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meow2u3

(24,773 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:10 PM Oct 2013

The real reason repukes won't budge on the shutdown: PRIDE

WASHINGTON -- With the government shutdown in its fifth day, many Republicans have conceded the fight is no longer about Obamacare. Rep. Dennis Ross (R-Fla.) added his name to the list on Saturday, saying the matter now boils down to "pride."

“Republicans have to realize how many significant gains we’ve made over the last three years, and we have, not only in cutting spending but in really turning the tide on other things," Ross told The New York Times. "We can’t lose all that when there’s no connection now between the shutdown and the funding of Obamacare."

"I think now it’s a lot about pride," he added.

The fight over keeping the government open began with Republicans insisting that any funding bill include anti-Obamacare provisions, starting with a full-fledged campaign led by Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) to defund the health care law. When that plan was rejected by the Senate, House Republicans offered a series of spending bills that continued to chip away at Obamacare; their final offer included a one-year delay of the law's individual mandate and a ban on federal health care subsidies to members of Congress and their staffs.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/05/dennis-ross-government-shutdown_n_4050231.html

What's that saying about pride and fall (not the season)? Rethugs put their egos ahead of the good of the country!

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The real reason repukes won't budge on the shutdown: PRIDE (Original Post) meow2u3 Oct 2013 OP
I think the teapary driving this is pushing to collapse the Federal Government. Agnosticsherbet Oct 2013 #1
I agree... tulsakatz Oct 2013 #2
Pride goeth before the fall. Rex Oct 2013 #3

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
1. I think the teapary driving this is pushing to collapse the Federal Government.
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:28 PM
Oct 2013

They get rid of that pesky socialist nanny sate thy like to complain about.

tulsakatz

(3,122 posts)
2. I agree...
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:31 PM
Oct 2013

it's why that guy Stutzman said they had to get something out of it! Because a very large majority of voters blame them for this insanity....if they wind up getting all of this anger for nothing, they come off looking like the idiots they are!!

In a NY Times editorial, they wrote:

Republicans are now simply flailing. Because they lack any plausible explanation for their irresponsible conduct in creating and prolonging the government shutdown, they are inventing new demands by the hour.

“Defund Obamacare!” they cried at the beginning, stating their condition for reopening the government. Then they moved to delaying health care reform, delaying the individual mandate and repealing one of the health care law’s taxes. Then they started talking about another grand bargain on the budget, tax reform and entitlement cuts. When nothing worked, they simplified their ransom note, saying President Obama and the Democrats had to sit down with them and negotiate something, or anything.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/05/opinion/now-republicans-want-a-dialogue.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20131005&_r=0


They just want something, they don't know (& probably don't care, at this point) what this is....they just want something to make their insane demands look more legitimate so that they don't lose absolutely everything in 2014!!!
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