138. Nope

[cordelia]

139. No