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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:10 PM Oct 2013

The Truth About Obamacare and How It Solves the Suffering of the Insured

The Truth About Obamacare and How It Solves the Suffering of the Insured

By Kurt Eichenwald

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Normally, I would start this discussion by providing chapter-and-verse details about the 47 million men, women, and children who now have the opportunity to obtain health insurance, to live longer and healthier lives, to avoid needless bankruptcies. But, in what to me is one of the saddest developments in our nation’s history, that reality is irrelevant to ardent Obamacare opponents. Words like “takers” and “slackers” are thrown at the uninsured, as if they have brought their pre-existing conditions, jobs without benefits, or low-paying positions on themselves. One Tea Party type I spoke with actually said the way to solve the health-care problem would be for the lazy uninsured just to take jobs that provide insurance benefits—as if there were tens of millions of such employment opportunities out there, unfilled. It’s the kind of simplistic answer that allows for the willfully blind to ignore the realities of the uninsured.

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Ugly, ugly stuff. And don’t forget, this does not include the increase in local taxes that goes toward paying the remaining portion of the bill for the uninsured.

How, you may wonder, do the subsidies that Obamacare provides to the folks unable to afford insurance on their own compare with those numbers? Well, remember, in 2005, the total amount of uncompensated care that had to be covered by taxpayers and the insured was $43 billion; in 2014, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that total exchange subsidies will be $35 billion. In 2010, the estimate of total uncompensated care was in excess of $60 billion; the total amount of subsidies for 2015 is estimated at $62 billion...the price paid by the insured because of others’ lack of insurance is not just monetary. In fact—if you have insurance—the more uninsured who live in your community, the lower the quality of care you receive. Again—if more people in your community are uninsured, your care will be worse. In other words, if you want to go to the places with the worst medical care, hightail it to states like Texas that are fighting Obamacare, making it difficult for their residents to figure out how to use the Obamacare insurance exchanges, and refusing to expand Medicaid. The insured folks in that state will get worse care than one with more people insured.

Before quoting anyone on that, follow the logic. Hospitals don’t have poverty wards; if a patient comes in the door in bad shape, they don’t do a wallet biopsy before deciding what care that person should receive—everyone at a hospital receives the same quality. But if a community has a higher number of uninsured, that means the latest and greatest technology and treatments will drive up the amounts of unreimbursed care. In essence, hospitals that provide the best, most modern, and most expensive treatments in an area with lots of uninsured will be forced to pass unsustainable amounts of cost to their prices. Insurance companies won’t pay it, local governments won’t finance it, and the hospitals will go out of business.

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http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/10/truth-obamacare-already-insured

Vanity Fair's Blockbuster Part 2 in Obamacare series: The truth!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/05/1244504/-Vanity-Fair-s-Blockbuster-Part-2-in-Obamacare-series-The-truth

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The Truth About Obamacare and How It Solves the Suffering of the Insured (Original Post) ProSense Oct 2013 OP
Kick! n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #1
The simple fact of trying to get folks to understand when someone goes to a hospital without Thinkingabout Oct 2013 #2
Thank you! Cha Oct 2013 #3
Oh and thanks for the heads up on Cha Oct 2013 #4
You're welcome. ProSense Oct 2013 #5
It's huge, and the societal repercussions of not having workers held hostage by employers over Warren DeMontague Oct 2013 #6
Yup! n/t ProSense Oct 2013 #7

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. The simple fact of trying to get folks to understand when someone goes to a hospital without
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:59 PM
Oct 2013

Insurance the cost is passed on to tax payers and the insured since health care facilities can not afford to treat everyone without collecting funds to keep the doors open. I try to show the example of Social Security people, the average check is $1200, out of this amount $104 is collected for Medicare, these are not rich people but they still have other expenses to cover. If Social Security people can pay for Medicare then others can also pay. This would make health care premiums go down more.

Thanks for your postings.

Cha

(318,967 posts)
4. Oh and thanks for the heads up on
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:08 PM
Oct 2013

the fact that DU is offering this Avatar, ProSense, !

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
6. It's huge, and the societal repercussions of not having workers held hostage by employers over
Sat Oct 5, 2013, 10:14 PM
Oct 2013

health coverage, will reverberate into greater abilities for lower and middle level employees to bargain or change jobs.

That's a reason- one BIG reason- they've been so desperate to stop it.

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