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By Kurt Eichenwald
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Normally, I would start this discussion by providing chapter-and-verse details about the 47 million men, women, and children who now have the opportunity to obtain health insurance, to live longer and healthier lives, to avoid needless bankruptcies. But, in what to me is one of the saddest developments in our nations history, that reality is irrelevant to ardent Obamacare opponents. Words like takers and slackers are thrown at the uninsured, as if they have brought their pre-existing conditions, jobs without benefits, or low-paying positions on themselves. One Tea Party type I spoke with actually said the way to solve the health-care problem would be for the lazy uninsured just to take jobs that provide insurance benefitsas if there were tens of millions of such employment opportunities out there, unfilled. Its the kind of simplistic answer that allows for the willfully blind to ignore the realities of the uninsured.
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Ugly, ugly stuff. And dont forget, this does not include the increase in local taxes that goes toward paying the remaining portion of the bill for the uninsured.
How, you may wonder, do the subsidies that Obamacare provides to the folks unable to afford insurance on their own compare with those numbers? Well, remember, in 2005, the total amount of uncompensated care that had to be covered by taxpayers and the insured was $43 billion; in 2014, the Congressional Budget Office estimates that total exchange subsidies will be $35 billion. In 2010, the estimate of total uncompensated care was in excess of $60 billion; the total amount of subsidies for 2015 is estimated at $62 billion...the price paid by the insured because of others lack of insurance is not just monetary. In factif you have insurancethe more uninsured who live in your community, the lower the quality of care you receive. Againif more people in your community are uninsured, your care will be worse. In other words, if you want to go to the places with the worst medical care, hightail it to states like Texas that are fighting Obamacare, making it difficult for their residents to figure out how to use the Obamacare insurance exchanges, and refusing to expand Medicaid. The insured folks in that state will get worse care than one with more people insured.
Before quoting anyone on that, follow the logic. Hospitals dont have poverty wards; if a patient comes in the door in bad shape, they dont do a wallet biopsy before deciding what care that person should receiveeveryone at a hospital receives the same quality. But if a community has a higher number of uninsured, that means the latest and greatest technology and treatments will drive up the amounts of unreimbursed care. In essence, hospitals that provide the best, most modern, and most expensive treatments in an area with lots of uninsured will be forced to pass unsustainable amounts of cost to their prices. Insurance companies wont pay it, local governments wont finance it, and the hospitals will go out of business.
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http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/10/truth-obamacare-already-insured
Vanity Fair's Blockbuster Part 2 in Obamacare series: The truth!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/10/05/1244504/-Vanity-Fair-s-Blockbuster-Part-2-in-Obamacare-series-The-truth
ProSense
(116,464 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Insurance the cost is passed on to tax payers and the insured since health care facilities can not afford to treat everyone without collecting funds to keep the doors open. I try to show the example of Social Security people, the average check is $1200, out of this amount $104 is collected for Medicare, these are not rich people but they still have other expenses to cover. If Social Security people can pay for Medicare then others can also pay. This would make health care premiums go down more.
Thanks for your postings.
Cha
(318,967 posts)Cha
(318,967 posts)the fact that DU is offering this Avatar, ProSense,
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ProSense
(116,464 posts)I found out via this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023782551
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)health coverage, will reverberate into greater abilities for lower and middle level employees to bargain or change jobs.
That's a reason- one BIG reason- they've been so desperate to stop it.