Well Hawaii's healthcare site sure knows how to keep the curious out of the exchange website.

[dkf]

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Why isn't a cost estimator the first thing I see?

Maybe if the Feds had organized it we would have had consistently decent web design. As it was I looped around and around trying to find out where I was going.

No I didn't want to give all my info and be contacted personally...I just wanted to punch in some numbers to see how it all works.

Geez.

On edit: The plans aren't ready yet and that's why there is no cost estimator. Thanks to chowder66 below for the info.

[Joel thakkar]

1. Try CA Website

coveredca.com

[NYC_SKP]

2. Different plans in each state. nt

[PoliticAverse]

27. And also locally within the state (rural areas typically having higher prices than metro areas). n/t

[NYC_SKP]

40. Rural is higher?

Huh. I'd have thought maybe the opposite, given costs of doing business, rents, etc.

[PoliticAverse]

42. Or more choices/competition in metro areas so it's easier for insurance organizations to find lower

priced health care providers for their networks.

[dkf]

4. Insurance costs differ from state to state.

I'm curious who is in our network and how many doctors are in, what the different coverages look like, what are the copays etc. Realistically can I say my employer would never seek to cut costs by dropping health care? I honestly have no idea. Once a competitor does it they all could.

[PoliticAverse]

28. Yes it is important to check the doctors in the network including finding out if listed doctors

in your area are actually accepting new patients.

[dkf]

30. Lots of footwork to be done on this.

I feel for a person who has never had insurance trying figure this all out. As a rule of thumb avoiding the lowest cost provider might be a good strategy. I have a feeling their network will be overwhelmed.

[whttevrr]

3. Hawaii?

So jealous...

[dkf]

6. Our employer mandate is already much better than the Federal version.

20+ hours and employers need to provide coverage. Our health care laws are exempt from parts of the ACA.

But the cost of living is atrocious. $650,000 median house price and that's not a big house either. Highest electricity prices, gas prices.

Crazy.

[KamaAina]

5. Happy to kokua

(help)

http://www.hawaiihealthconnector.com/help-center/national-subsidy-calculator-kaiser-family-foundation/

[dkf]

8. Thanks...Yes I tried it but it won't tell me anything unless I apply?

I don't want to apply. I just want to see what is there.

[Puzzledtraveller]

7. Maybe they don't want people to know until they've come too far in the application process.

"Wha?! it isn't free?!

Yes, I already had a client like that today.

[KT2000]

9. what if teabags

were trying to sink the site? Anymore one has to prepare for such things. It is a way of keeping open the site for people who will use it.

[dkf]

10. Dos attack? Are they numerous enough to do so with normal searches?

[KT2000]

11. Possibly - remember

that Hawaii has been deluged with searches for Obama's birth records.
Unfortunately we have a bunch of super-committed destroyers among us. The Koch brothers, through surrogates, say jump and they do - as in repeated searches!

[msanthrope]

12. That is concerning. nt

[dkf]

13. Frankly people without insurance probably could do with advice from people in the system.

This is about friends and family being advocates and helping to educate. Beats me why it isn't an open book in a process that supposedly uses information based decision making.

[msanthrope]

18. That is another concern. nt

[Ikonoklast]

14. I am concerned over your concern for the OP.

Op is full of consternation, and your concern over that level of concern concerns me no end.


Or is just doing what he does best.



Anyone care for some Republican Punch, it's got fresh turds in it!

[msanthrope]

17. I'm so concerned I'm going to need a free abortion or an ACA death panel.

I'm concerned about the safety of my little kittens too.... I think they got caught in a cave.

[jberryhill]

26. Maybe the safety kitten had quintuplets

[msanthrope]

36. I thought trolls came from rocks? nt

[arthritisR_US]

15. For those who are not paranoid and truly in need

of it and not just gratuitously curious, I'm sure it works fine for them.

[kestrel91316]

16. Bitch, bitch, bitch. You must be a real joy to be around IRL.

[dkf]

22. Yes when I pay as much taxes as I do I expect results.

[Ikonoklast]

41. Must not expect results from whoever advises you on taxes.

[Kingofalldems]

19. BTW, what is the republican health plan?

I have yet to find one.

[dkf]

23. This is the Republican health plan. It always has been.

That's why it sucks

[Kingofalldems]

24. Howcome they all voted against it?

[dkf]

34. Hypocrites.

[tridim]

37. That's why it's called BushCare, obviously!!!111

LOL @ dkf trying to downplay our victory.

[Kingofalldems]

39. Boom.

[chowder66]

20. Hawaii isn't ready and working on it

http://www.khon2.com/2013/10/01/hawaii-health-exchange-no-plan-buying-for-now/

[dkf]

25. Oooooh. Well that explains it. Thanks!

[Myrina]

21. I got kicked off the Fed site for not validating my email addy in less than 2 minutes ...

.... keep in mind, of course, that I sat in the 'hold' queue for over an hour waiting to GET to the 'enroll' page.

[dkf]

32. There is a "hold" queue? Wow.

I can't say I've ever been in one of those for an online site.

[Myrina]

35. The first page says something like "We have alot of visitors, please stay ..."

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... and apparently when the load balances, it redirects you to the 'sign up/log in' page.

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I got thru all of that, answered the security questions and it sent me the auto-validate email.
I clicked the link in the email to validate my account & it spun for a couple minutes, then errored out saying I didn't respond quickly enough, please start over.

[Skip Intro]

29. I've gotten error message after error message in SC (fed exchange).

Couldn't get anywhere yesterday - server not available, please wait we're busy, etc.

Today I finally got to the point of getting a confirmation email after signing up. In that email was a link that supposedly would take me to the exchange. Instead I got an "Access Denied" page. So I went back to try to log on in a different window, after waiting, and got "info you entered isn't accurate." So I tried again, same info I just used, same username and password I had just tried, and got "Downstream Error."

Like you, I just want to see what options I have and how much it will cost, then I can decide to opt in or opt out and pay the fine, and still be without insurance. Maybe tomorrow...

[dkf]

31. My website is up, maybe because there are no details...

Therefore the stay is short and the network is not overwhelmed.

Oh the irony.

[dkf]

33. So for working website you need an ID and password to get info?

Why can't we just mess around in it without giving our info?

[Skip Intro]

38. I agree. We should be able to just see the nubmers,

without having to enter personal info. I didn't enter any identifying info anyway. But even after doing that, I still can't see the numbers.