The CR is almost a moot point...it's debt ceiling time.

[dkf]

The CR is a mini shut down compared to not approving raising the debt limit.

And the smaller the next increase in the debt limit, the shorter the time when we will need to address this again.

We are set up for annual games of chicken. Ugh.

[The Magistrate]

1. So Which Side Are You On, Ma'am?

[dkf]

3. I'm on the side of reality.

[The Magistrate]

6. Really, Ma'am?

Do enlighten us concerning what the reality of the present political confrontation might be....

[Kingofalldems]

11. Good question.

[The Magistrate]

13. Apparently, Sir, This 'Reality' Is 'Democrats Must Cave To Tea-Baggers'

Find a course that will hurt the Democratic Party and President Obama, that will damage the country and its people in the long run, that will cause a maximum of dissension and emotional heat here in this forum, and you may depend upon posts calling that course necessary and in accord with reality being put up by the person who commenced this thread....

[Kingofalldems]

15. Yep

[msanthrope]

16. You Better Believe It! nt

[DireStrike]

2. A debt limit default would tank the economy.

You would see big money moving on it fast if it looked like we were going to default.

As for the strategy for next time... well, this is why you don't bargain in good faith with extremists. I don't know how to get out of it, other than to stop bargaining.

[dkf]

4. How can you not bargain when they are responsible for funding the government?

You can't ignore the House.

[DireStrike]

5. Well, 72% blame Republicans right now.

That has to mean something... right?

[dkf]

7. Apparently not. Their constituents are just like them.

[DireStrike]

8. Well, like I said, hell if I know what to do now.

The Democrats shouldn't have been acting as if these people were rational all these years.

[dkf]

9. Can't be helped. They are in office and we are stuck with them.

Like we were stuck with George W Bush, worst president ever.

[doc03]

10. It seems to me Democrats have put us in a bad possition to solve

this mess. From what I understand the Democrats have givin them the Ryan Budget. So now the Republicans are demanding more or
else. I think they will walk out of this with even more cuts. Chained CPI? Medicare cuts? Keystone? ? ? Remember the last time after
all the dust settled Boner said I got 95% of what I wanted. I think the Democrats put us in a lose lose possition.

[ProSense]

12. How is it "moot" for the people still being hurt by the shutdown? n/t

[Kingofalldems]

14. I guess we should just do what the republicans say--

They'll tell us what to do.

And eventually put Ayn Rand's picture on the dollar bill.